BYD Seal tips, tricks and help

[Gweiloman]

54 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Found this from:

https://www.thaiautonews.net/byd-offers-customer-compensation-package/?amp=1

 

“Customers who meet the following criteria will receive free charging at 1,200 REVERSHARGER outlets nationwide from August 1, 2024 to January 3, 2025.

Dolphin customers who purchased, received the vehicle and obtained tax forms from July 7 to December 31, 2023

Atto 3 customers who purchased, received the vehicle and obtained tax forms from November 1 to December 31, 2023

Seal customers who purchased, received the vehicle and obtained tax forms from September 28 to December 31, 2023

Meanwhile, Dolphin, Atto 3 and Seal customers who purchased, received the vehicle and obtained tax forms from January 1, 2024 to July 4, 2024 will get free charging from August 1 to September 30, 2024 and Bt4 per unit from October 1, 2024 to January 3, 2025.

For Dolphin, Atto 3 and Seal customers who purchased, received the vehicle and obtained tax forms from July 5, 2024 to August 31, 2024 will be offered Bt4 charging cost per unit from August 1, 2024 to January 3, 2025. “
 

I was kinda hoping that after Sept 30 th the demand for the free chargers would be heavily reduced but maybe not !!

Yes, i have converted to the “ i want the free stuff and i want it now !! “ group, after adding another 53 kw for zero baht today .

2 new chargers were recently added in CM, in BYD’s flagship showroom. This means a total of 8 chargers during off peak hours. Another 2 might potentially be coming online soon in another new BYD showroom on the 700 year road. That’s 3 BYD showrooms in CM alone and yet, some think that there’s no demand for EVs.

 

It’s easy to get addicted to the free charging, especially when you can see the real savings. My home consumption , net of solar, fell to under 200 units last month, saving me 60% of my regular electric bill. I haven’t even touched my wall charger for my Haval as I can also charge it from my Dolphin.
 

It’s actually not such a bore, waiting to charge. I noticed that most are sitting in their cars, playing with their phones or watching a movie on their tablets, all the while sitting in air conditioned comfort. The former, they would likely be doing at home anyway. The latter (ac on) maybe not everyone or all the time. I even saw a youngish couple actually sitting on some camping chairs and having some snacks and drinks while waiting for their Atto 3 to charge.
 

I can imagine a scenario in North Thailand during the winter months when the weather is extremely pleasant whereby BYD owners will gather round eating moogata on electric grills powered by their cars while waiting their turn to charge lol. Won’t that be a laugh.

[Andrew Dwyer]

Here in Ayutthaya the downtown branch ( 4km ) only just opened and has no chargers. 
The other Ayutthaya showroom (18 km ), where I bought the car and charged today .

Bangchak pump ( 4 km ) is off peak free charging but there’s another Bangchak (20 km ) that is free 24 hrs.

 

One of our most regular trips is a 210 km ( each way ) trip due north to the mil’s and i have the choice of 3 showrooms + a few off peak Bangchaks.

Also a couple of showrooms that only offer the free stuff off peak.

 

Is it me or are the charging cables just the bare minimal length or are the painted parking bays just not very well planned ?

Today i reversed in ( near the back on a Seal ) and it was okay, only just, for length but the Dolphin, who pulled in the other bay, couldn’t reach and had to park half and half.

At my previous showroom charge I had to park 90° to the already charging car.

 

Can sort of understand at generic chargers but these were both BYD locations !

[Pib]

1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:

2 new chargers were recently added in CM, in BYD’s flagship showroom. This means a total of 8 chargers during off peak hours. Another 2 might potentially be coming online soon in another new BYD showroom on the 700 year road. That’s 3 BYD showrooms in CM alone and yet, some think that there’s no demand for EVs.

 

Two BYD Dealerships/showrooms within a 10 minute drive of my western Bangkok residence have had DC & AC charging stations installed and ready to go for around a year now but the chargers still can't be used because the dealerships are still waiting for MEA (i.e., the electric company for the Bangkok area) to provide power to the chargers.   

[Andrew Dwyer]

11 minutes ago, Pib said:

Two BYD Dealerships/showrooms within a 10 minute drive of my western Bangkok residence have had DC & AC charging stations installed and ready to go for around a year now but the chargers still can't be used because the dealerships are still waiting for MEA (i.e., the electric company for the Bangkok area) to provide power to the chargers.   

They will probably wait until the free charging period is finished now !

[khunphil]

16 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

2 new chargers were recently added in CM, in BYD’s flagship showroom. This means a total of 8 chargers during off peak hours. Another 2 might potentially be coming online soon in another new BYD showroom on the 700 year road. That’s 3 BYD showrooms in CM alone and yet, some think that there’s no demand for EVs.

It’s easy to get addicted to the free charging, especially when you can see the real savings.

Sorry, new to this thread but is it only BYD who offers free charging ? MG and GWM no ?

[JBChiangRai]

3 minutes ago, khunphil said:

Sorry, new to this thread but is it only BYD who offers free charging ? MG and GWM no ?

 

Only BYD and getting a free charger is not easy, there's usually a queue

[motdaeng]

14 minutes ago, khunphil said:

Sorry, new to this thread but is it only BYD who offers free charging ? MG and GWM no ?

 

byd offered free charging for a reason: the company recently cut prices significantly on some models, and customers who had purchased their cars at higher prices were unhappy and complained. in response, byd provided free charging for a limited time as a form of compensation ...

[Pib]

Yeah...usually a queue at most of the ReverSharger Red Pin chargers....OR there is no red pin chargers in your typical drive area...OR some of the red pin chargers which use to be operational have went in-operational and been in-operational for weeks.  

 

Being able to get some free electrons under the ongoing BYD charging promotion is a "throw if the dice" unless you want to set in a queue for what could be a lengthy time assuming you have access to a red pin charger. 

 

But hey,  the BYD promotion is better than a kick in the pants.  I've had 11 free charging sessions from early Aug thru 3 Sep with 10 of 11 sessions occurring  by 24 Aug as finding an operational red pin charger or one without one or more vehicles in the queue  has become very difficult over the last 10 days or so based on where I drive/live here in the western Bangkok greater metro area.  I don't do queues of more than 10-15 minutes...unless the charger is immediately (or almost) available when I happen to drive by it I will not use it....instead, I just fill-up with electrons from my home wall charger.

 

[mistral53]

On 9/5/2024 at 9:17 AM, Bandersnatch said:

 

I will post any quotes I get, but as my wife is under 30 I have to pay quite a premium to have her as a named driver 😳

How does this look?

Not many details - but it's an interesting comp

What is surprising is that the performance owners really get the short end of the stick...... 1,2 MTHB vs 0.9 and 1.1 MTHB residual sucks!

 

 

Edited September 6 by mistral53

[Andrew Dwyer]

On 9/6/2024 at 11:35 AM, Pib said:

Yeah...usually a queue at most of the ReverSharger Red Pin chargers....OR there is no red pin chargers in your typical drive area...OR some of the red pin chargers which use to be operational have went in-operational and been in-operational for weeks.  

 

Being able to get some free electrons under the ongoing BYD charging promotion is a "throw if the dice" unless you want to set in a queue for what could be a lengthy time assuming you have access to a red pin charger. 

 

But hey,  the BYD promotion is better than a kick in the pants.  I've had 11 free charging sessions from early Aug thru 3 Sep with 10 of 11 sessions occurring  by 24 Aug as finding an operational red pin charger or one without one or more vehicles in the queue  has become very difficult over the last 10 days or so based on where I drive/live here in the western Bangkok greater metro area.  I don't do queues of more than 10-15 minutes...unless the charger is immediately (or almost) available when I happen to drive by it I will not use it....instead, I just fill-up with electrons from my home wall charger.

 

Have been monitoring the movement at the free chargers nearest to me, clicking on the red dots on the app several times during the day to see which has most availability. ( okay not so scientific but has given me a reasonable grasp on the situation ).

Of the two nearest options with 24 hours free charging:

The BYD locations seem to be the busiest while the Bangchak pump is available frequently.

Checking out the Bangchak pump on Google Maps I get a popular time bar chart for every hour for the week. From 9am to noon being the busiest time of the day and even more so on Sat/Sun.

Of course his info may be based on the activity at the actual pumps ( states: based on historical visits ) but i will give it a try.

Mentally booking a visit to this pump when my % gets to 40 or less, hopefully around 3pm on Thursday or Friday.

Already noticed some interesting temples nearby to appease the little lady.

[mistral53]

Went for another Sunday morning no-cost refill - one pretty amazing observation is the impressive charging speed close to the full mark (Compared to the hyped Tesla M3 LR charging curve that sees 45 kW the last time at 80%)

[marino28]

Any idea when the new BYD Seal will arrive in Thailand? In China, it is already on sale with 800V architecture and a price cut compared to the previous Seal.

[motdaeng]

2 hours ago, marino28 said:

Any idea when the new BYD Seal will arrive in Thailand? In China, it is already on sale with 800V architecture and a price cut compared to the previous Seal.

 

that's a good question, hard to say. i estimate the byd seal 2025 will be seen at the earliest at the motor show in march 2025 in thailand ...

 

hong kong also has left-hand traffic, and the first advertisements for the byd sea lion 07 are currently running. sales for this car is likely to start soon. as for the byd seal 2025, there’s no sign of it in hong kong yet ...  i do believe that hong kong will sell new byd models before thailand ...

[motdaeng]

some of you might not be familiar with the byd sea lion 07 ... the car is on sell in china for about 2 months already ... and test running in thailand (bangkok area) for about 3 months  

 

 

https://carnewschina.com/2024/06/29/sunday-china-drive-byd-sea-lion-07-with-latest-e-platform-3-0-evo-to-rival-model-y-globally/

 

 

Edited September 22 by motdaeng
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[JBChiangRai]

25 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

some of you might not be familiar with the byd sea lion 07 ... the car is on sell in china for about 2 months already ... and test running in thailand (bangkok area) for about 3 months  

 

 

https://carnewschina.com/2024/06/29/sunday-china-drive-byd-sea-lion-07-with-latest-e-platform-3-0-evo-to-rival-model-y-globally/

 

 

There is one in my local BYD Chiang Rai showroom.

[JBChiangRai]

I am in Chiang Mai for a long weekend.

 

I charged up at the Bangchak station with two Rêver  chargers, I had to wait 35 minutes to get a free charger, but at least my journey from Chiang Rai to Chiang Mai was free and I watched Netflix in the car whilst I was waiting

Edited September 22 by JBChiangRai
Netflix

[motdaeng]

15 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

There is one in my local BYD Chiang Rai showroom.

 

that would be surprising me (but i'm open to it) ...

just to clarify, i'm talking about the sea lion 07, not the sea lion 6 (phev) ... 

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

that would be surprising me (but i'm open to it) ...

just to clarify, i'm talking about the sea lion 07, not the sea lion 6 (phev) ... 

 
I can’t be sure which model it is, but when you look at it from the front it does have whiskers.

 

To be actually clear, it was parked outside in the test drive area.

[motdaeng]

byd sea  lion 07 right-hand drive starting for sale (28.09.2024) in Hong Kong

 

-  with deliveries to hong kong customers in february next year ...  

-  byd sea  lion 07, ready for sale in thailand in mid-october ... (?)

- dc charging 150 kw, ac charging 11 kw

- awd performance has 530 horsepower and 690 Nm of torque  

- from 0-100 kilometers in 4.5 seconds, top speed of 225 kilometers per hour

- ....

 

https://car2day.com/byd-sealion-7-spec-pricing-officially-hongkong/

 

[JBChiangRai]

31 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

byd sea  lion 07 right-hand drive starting for sale (28.09.2024) in Hong Kong

 

-  with deliveries to hong kong customers in february next year ...  

-  byd sea  lion 07, ready for sale in thailand in mid-october ... (?)

- dc charging 150 kw, ac charging 11 kw

- awd performance has 530 horsepower and 690 Nm of torque  

- from 0-100 kilometers in 4.5 seconds, top speed of 225 kilometers per hour

- ....

 

https://car2day.com/byd-sealion-7-spec-pricing-officially-hongkong/

 

I think the wheels are nicer on this than they are on the seal

[mistral53]

21 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I think the wheels are nicer on this than they are on the seal

And it appears with decent tire dimensions compared to the Seal: (from the quoted link)

 

'sporty with large alloy wheels 20-inch tires 245/45R20 from the camp, MICHELIN and 19-inch select tire size 235/50R19 and 255/45R19'

 

[marino28]

There is a new special promotion for Byd Seal limited to 888 units . 
 

maybe someone is interested

Edited October 2 by marino28

[JBChiangRai]

On 10/1/2024 at 8:46 AM, mistral53 said:

And it appears with decent tire dimensions compared to the Seal: (from the quoted link)

 

'sporty with large alloy wheels 20-inch tires 245/45R20 from the camp, MICHELIN and 19-inch select tire size 235/50R19 and 255/45R19'

 

I have aftermarket wheels and I think they are 1 inch wider than the standard wheels (8 inches) but they have the standard tires on, I will be upgrading the tires two sizes wider when they need replacing. Standard tires on wider wheels gets rid of the tract issue from standing starts on dry, clean roads.

[JBChiangRai]

2 hours ago, marino28 said:

There is a new special promotion for Byd Seal limited to 888 units . 
 

maybe someone is interested

What is the promotion?

[Andrew Dwyer]

8 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

What is the promotion?

 

I think it is about part exchange an old car for a Seal and get up to 240k discount, but am not sure.

Edited October 2 by Andrew Dwyer

[JBChiangRai]

Maybe they are saying you will get 240,000 baht trade-in allowance? We get promotions like this in the UK quite often and people buy wrecks (MOT failures) to trade in.

[motdaeng]

41 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 .... Maybe they are saying you will get 240,000 baht trade-in allowance? ...

 

i think, i would go for it, but only for the new byd seal performance 2025,

even if i had to wait a few months ... i would have two  cars to trade in 

 

typo

Edited October 2 by motdaeng

[Pib]

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

 

I think it is about part exchange an old car for a Seal and get up to 240k discount, but am not sure.

 

To me the promotion is just saying the standard free stuff  like warranties, 1st year insurance, charger, roadside assistance, carpets, etc)., BYD provides with each Seal purchase (and most BYD electric cars) is worth Bt240K.

[Andrew Dwyer]

9 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

To me the promotion is just saying the standard free stuff  like warranties, 1st year insurance, charger, roadside assistance, carpets, etc)., BYD provides with each Seal purchase (and most BYD electric cars) is worth Bt240K.

That is what i initially thought but the attached comments ( from the FB post i got this from ) all talk about part exchange, some asking “ if i don’t have a car to exchange can i still get the deal “ ?

It is a bit vague and as usual translating from Thai muddies the water even more !!

[JBChiangRai]

I think there is a translation error and what they are saying is that the minimum value of your trade-in will be 240,000 baht