Donald Trump clashes repeatedly with judge in heated New York testimony

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Donald Trump repeatedly clashed with a judge and defended his family's business as he testified in a civil fraud trial in New York.

During almost four hours on the witness stand, the former president disputed claims that he deceived banks and aired broad grievances with the case.

The judge has already ruled the Trump Organization committed fraud and this trial will determine the penalties.

Prosecutors are seeking a $250m (£202m) fine and severe business restrictions.

During his highly anticipated appearance at the Manhattan federal courthouse on Monday, Mr Trump, 77, was asked about the value of various properties including his Florida estate Mar-a-Lago, Trump Tower in New York and his golf course in Scotland.

These properties are among several that prosecutors say were intentionally overvalued in company statements in order to secure better loans and insurance policies.

 

In his testimony, Mr Trump, who is the current frontrunner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, stood by the valuations as prosecutors quizzed him on how they were reached and the financial statements at the centre of the trial.

"I'm worth billions of dollars more than the financial statements," Mr Trump said, before describing the valuations as "very conservative."

He said the property values were bolstered by his personal brand, something he said was never factored into financial statements.

"I can look at buildings and tell you what they're worth," he said in another testy exchange.

 

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The lawsuit was brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James, who accuses Mr Trump, along with his sons Eric and Donald Jr and other Trump Organization executives, of deliberately inflating company assets for years. All deny wrongdoing.

 

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[Chomper Higgot]

Civil case rule #1.

 

If you don’t defend you lose.

 

Trump running his mouth on the stand and actually admitting to the core chargers against him is a long way from any kind of defense.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/bingo-trump-admits-intent-induce-213030399.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnRoLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACrU2M-LihC2P1ZoJHY5NkE1Joxfx0V1YkqaHx_ZjcpgSvF32w1ITOfXZaRZGwN0myphJJ-M70SYu29QO6hod-9SWVdH-n6StYwp_ZehYL4E3YgUVz-gpEkbeJvg1tkMZ60QR-e3hY81Qg24H6sOnc-g-Uvea88MPqmUnCdwSBsP

[Tug]

And the clown show continues anyone else mouthing off the way trump does would be frogmarched straight to the penitentiary.as usual he’s trying to play victim and swing the rubes into believing him quite frankly it’s humiliating 

[Danderman123]

Trump's mouth will cost him dearly.

 

He is an idiot.

 

Eric did better on the stand.

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump's mouth will cost him dearly.

 

He is an idiot.

 

Eric did better on the stand.

Not only will Trump’s mouth cost him dearly, he’s putting Ivanka in a corner when she takes the stand.

 

There are only so many times she can whisper squeakily ‘I don’t recall’ and since she’s immune from prosecution she can’t cite the 5th.

 

Does she give Daddy up or does she run the gauntlet on contempt of court?

 

And once again a reminder:

 

$250,000,000 is the starting price.

 

[Danderman123]

How long until the Trump cultists post: "why is bank fraud illegal?"

 

You know they want to.

[Danderman123]

This topic provides an opportunity for a Trump fan to describe the defense that Trump laid out on the stand.

 

Oh, wait.

 

Trump just ranted and insulted the judge and prosecutors? How does that win the case for him?

 

 

Edited November 7, 2023 by Danderman123

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

This topic provides an opportunity for a Trump fan to describe the defense that Trump laid out on the stand.

 

Oh, wait.

 

Trump just ranted and insulted the judge and prosecutors? How does that win the case for him?

 

 

Didn't he already "lose" the case and this is only to decide how much to fine him?

I think he expects to get screwed over and is just using the opportunity to to stick it to the judge and his enemies out there.

[Neeranam]

3 hours ago, Tug said:

And the clown show continues anyone else mouthing off the way trump does would be frogmarched straight to the penitentiary.as usual he’s trying to play victim and swing the rubes into believing him quite frankly it’s humiliating 

You have shown your immediate attacks on Trump for some time now -  enough of it. 

[Danderman123]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Didn't he already "lose" the case and this is only to decide how much to fine him?

I think he expects to get screwed over and is just using the opportunity to to stick it to the judge and his enemies out there.

He lost one point in the summary judgment, but there are other points under legal consideration.

 

These will add up to form the basis of the amounts that Trump will lose.

[Danderman123]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Didn't he already "lose" the case and this is only to decide how much to fine him?

I think he expects to get screwed over and is just using the opportunity to to stick it to the judge and his enemies out there.

When he engaged in massive fraud, he left himself open to losing big money.

 

Or are you so deep down the rabbit hole that you don't believe that Trump committed asset valuation fraud?

[Danderman123]

Concerning Trump fraud:

 

Back in the day, in lovely Baja California, the Trump Organization advertised a condo development for sale to gullible types. So, people pre-paid for condos, Trump took the money and ran  and abandoned the project.

 

Typical Trump.

[Danderman123]

One of the oddities of this board is that there is an extended time lag between a Trump event happening, then FOX News coming up with talking points, and then Trump fans seeing the talking points the next morning.

 

So, the Trump fans are clearly trying to digest the bullsh*t that FOX produces to explain Trump's ranting in court yesterday.

 

It's a big time saver for me, as I don't have to watch FOX - some Trump fans very accurately regurgitate the FOX talking points.

 

On the other hand, its kind of creepy, a huge block of people who follow propaganda Soviet-style, and who have few original thoughts on these issues.

 

[Georgealbert]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

When he engaged in massive fraud, he left himself open to losing big money.

 

Or are you so deep down the rabbit hole that you don't believe that Trump committed asset valuation fraud?

A rabbit hole is not deep enough for this poster(the kiwi beachlover). He is just a vast echo chamber as he puts everyone on ignore, when you call him out on facts. 

Edited November 7, 2023 by Georgealbert
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[Tug]

7 hours ago, Neeranam said:

You have shown your immediate attacks on Trump for some time now -  enough of it. 

Tell you what when trump stops trying to kill American democracy stops breaking the law stops bilking people stops insulting pows and vets starts telling the truth I will stop calling him out.until then send him some money he’s the brokest billionaire ever,come on show him some ❤️ lmao 😜 

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Lawrence O’Donnell Reveals The 1 Word From Trump That ‘Destroyed’ His Defense

Because Donald Trump is one of the very stupidest people to be charged with business fraud, and because his demonstrably ineffectual lawyers obviously do not have the skills to prepare their client for even the simplest and most obvious questions, Donald Trump incriminated himself and his children with the only one-word answer that he gave all day,” O’Donell said on Monday night.

The word came in response to a question about who in the Trump Organization was responsible for preventing and detecting fraud.

“Everybody,” Trump said.

https://news.yahoo.com/lawrence-o-donnell-reveals-1-071044456.html

[Danderman123]

if you ask me did I steal a cookie from the cookie jar, and I tell you you're deranged and a fraud, and this whole process is a sham and a witch hunt, you can logically conclude that I stole the cookie from the cookie jar.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Danderman123

[candide]

Trump have tried to piss-off the judge in order to provoke a reaction he may be able to use in appeal. The judge is obviously too smart for that.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 11/7/2023 at 5:57 PM, Danderman123 said:

When he engaged in massive fraud, he left himself open to losing big money.

 

Or are you so deep down the rabbit hole that you don't believe that Trump committed asset valuation fraud?

Other than his potential to be POTUS or not, the rest of Trump's life is of zero concern to me.

If he did or did not commit asset valuation fraud is something for Americans to talk about, not myself. Frankly I really don't care what he does in his business life.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 11/7/2023 at 8:52 PM, Danderman123 said:

On the other hand, its kind of creepy, a huge block of people who follow propaganda Soviet-style, and who have few original thoughts on these issues.

I guess you are talking about people that actually believe a man that is unable to discern the difference between live and dead people, and can barely stand up is capable of being POTUS.

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I guess you are talking about people that actually believe a man that.... can barely stand up is capable of being POTUS.

Yet Franklin D Roosevelt, who led the US through four terms including the Depression and WWII was a cripple, mainly confined to a wheelchair.

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by LosLobo

[Skipalongcassidy]

13 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Yet Franklin D Roosevelt, who led the US through four terms including the Depression and WWII was a cripple, mainly confined to a wheelchair.

 

There were a whole bunch of Japanese Americans who didn't enjoy his internment camps... some would even say he was mentally crippled as well

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17 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

There were a whole bunch of Japanese Americans who didn't enjoy his internment camps... some would even say he was mentally crippled as well

One way to introduce a cheap shot in a way to avoid taking accountability for it is to introduce a proposition with these words: "some would even say".

Who exactly are the "some"?

[2baht]

On 11/7/2023 at 11:48 AM, Neeranam said:

You have shown your immediate attacks on Trump for some time now -  enough of it. 

 

     Never enough! The man is a fool!

[LosLobo]

36 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

There were a whole bunch of Japanese Americans who didn't enjoy his internment camps... some would even say he was mentally crippled as well

Possibly, you are getting your President Roosevelts mixed up!

Franklin D Roosevelt was crippled by polio as a child.

 

Theodore Roosevelt who was not in a wheelchair, is said to have suffered from bi-polar and depression most of his life.

 

As previously stated, facts don't seem to be your friend.

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by LosLobo

[Skipalongcassidy]

35 minutes ago, placeholder said:

One way to introduce a cheap shot in a way to avoid taking accountability for it is to introduce a proposition with these words: "some would even say".

Who exactly are the "some"?

Well, for starters... the Japanese friends that I had when I lived in Idaho near one of the internment camps...

[Skipalongcassidy]

31 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Possibly, you are getting your President Roosevelts mixed up!

Franklin D Roosevelt was crippled by polio as a child.

 

Theodore Roosevelt who was not in a wheelchair, is said to have suffered from bi-polar and depression most of his life.

 

As previously stated, facts don't seem to be your friend.

 

You have failed your history lesson... go back and read the posts and try to pay attention... then if you are honest you will apologize for your error.

[LosLobo]

6 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

You have failed your history lesson... go back and read the posts and try to pay attention... then if you are honest you will apologize for your error.

Please do tell, if I have made an error, and no one is perfect, I will openly admit it and apologise, I am that kind of guy.

[Skipalongcassidy]

30 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Please do tell, if I have made an error, and no one is perfect, I will openly admit it and apologise, I am that kind of guy.

Then where is your apology... I do not have my Roosevelts mixed up as you implied... "As previously stated, facts don't seem to be your friend." We were talking about Franklin D Roosevelt before you opined.

[LosLobo]

28 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Then where is your apology... I do not have my Roosevelts mixed up as you implied... "As previously stated, facts don't seem to be your friend." We were talking about Franklin D Roosevelt before you opined.

I did say 'possibly you are getting your President Roosevelts mixed up' and this was based on evidence of Theodore Roosevelt being bipolar and my failure to find any to support your claim.

 

Theodore & the Roosevelt Bipolar Inheritance - International Bipolar Foundation (ibpf.org)
 

Perhaps you can humour me and provide your evidence that Franklin Roosevelt was 'mentally crippled'?

 

As you know that on this forum facts need to be supported with evidence

And yes, I did say 'facts don't seem to be your friend' which was evident based on your previous posts and lack of evidence on this post.