Popular Post webfact Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 National—On December 6th, 2023, Ms. Traisulee Traisanakul, the Secretary to the Thai Minister of the Interior, publicly revealed policies for preventing and solving problems of forest fires, smog, and PM 2.5 smoke proposed by Mr. Anutin Charnvirakul, the Thai Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior, to provincial governors. During the cold drought season each year, Thailand has an ongoing problem of air pollution exceeding standards in many areas, especially in 17 provinces in the North and Bangkok areas. Air pollution such as wildfires, smog, and PM 2.5 smoke, are due to both natural and human-made causes that cumulate dust particles in high density and affect the environment and the health of people. Therefore, Anutin gave instructions to the Provincial Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Directorate to make use of technology to notify the public thoroughly and efficiently on air pollution problems. By Kittisak Phalaharn Full story: THE PHUKET EXPRESS 2023-12-07 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 there isn't a single thing mentioned here that hasn't been said before. the lip service is quite pathetic and boring now. this is one of the biggest health issues in thailand. period. 3 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 "Comprehensive Measures" So we can all breathe - cough - a bit - hack, easier? This government just bounces from controversy to corruption, to problem after problem, with little more than some flapping of the gums. Less talking, more committees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 What needs to be done ,is when any Arsonists are caught they need to be sentenced to a say a 5 year prison term ,that is the only deterrent that will work , and have police, rangers and any volunteers up in the hills ,camping out if necessary,to catch them Let the people that set these fires know that you are really serious about this ,as it affects peoples health,the tourist industry , talk is not working ,get serious ,get people on the ground ,deploy drones, have road blocks on the roads up in the hills , will this happen, ? going on the last how many years of Government's response , I am not holding my breath, but soon may have too. regards worgeordie soon to be breathless in Chiang Mai 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 Only been mentioned a few times but fining the landowners massive amounts of money would have an immediate effect. The forests would need a real monitoring as mentioned in a previous post. The ongoing problem is that most of the landowners are those making the rules and nobody really cares anyway it's simply lip service as it is every year. Don't expect anything to change anytime soon. Currently highest AQI in Chiang Mai city is an unhealthy 169, and it's only December! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegum Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 How about burning rice fields? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moonlover Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, bubblegum said: How about burning rice fields? From the full article: 'Instead of burning agricultural waste, Anutin proposed a campaign to utilize them in value-added, carbon-free, processing, such as using microorganisms for decomposition and plowing'. I live surrounded by farmland up here in the north east and there is no doubt that there has a big reduction in the amount of field burning over the last 6 years that I've lived here. Farming is becoming more mechanized and using a combine harvester and a plow is the standard procedure now, even on small plots. Field burning is now discouraged by the community, so progress is being made. I walk in the countryside everyday, so I've seen this transformation first hand and I get to breath good clean air just about every day of the year. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 Noncens especially now during dry season, burning is the peered method of weed control. Until this attitude changes nothing will change. Living here in Khon Kaen I can post a picture of someone burning stuff every day , I wonder how many of those the authorities have fined: I am willing to guess it's a number between zero and zero . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 Nothing will be done, as Anutin is a terrible leader, very incapable, and very unwilling to take industry head-on and deal with any of the issues plaguing this nation. He is totally and completely compromised. The public urges government assistance in tackling air pollution. If you goons were not bought and paid for by big agra, the burning would stop. It is your compromised nature and your unwillingness to put up a good fight, that is the major cause of the air apocalypse we are facing. People are dying and suffering in hospitals on your watch, and their blood is on your hands. You are cowards. You are incompetents. You deserve to be voted out with a vengeance. You all deserve prison or exile. How Chiang Mai became the world’s most polluted city- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/12/how-chiang-mai-became-the-worlds-most-polluted-city At least one NGO is calling it what it is. Field burning, not forest fires is the main cause of bad air here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Moonlover said: I live surrounded by farmland up here in the north east and there is no doubt that there has a big reduction in the amount of field burning over the last 6 years that I've lived here. Farming is becoming more mechanized and using a combine harvester and a plow is the standard procedure now, even on small plots. Same here in south Surin. Here on the outskirts of Prasat I look out over surrounding rice paddies. No fires, just combined harvesters doing their annual job and tractors turning over the soil later to finish off. All done now for this year. So why is it so different in the Deep North? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 hours ago, webfact said: Therefore, Anutin gave instructions to the Provincial Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Directorate to make use of technology to notify the public thoroughly and efficiently on air pollution problems. So no solution then? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, mfd101 said: Same here in south Surin. Here on the outskirts of Prasat I look out over surrounding rice paddies. No fires, just combined harvesters doing their annual job and tractors turning over the soil later to finish off. All done now for this year. So why is it so different in the Deep North? I believe the problem up north is more one of forest fires and topography isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 25 years have been coming to Thailand and living/staying in and around Chiangmai and Lamphun. Every year they claim it’s going to be sorted and every year without fail they fail miserably . Talk is cheap and now word is out in the UK that avoid Chiangmai at this time of year particularly . Amazing Thailand ….. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 15 hours ago, Moonlover said: I believe the problem up north is more one of forest fires and topography isn't it? Around Chiang Mai generally everything that can be burnt gets burnt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 8:30 AM, webfact said: revealed policies for preventing and solving problems of forest fires, smog, and PM 2.5 smoke What policies ? That is the only interesting part in this article , and it is not even mentioned . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I'll stick it out in Bangkok for this winter. About 3 weeks ago I had a kind of near-death experience with a bacterial infection in my lower right lung leading to hospitalization for pneumonia, so for that reason and others I've booked a flight for the beginning of February and will stay out for at least three months, maybe longer. I'll be having a serious discussion with my US doctors about my condition, any lingering damage, and the wisdom of continuing to live in the air of LOS (as opposed to the Bay Area, where today the aqi is around 20). Luckily I own no property and have no children here, and am on a month-to-month rental agreement. Good luck everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 8:51 AM, bamnutsak said: This government just bounces from controversy to corruption, to problem after problem, with little more than some flapping of the gums. this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunjake Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 It is getting worse each year, not better. Talk is cheap here. This all stems to lack of backbone and fear to stand up. Its the same reason why Pita was sidelined. No one has the balls to organize and do something. These people are afraid to standup for themselves and that will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtam Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Bangkok today @ 11.38...AQI 159. AQI 173 earlier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroubleandGrumpy Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 9:01 AM, worgeordie said: What needs to be done ,is when any Arsonists are caught they need to be sentenced to a say a 5 year prison term ,that is the only deterrent that will work , and have police, rangers and any volunteers up in the hills ,camping out if necessary,to catch them Let the people that set these fires know that you are really serious about this ,as it affects peoples health,the tourist industry , talk is not working ,get serious ,get people on the ground ,deploy drones, have road blocks on the roads up in the hills , will this happen, ? going on the last how many years of Government's response , I am not holding my breath, but soon may have too. regards worgeordie soon to be breathless in Chiang Mai We lived in Chaing Mai for a few years - it was horrendous some days - and worse in Chiang Rai. The forest burners after those mushrooms do not start their fires until after the local authorities have gone home. They have been doing this for decades and it aint gonna stop easily - they make a lot of money selling those mushrooms. Likewise, the corn farmers do the same - Thais are very good at breaking the laws and not getting caught. But the bigger problem is not in Thailand, it is the burning done in Myanmar, Loas and Cambodia. The predominant winds from the East and North at that time of year, blow their smoke into Thailand. Those countries dont take any actions to stop their farmers and mushroom hunters burning - and much of the smoke ends up in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motdaeng Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: But the bigger problem the other problem is not in Thailand, it is the burning done in Myanmar, Loas and Cambodia. thailand needs to address illegal burning within its borders before pointing fingers at other countries. however, it is evident that thailand is unable to effectively halt these illegal burning activities ... just look back the last few years ... it got worse! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtam Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Bangkok today @11.30 AQI 153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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