This is why I don't care for Australia

[georgegeorgia]

Just listening to talk back radio this morning, apparently and I haven't bothered looking for a news link,but apparently they the Australian government have stopped some Australia party in the UK on Australia Day that has been going on for decades because of PC 

 

This is why I want to get out of Australia and I don't care anymore.

 

I know it's offensive on Australia Day to carry the Aussie flag and I know that some government departments won't be flying it not encourage their employees to wear it 

 

I just couldn't careless anymore 

 

There was a young Greens politician on ABC Radio this morning blaming the baby boomers for the problem Australia is in , ageism is acceptable in Australia 

Edited December 10, 2023 by georgegeorgia

[sirineou]

2 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I just couldn't careless anymore 

You care enough to start a thread!

[Fat is a type of crazy]

 

There are some things that concern me on the political correctness thing but this is not one of them. I think there's a reasonable argument to say that the date of Australia day did bring terrible things, and some good things to, to the indigenous population. It's not drawing a long bow to see why people might say a different day is better and may feel a flag has too strong a link with the UK. 

In terms of blaming baby boomers how many posts do you see here about the so called lazy indulgent young so it's the normal thing to talk badly about different generations. I don't blame young people wanting to blame someone for the high cost of everything especially property when wages keep going up below inflation.

 You get a say too because it is one of the most democratic countries in the world. 

There's a lot of reasons to be proud of and care about Australia so keep the good things in mind too. You posted recently about getting the age pension in the future- I don't get a cracker - but look at it in Thailand. Many examples that give us a good life so retiring in Thailand is an option. 

Edited December 11, 2023 by Fat is a type of crazy

[ezzra]

Australia is not what it used to be, since the labour government brought in nearly a million multi national of jetsam and flotsam, without prior planing for housing and social support, many are of poor, uneducated countries and background just so to serve and fill work positions that Aussies will not do any longer, and they're everywhere, ( i have been 2 weeks in a private Melbourne hospital and 95% of the staff, from cleaners to doctors were new comers)

The above might sound as elitist, selfish and a racist rant, but many, many Aussies are not happy with what the government doing and handling Australia's affairs for some time now...

[Fat is a type of crazy]

14 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Australia is not what it used to be, since the labour government brought in nearly a million multi national of jetsam and flotsam, without prior planing for housing and social support, many are of poor, uneducated countries and background just so to serve and fill work positions that Aussies will not do any longer, and they're everywhere, ( i have been 2 weeks in a private Melbourne hospital and 95% of the staff, from cleaners to doctors were new comers)

The above might sound as elitist, selfish and a racist rant, but many, many Aussies are not happy with what the government doing and handling Australia's affairs for some time now...

But in your hospital example the fact is they simply don't have staff at the moment to do those jobs and so immigration is a good thing in that regard. But a reason they need more staff is in part the huge increase in population partly due to immigration itself. 

You'll notice they are decreasing immigration numbers. I have no problem with immigration as such and I think it brings many benefits. The financial benefits are likely skewed to the business owners though who get lots of relatively cheap staff and not to the average worker who finds so much more competition for work resulting in lower wage increases, difficulty buying a property, etc.

Edited December 11, 2023 by Fat is a type of crazy

[georgegeorgia]

Unfortunately the Greens   call you a racist before if you spoke against immigration, so I started to support it , it's great as a landlord.

 

I watched between 2005 and 2015 when Australia had low interest rates ,I watched as all the nightclubs and restaurants were packed out and you were called a racist if you were against immigration.

 

I knew the Recession would eventually come back ,I lived they 21% interest rates so I knew ,so I quickly paid my apartments off 

 

Now the interest rates are going up ,rents etc suddenly the immigrant is the enemy .well tough ,now I'm older ,wealthier ,I'm  supporting immigration

The younger Aussies deserved this ,I have no sympathy 

 

I was even thinking about joining the Greens party , more immigration I say 

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by georgegeorgia

[stupidfarang]

14 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Australia is not what it used to be, since the labour government brought in nearly a million multi national of jetsam and flotsam, without prior planing for housing and social support, many are of poor, uneducated countries and background just so to serve and fill work positions that Aussies will not do any longer, and they're everywhere, ( i have been 2 weeks in a private Melbourne hospital and 95% of the staff, from cleaners to doctors were new comers)

The above might sound as elitist, selfish and a racist rant, but many, many Aussies are not happy with what the government doing and handling Australia's affairs for some time now...

Out of interest on the 95% of staff in the hospital were new comers, did they perform their job well, did the doctors and nurses look after you and mend you so you can get back to a normal life? After WW2 there was a mass immigration into Australia, there was a lot of resentment then but immigration made Australia what it is today, a vibrant and dynamic country, a country to be proud of. Now the goverment policys that is another issuse, no matter what country you live in, we all are not happy with how the government runs the country, I do not have the answer, am frustrated by governments like everyone else is, my main thing is to always vote. 

[georgegeorgia]

3 minutes ago, stupidfarang said:

Out of interest on the 95% of staff in the hospital were new comers, did they perform their job well, did the doctors and nurses look after you and mend you so you can get back to a normal life? After WW2 there was a mass immigration into Australia, there was a lot of resentment then but immigration made Australia what it is today, a vibrant and dynamic country, a country to be proud of. Now the goverment policys that is another issuse, no matter what country you live in, we all are not happy with how the government runs the country, I do not have the answer, am frustrated by governments like everyone else is, my main thing is to always vote. 

" A country to be proud of " 🤣🤣

[ezzra]

Most of the time they did well although it was, at times, difficult to understand their English and proper communications while you're being treated in a hospital is paramount, other than that, it was a private hospital where you have to preform well,

Again, there are millions of Aussie workers that are still 'working' from home from Covid times and with no plans to go back to their place of work and this is one of the reasons why you don't see Aussies at work any longer, I, and many others in Australia dearly wish they will soon...

[stupidfarang]

8 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

" A country to be proud of " 🤣🤣

Proud in general terms, maybe should have left that out, yet it is a good country when compared to many other countrys

 

[save the frogs]

Steve Irwin put you guys on the map.

 

The problem with Australia nowadays is that there are not too many real men anymore who can wrestle an alligator.

 

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by save the frogs

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Just listening to talk back radio this morning, apparently and I haven't bothered looking for a news link,but

Let me see if I understand this.

You were listening to your echo chamber and your echo said things you agree with, and did not like what the goverment you don't like did.

How am I doing so far?

 

[Bagwain]

32 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Steve Irwin put you guys on the map.

 

The problem with Australia nowadays is that there are not too many real men anymore who can wrestle an alligator.

 

 

He didn't fair well against the stingray, out of his depth (Pardon the pun)!  I personnally was embarassed by him!

[save the frogs]

23 minutes ago, Bagwain said:

He didn't fair well against the stingray, out of his depth (Pardon the pun)!  I personnally was embarassed by him!

the stingray clip is on youtube i think ... was he courageous or just nuts? 

[daveAustin]

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

There was a young Greens politician on ABC Radio this morning blaming the baby boomers for the problem Australia is in , ageism is acceptable in Australia 

 

They are right. The boomers stole decent living from the younger generations in most western economies. Look at the state of the property markets and silly pensions etc. Huge disparity and it was not all hard work, and yet the young now find themselves paying for their welfare. 

[georgegeorgia]

41 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

 

They are right. The boomers stole decent living from the younger generations in most western economies. Look at the state of the property markets and silly pensions etc. Huge disparity and it was not all hard work, and yet the young now find themselves paying for their welfare. 

They are only paying for the ones who don't have much Super

[4MyEgo]

5 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

You'll notice they are decreasing immigration numbers. I have no problem with immigration as such and I think it brings many benefits. The financial benefits are likely skewed to the business owners though who get lots of relatively cheap staff and not to the average worker who finds so much more competition for work resulting in lower wage increases, difficulty buying a property, etc.

 

They noticed that the increase they proposed backfired and put everyday Ozzie's out on the streets due to property price and rental property increases when they were supposed to be steady or even dropping due to the volley of interest rate rises the Reserve Bank served up.

 

Watch this space, perhaps we will see a drop in both due to the lowering of demand over the next 6 month's, that said, in my opinion, a property price adjustment is well overdue due to the property market being well overheated with current interest rate levels and no real wage increases for over a decade, plus inflation still being up there, as opposed to what one reads in the papers.

[georgegeorgia]

Well now I'm old I don't care if they bring millions of people here to Australia

 

I remember just a few years ago the socialist left students  marching in Melbourne saying ," refugees are welcome here "

 

Same in Newtown Sydney

 

Now these young leftovers have no house to buy

 

😁

I'm not feeling sorry for them , anyone over 40 with no house this is your fault , you made ya bed 

Edited December 11, 2023 by georgegeorgia

[simple1]

The Australian government says it will halve the migration intake within two years in an attempt to fix the country's "broken" immigration system.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-67609963

[Bagwain]

23 hours ago, daveAustin said:

 

They are right. The boomers stole decent living from the younger generations in most western economies. Look at the state of the property markets and silly pensions etc. Huge disparity and it was not all hard work, and yet the young now find themselves paying for their welfare. 

Rubbish. The Australian government took the age pension fund and put in with consolidated revenue. (I think early 60's)

Gov missmanagement of the money is the reason!

Edited December 12, 2023 by Bagwain

[KhunHeineken]

On 12/10/2023 at 11:44 PM, Fat is a type of crazy said:

There's a lot of reasons to be proud of and care about Australia

Can you give a few examples? 

 

What is Australia doing right these days?  I think not much. 

[KhunHeineken]

On 12/10/2023 at 11:53 PM, ezzra said:

since the labour government brought in nearly a million multi national of jetsam and flotsam,

Correct.

 

We took in the wrong immigrants.  That's changed now, as they need to be skilled migrants.  Nothing to do with racism or elitist, it's a fact. 

[KhunHeineken]

On 12/11/2023 at 2:03 AM, daveAustin said:

 

They are right. The boomers stole decent living from the younger generations in most western economies. Look at the state of the property markets and silly pensions etc. Huge disparity and it was not all hard work, and yet the young now find themselves paying for their welfare. 

And who made the laws that allows this to happen????

[KhunHeineken]

On 12/11/2023 at 5:46 AM, 4MyEgo said:

Watch this space, perhaps we will see a drop in both

All most Australians will see is a drop in living standards over the next few years, and beyond. 

 

Successive governments have presided over the decline of Australia on the world stage.  

 

Banana Republic here we come.   

[KhunHeineken]

On 12/11/2023 at 8:01 AM, simple1 said:

The Australian government says it will halve the migration intake within two years in an attempt to fix the country's "broken" immigration system.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-67609963

So who will do the jobs Aussies refuse to do? 

[KhunHeineken]

On 12/12/2023 at 1:34 AM, Bagwain said:

The Australian government took the age pension fund and put in with consolidated revenue.

Where was it before it went into consolidated revenue?  

[MonteD]

On 12/10/2023 at 6:03 PM, daveAustin said:

 

They are right. The boomers stole decent living from the younger generations in most western economies. Look at the state of the property markets and silly pensions etc. Huge disparity and it was not all hard work, and yet the young now find themselves paying for their welfare. 

 

What exactly did the boomers steal? You are sounding like a victim Dave. I would blame years of poor management by unqualified politicians and government officials.

[KhunHeineken]

6 minutes ago, MonteD said:

 

What exactly did the boomers steal? You are sounding like a victim Dave. I would blame years of poor management by unqualified politicians and government officials.

I think the point the member was making is the boomers were allowed to "steal" due to government policies. 

[still kicking]

On 12/11/2023 at 7:33 AM, sirineou said:

You care enough to start a thread!

I wasn't born in OZ but lived there since 1973 apart from a number of years in LOS. I am a Baby Boomer. I must reject all this nonsense today's generation have to pay for us. I have been in Business for 25 years paid taxes through my nose, paid interest of 17.5% had a decent superannuation which I lost moving to LOS. No complains living on a pension now, still travel twice a year to Thailand where I don't pay for accommodation. Married to a Thai woman for 20 years who also lives with me in OZ and is a nurse. I got no complains about OZ.

[KhunHeineken]

22 minutes ago, still kicking said:

I am a Baby Boomer. I must reject all this nonsense today's generation have to pay for us.

I would be interested in your comment about how a 19 year old starting out their career and paying income tax is not supporting a baby boomer on their 5th or 6th, or more, negatively geared property.