save the frogs Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 https://biologicalsciences.uchicago.edu/news/tva-nutrient-cancer-immunity#:~:text=Trans-vaccenic acid (TVA)%2C a long-chain,from the University of Chicago. Nutrient found in beef and dairy improves immune response to cancer Scientists at UChicago discover that trans-vaccenic acid (TVA), a fatty acid found in beef, lamb, and dairy products, improves the ability of immune cells to fight tumors. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ezzra Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) I would't put any stock in any of the so called 'finding' i have read many hundreds of studies, experiments and finding by the most prestigious universities in the world, that many of them contradict themselves and others, one day you read that this substance is good for you, days, weeks later you read the opposite... Quote Edited December 29, 2023 by ezzra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseThailand Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) What about a long-known connection between red meat and colon cancer? Edited December 29, 2023 by JoseThailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseThailand Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/red-meat-and-colon-cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ravip Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, ezzra said: I would't put any stock in any of the so called 'finding' i have read many hundreds of studies, experiments and finding by the most prestigious universities in the world, that many of them contradict themselves and others, one day you read that this substance is good for you, days, weeks later you read the opposite... Absolutely right! Studies... studies... who knows what is right or wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, JoseThailand said: What about a long-known connection between red meat and colon cancer? That's why I'm here. To shatter MYTHS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseThailand Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, save the frogs said: That's why I'm here. To shatter MYTHS. You call serious science myths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseThailand Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, ezzra said: I would't put any stock in any of the so called 'finding' i have read many hundreds of studies, experiments and finding by the most prestigious universities in the world, that many of them contradict themselves and others, one day you read that this substance is good for you, days, weeks later you read the opposite... Everyone knows alcohol is bad, tobacco is bad, processed meat is bad. Does any serious research contradict that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE88 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, save the frogs said: That's why I'm here. To shatter MYTHS. Hi frog savior, with this statement here do you want to save cows or humans this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingtlger Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 41 minutes ago, save the frogs said: Nutrient found in beef and dairy improves immune response to cancer Sponsored by the National Cattlemen's Beef Association..... Beef CAUSES cancer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 27 minutes ago, BE88 said: Hi frog savior, with this statement here do you want to save cows or humans this time? unfortunately, cows need to die. but they will go to cow heaven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE88 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, save the frogs said: unfortunately, cows need to die. but they will go to cow heaven? Why do cows have to die don't tell me it's to save the planet???? Yes ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, BE88 said: Why do cows have to die don't tell me it's to save the planet???? Yes ??? no I mean if we eat them. elon musk on cows: 4:51 - don't worry about the cows. cows are fine. cows are not going to destroy the environment. farming and cows do not have a meaningful effect on the environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE88 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 For this time I agree with Elon Musk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, save the frogs said: no I mean if we eat them. elon musk on cows: 4:51 - don't worry about the cows. cows are fine. cows are not going to destroy the environment. farming and cows do not have a meaningful effect on the environment. Utterly false. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cattle-farming-bad-environment-anumeenacare https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth Edited December 29, 2023 by ozimoron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseThailand Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, flyingtlger said: Beef CAUSES cancer! And then helps with immune response to it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I don't see this topic lasting long. I think that that posting random articles is against the rules, anyway. Keep it to answering specific health questions by posters. Role models! Happy meatless Breathaians: At least one, maybe more has died already. That short but happy life. Without my bothering to do any work, a couple of articles from the vault: Meat and mental health: a systematic review of meat abstention and depression, anxiety, and related phenomena Should offer some needed tightening of the ol' screws. Study: Meat Consumption is Positively Associated with Life Expectancy To sum up all you need to know, going forward: The old diet/exercise paradigm: low fat grazing sugar and starches AVAP (as vegetarian as possible) seed oils aerobics / Ken Cooper-inspired cardio inefficient, time consuming, joint-destroying Arnoldian strength training (ask Sylvester Stallone) shade The new paradigm: low carb intermittent fasting eggs, meat, fish, full fat dairy, veggies, berries, avoiding sugar and starches unrefined fats and oils, low in PUFA or high in Omega 3 intervals, possibly (say 20 min twice a week) some walking (say, 30 min 3 times a week) efficient, intense Arthur Jones/Mentzer/Ken Hutchins strength training with lighter weights/body weight/bands/suspension trainer; few sets & reps sun (say 15 min 3 times a week) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddyA Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Most of the "WARNING! Meat May/Might/Could…." studies with attention-grabbing headlines are funded by billionaires. They are the people heavily invested in plant-based food production, especially synthetic, heavily processed fake meat made from vegan pea protein granules. All these so-called studies are epidemiological (observational) and do not show causation. Observational data in and of itself is junk research and has no place in the public domain. Scientists are supposed to use it to potentially generate hypothesis, not pass on weak associations as potential dangers to media outlets. But they do! AVOID REAL FOOD! It's ironic that—according to researchers—certain real foods have become harmful to human health, such as meats, eggs, fish, poultry, etc. Well, look what happened to the peoples of the world after the dietary guidelines suggested low-fat, low-cholesterol, as the way forward. How's that working out for your waistline? WHO CONTROLS THE NARRATIVE? What most people don't realize is that the the powerful plant-based lobbyist control what you see, hear, and read. Studies that disagree with their vested interests are buried so deep that they never see the light of day. For example, how many of you reading here know anything about the study below? Not many, that's for sure, but it deserves as much publicity as sensational headlines controlled by those invested in and pushing the vegan and vegetarian lifestyle. THE HARVARD CARNIVORE DIET STUDY In 2020, a team of researchers at Harvard University conducted the first mainstream study on the carnivore diet. The study surveyed over 2000 carnivore dieters. And the findings were published on 2 November 2021 in Current Developments in Nutrition. NATIONALITY 64% of participants were from the United States and Canada, 11% from Europe, and 8% from Australia. SEX Two-thirds of the participants were male. One-third were female. AGE Participants’ ages ranged from 18 to 85. The median age was 44. WEIGHT Participant body weight ranged from 38 kg to 176 kg (84 lb to 388 lb). The median weight was 76 kg (168 lb.) CHANGES IN HEALTH STATUS 95% improved overall health 91% improved hunger/food cravings 89% improved energy 85% improved mental clarity 83% improved focus 78% improved strength 76% improved endurance 69% improved sleep 69% improved chronic disease 66% improved memory HOW CHRONIC CONDITIONS CHANGED 98% improved or resolved diabetes and insulin resistance 97% improved or resolved gastrointestinal conditions 96% improved or resolved musculoskeletal issues 96% improved or resolved psychiatric symptoms 93% improved or resolved overweight/obesity 93% improved or resolved hypertension 92% improved or resolved urologic issues 92% improved or resolved dermatologic issues 89% improved or resolved autoimmune conditions 84% improved or resolved cardiovascular issues HOW MEDICATION USE CHANGED 100% discontinued other diabetes injectables 92% discontinued insulin for type 2 diabetes altogether 90% discontinued or decreased insulin 84% discontinued oral diabetes medications. IN CONCLUSION Shhhhhhh! There's no big money in a proper human diet or profits for big pharama who treat your factory food-born obesity and associated illnesses. Edited December 29, 2023 by AddyA 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Eating meat is always negative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Closed in keeping with Health Forum specific rules against posting of news articles https://aseannow.com/topic/224498-health-forum-rules/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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