Popular Post CharlieH Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 In his first campaign speech of 2024, President Joe Biden cast his likely election opponent, Donald Trump, as a fundamental threat to American democracy. "Whether democracy is still America's sacred cause is the most urgent question of our time," Mr Biden said. "It's what the 2024 election is all about," he added. The speech saw Mr Biden returning to a theme he has invoked over and over in recent years. This time, he explicitly drew a line to the 6 January 2021 attack on the US Capitol to make his case. That day, Mr Trump's supporters violently stormed Congress to stop lawmakers from certifying the presidential election results for Mr Biden, just weeks before he was set to take office. Mr Trump, the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, frequently repeats the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen from him. The former president has also attempted to reframe the 6 January attack as a "beautiful day." He has referred to the individuals who participated as "patriots" and political prisoners, and vowed to pardon them if he returns to the White House. Taking direct aim at this rhetoric, Mr Biden accused Mr Trump of trying to "steal history", attacking his rival by name repeatedly. "Trump's mob wasn't a peaceful protest, it was a violent assault," Mr Biden said. "They were insurrectionists, not patriots. They were not there to uphold the Constitution, they were there to destroy the Constitution." The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Jason Miller, a senior Trump campaign adviser, wrote on X that Mr Biden "has given up on running an issues-based campaign for 2024". "Rather than help those suffering from Bidenomics or our porous southern border, Biden plans on weaponising government against his leading political opponent," Mr Miller wrote. The day that still divides America, three years on What happened on 6 January at the Capitol riot? Mr Biden has returned to the theme of preserving democracy again and again. In 2020, he campaigned as the candidate capable of restoring America to normalcy. Before the 2022 midterms, Mr Biden described that election as a "battle for the soul of this nation". On Friday the venue in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, a key site in the American Revolutionary War, was chosen to underscore the themes of Mr Biden's address. FULL STORY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 Absolutely correct mr trump is fortunate America is a first world country with a functioning judicial system many countrys would have just ended this disgrace without benifit of due process 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) Biden seems to be going downhill. Yesterday, he was randomly talking about magnets, and he said "drop a magnet in water. End of the magnet." Cognitive decline. Edited January 6 by Danderman123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: Biden seems to be going downhill. Yesterday, he was randomly talking about magnets, and he said "drop a magnet in water. End of the magnet." Cognitive decline. Indeed. Only a complete imbecile would come out with a comment like that. Or a dementia sufferer. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 56 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Biden seems to be going downhill. Yesterday, he was randomly talking about magnets, and he said "drop a magnet in water. End of the magnet." Cognitive decline. A link to that would be helpful... It hasn't made it to Bing yet, and Google is blocked here. And, fair is fair... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illisdean Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 55 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Or a dementia sufferer. Bide apparently knows NOT who's fighting who, in what war, in what locations. Maybe Hunters not the only crack-head junkie in the Biden family of space cadets. Politico JUNE 28 2023 Edited January 6 by illisdean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 Just watched part of the speech. I wonder if he realizes how creepy he sounded coming back to the mic with the "I understand power". MSM, via his handlers, will probably walk it back and claim he was saying "I like ice cream" 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 17 minutes ago, impulse said: Just watched part of the speech. I wonder if he realizes how creepy he sounded coming back to the mic with the "I understand power". MSM, via his handlers, will probably walk it back and claim he was saying "I like ice cream" You came accroos it randomly? After concluding a speech about democracy, U.S. President Joe Biden said, "I understand power" https://pravda-en.com/world/2024/01/05/251068.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 Pity that Biden apparently has nothing positive to say as to why voters should elect him, and instead just attacks the opponent, who is apparently doing better than him in polls. Perhaps that is all Biden has. Southern border- chaos Israel/ Gaza conflict- not going well for Biden Regional war in the ME- not looking good so far Ukraine- not going well for Biden Afghanistan- fiasco withdrawal Inflation- not doing well National debt- not looking good Immigration reform- nothing on that as yet If there are any positives, I'm sorry but I can't think of any off hand. 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 12 hours ago, impulse said: A link to that would be helpful... It hasn't made it to Bing yet, and Google is blocked here. And, fair is fair... The poster you quoted seems to be losing it. He ascribed a speech by Trump to Biden. I found a link for you, though it could very well be a fake link as it's not on any main stream site that I could find. https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-weighs-in-on-magnets-and-his-potential-hesitancy-for-putting-on-pants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 58 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Pity that Biden apparently has nothing positive to say as to why voters should elect him, and instead just attacks the opponent, who is apparently doing better than him in polls. Perhaps that is all Biden has. Southern border- chaos Israel/ Gaza conflict- not going well for Biden Regional war in the ME- not looking good so far Ukraine- not going well for Biden Afghanistan- fiasco withdrawal Inflation- not doing well National debt- not looking good Immigration reform- nothing on that as yet If there are any positives, I'm sorry but I can't think of any off hand. The usual B.S. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Pity that Biden apparently has nothing positive to say as to why voters should elect him, First I reject the contention that Bjden has nothing positive to say concerning the issue why they should elect him. If you really believe that he has not, you are ether not paying attentions, or your definition of " positive" is different than most peoples. But even if we concede that he has not. No need. As unfortunate as it is , everyone with half a brain knows why they should elect Biden over trump , I am sure you do also. Edited January 6 by sirineou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, sirineou said: First I reject the contention that Bjden has nothing positive to say concerning the issue why they should elect him. If you really believe that he has not, you are ether not paying attentions, or your definition of " positive" is different than most peoples. But even if we concede that he has not. No need. As unfortunate as it is , everyone with half a brain knows why they should elect Biden over trump , I am sure you do also. If I could and it was a choice between Trump and Biden, I'd vote for Trump, because I think Biden has been a worse president than Trump was. I suppose those that would vote for Biden think the same though visa versa. If Bernie was the Democrat candidate, I'd vote for him, despite him being very old. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted January 6 Popular Post Share Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I suppose those that would vote for Biden think the same though visa versa. But here's the difference. We disagree with Biden voters, sure. But we don't accuse them of having half a brain, or being deplorable. And we don't try to bar them from voting for their candidate, even if he is demonstrably crooked and has dementia. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 38 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: If I could and it was a choice between Trump and Biden, I'd vote for Trump, because I think Biden has been a worse president than Trump was Unlike other nations who derive their cohesion from a common ethnic identity the US being a nation of immigrants derives it's cohesion from a tacit trust in it's institutions and that for the most part they work fairly for all. It is the binding core in what we consider the USA to be, trump has done more to degrade such institutions than anyone and anything in the history of the United States of America, There are few things that I don't like about Biden and if better options existed I would opt for such, but all the negatives attributed to Biden pale in comparison to those exhibited by trump. He represents an existential danger to the concept on America, where the undesirable elements attributed to Biden do not. I believe it was Sun Tzu in the art of war who said (please correct me if I am wrong). In the absence of no good options the least harmful option is the best. Edited January 6 by sirineou 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Pity that Biden apparently has nothing positive to say as to why voters should elect him, If there are any positives, I'm sorry but I can't think of any off hand. You must not be paying much attention to the news. Unemployment and the price of gas are coming down. Inflation is coming down. Wages are up. US manufacturing is way up. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: If I could and it was a choice between Trump and Biden, I'd vote for Trump, because I think Biden has been a worse president than Trump was. I suppose those that would vote for Biden think the same though visa versa. If Bernie was the Democrat candidate, I'd vote for him, despite him being very old. Lots of people voted for Hitler because they thought Hindenburg was too old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 10 hours ago, impulse said: Just watched part of the speech. I wonder if he realizes how creepy he sounded coming back to the mic with the "I understand power". MSM, via his handlers, will probably walk it back and claim he was saying "I like ice cream" So now you are posting news from Pravda? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, Danderman123 said: So now you are posting news from Pravda? I had never been to Pravda, up until Candide posted his link. But I do peruse some right wing stuff that jumped all over the "I understand power" like ducks on a june bug. You'll have to look for them yourself, because those links usual get taken down by the mods, along with the rest of the post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 6 minutes ago, impulse said: I had never been to Pravda, up until Candide posted his link. But I do peruse some right wing stuff that jumped all over the "I understand power" like ducks on a june bug. You'll have to look for them yourself, because those links usual get taken down by the mods, along with the rest of the post. No difference if you get your material directly from Pravda, or indirectly. You need to ask yourself why you are spreading propaganda from the Russians. Putin's goal is to re-establish the USSR. Why do you choose to help him? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: No difference if you get your material directly from Pravda, or indirectly. You need to ask yourself why you are spreading propaganda from the Russians. Putin's goal is to re-establish the USSR. Why do you choose to help him? So, if I see some news on Fox or CNN, I need to make sure it's not on Russian media before I link to it? Does that mean I'm not supposed to discuss the Boeing 737 Max9 thing, because that's all over Russian media. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 12 minutes ago, impulse said: So, if I see some news on Fox or CNN, I need to make sure it's not on Russian media before I link to it? Does that mean I'm not supposed to discuss the Boeing 737 Max9 thing, because that's all over Russian media. Why would you even bother with Pravda? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: Why would you even bother with Pravda? As I stated, I don't. Candide's link was the first time I ever visited the Pravda website. Based on what I found, I don't ever have to go back. But I do looks for news from RT, AlJazeera and some other sources unfriendly to the USA. If only to understand what they're thinking and what they're peddling. And sometimes, they beat the MSM by hours (in the case of the 737-9Max incident, for example). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 42 minutes ago, impulse said: So, if I see some news on Fox or CNN, I need to make sure it's not on Russian media before I link to it? Does that mean I'm not supposed to discuss the Boeing 737 Max9 thing, because that's all over Russian media. Use common sense: Your anti-Biden talking points generally come from Russian sources. The real question is why your opinion so closely aligns with Russian propaganda. Edited January 7 by Danderman123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Use common sense: Your anti-Biden talking points generally come from Russian sources. The real question is why your opinion so closely aligns with Russian propaganda. Not hardly. I still remember when my Russian grandfather went to visit his brothers and sisters in the old country. Mid '70s, after he'd been gone over 60 years. We asked him how it was and he just said "Quit complaining and pay your taxes. We have it good here". Regarding Biden, my opinion aligns with 58% of my countrymen. And I believe in the democratic process. Not in lawfare. But then, until earlier this year, I lived in the USA for 4 years. Most of the guys posting here haven't been on the ground, living there, in years (if ever). If I read only the MSM, I'd probably think he was the 2nd coming of Jesus. I know better, from personal experience. Edited January 7 by impulse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Something else interesting from this speech was how Biden is 'handled'. Jill now comes on stage to take him by the hand and show him where to exit. So he can totter off without looking lost and confused. Also that the uber serious mantra of "beware January 6" is becoming an accepted part of the leftist catechism. It is becoming a yearly event, marked by furrowed brows and serious head nodding. I must say though, it does show the strength of America's institutions that it could survive both a Trump AND a Biden presidency and stay intact. Bravo my cousins! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Here's a link to the magnets thing. https://www.salon.com/2024/01/06/presents-interesting-theory-on-how-magnets-work-during-rally-in-iowa/ There is also a whopper out there about him saying he wanted the military to use "automatic weapons" on the 1/6 crowd; he posted it on his own website, the news sites picked it up and it was disappeared immediately. So, these are "my people, they won't hurt me" and at the same time they were antifa in disguise as rednecks as coordinated by Pelosi. How are his patriot choir guys taking this automatic weapons news? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pouatchee Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 i tend to stay away from political arguments/debates. i never voiced a comment on brexit and so far i have stayed away from this farce in the united states. first reason why i never discussed brexit... i am not a brit and it is none of my business. about the usa, i am a dual american/canadian citizen but i do not vote in the states, so once again not my business and the biggest reason is that politics are divisive and the best way to make enemies that otherwise could easily be friends. that said, if i were to vote i would think twice about biden. when a leader cant stand on his own achievements and needs to use weak tactics like reminding everyone what trump did and how he is a bad bad bad man then thats it for me. WHOEVER talks like this and is supposed to be a great leader makes me look at him in total disbelief. i think the dems need to find a new head 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 hours ago, impulse said: But here's the difference. We disagree with Biden voters, sure. But we don't accuse them of having half a brain, or being deplorable. And we don't try to bar them from voting for their candidate, even if he is demonstrably crooked and has dementia. Sure. "Lock her up!". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, impulse said: Not hardly. I still remember when my Russian grandfather went to visit his brothers and sisters in the old country. Mid '70s, after he'd been gone over 60 years. We asked him how it was and he just said "Quit complaining and pay your taxes. We have it good here". Regarding Biden, my opinion aligns with 58% of my countrymen. And I believe in the democratic process. Not in lawfare. But then, until earlier this year, I lived in the USA for 4 years. Most of the guys posting here haven't been on the ground, living there, in years (if ever). If I read only the MSM, I'd probably think he was the 2nd coming of Jesus. I know better, from personal experience. You've been posting links to dodgy 'news' cites long before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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