2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

And you have no concept of what hiring figures mean... the amount of misinformation being generated by the democraptic machine is at an all time high... while Americans struggle to keep their heads above water... bidenomics is a colossal failure for most of middleclass America.

Really? I have no concept of what hiring figures mean? I pointed out exactly why your citation of job loss figures was meaningless without citing hiring figures. All you have as a comeback is to tell my that I don't understand what hiring figures mean without explaining why.

 

As for how Americans feel about the economy...the latest surveys of Americans from various sources show that on balance Americans are more optimistic about their personal financial situation than pessimistic. For 24 months unemployment has been below 4%. 

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s an unsubstantiated claim.

It is in the link.

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes it is, enjoy:

 

”Results currently show the president as having won 97% of the vote in South Carolina. Williamson is in second, with 1.8%, and Phillips in third, with 1.4%. The president appears on course for an overwhelming victory in the first state to vote in the Democratic nomination process, after New Hampshire voters last month gave him the victory in that state’s primary, even though he did not campaign.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/feb/03/south-carolina-democrats-primary-biden-live-us-elections-2024-latest-updates?page=with:block-65bedee88f087d8b7094f561#block-65bedee88f087d8b7094f561

Which means the Democrats are terrible. A 81yo lying racist with dementia is leading. 

 

 

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s an unsubstantiated claim.

Here is the link

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/09/1218291541/biden-economy-inflation-jobs

 

Democrat voters think Trump did better with the economy

9 minutes ago, uttradit said:

Which means the Democrats are terrible. A 81yo lying racist with dementia is leading. 

 

 

Or your vitriol laced assertions are nonsense.

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Or your vitriol laced assertions are nonsense.

 

 

 

 

I see you can't read links. 

Is Biden racist? Yes

 

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks

 

Is he a liar? Yes

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jul/9/president-biden-is-liar/

 

"Then Mr. Biden was caught lying about academic awards that he never earned, about scholarships that he never received, and about his ranking in law school, stating he graduated in the top half of his class when, in fact, he finished 76th of 85."

Edited February 4, 20242 yr by uttradit

13 minutes ago, uttradit said:

Here is the link

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/09/1218291541/biden-economy-inflation-jobs

 

Democrat voters think Trump did better with the economy

I think you need to read the article again.

 

Pay special attention to what it says about the wildly swinging partisan views of Republicans, and how that Aline’s witg your own posting history.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think you need to read the article again.

 

Pay special attention to what it says about the wildly swinging partisan views of Republicans, and how that Aline’s witg your own posting history.

You need to admit to being wrong and stop lying like your hero Joe. Democrats preferred the economy under Trump. It is getting embarrassing for you.

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Or your vitriol laced assertions are nonsense.

 

 

 

 

It is "all" not "or". Really basic errors you are making. Epic fail on your part to appear clever.

Joe lifts speeches

 

https://wgntv.com/news/politics/remember-when-joe-biden-plagiarized-a-speech-while-running-for-president/

Joe is a habitual liar

 

https://oversight.house.gov/blog/joe-biden-lied-at-least-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/

2 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

For every liberal left poll there is a balance... Coincidentally, over the past three years, President Joe Biden’s impact on the economy has been hotly debated: Around 2 in 3 (67 percent) of Republicans and 59 percent of Independents say their overall personal financial situation has gotten worse since November 2020, while only 31 percent of Democrats say the same.

Got a link to that so we all can know what that poll was conducted?

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I think the Trumpists are very triggered recently as coverage of how Trump is mentally falling apart is finally being widely covered. Particularly the Nikki Haley -- Nancy Pelosi mixup. Not once but again and again. 

 

 

Are you serious? 

It obvious who is the most mentally challenged. 

It is o ly your irrational fear and hatred of Trump that stops you seeing the obvious, Biden is an incompetent old fool and would be forced to leave any other job. 

Of course he is unfit to be president another 4 years. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. 

I doubt he will live 4 years. 

31 minutes ago, uttradit said:

Is Biden racist? Yes

 

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks

 

Is he a liar? Yes

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jul/9/president-biden-is-liar/

 

"Then Mr. Biden was caught lying about academic awards that he never earned, about scholarships that he never received, and about his ranking in law school, stating he graduated in the top half of his class when, in fact, he finished 76th of 85."

Thanks, I knew he was racist, but not a dunce. 

3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

And you have no concept of what hiring figures mean... the amount of misinformation being generated by the democraptic machine is at an all time high... while Americans struggle to keep their heads above water... bidenomics is a colossal failure for most of middleclass America.

 

Most of the recent jobs increase has been added to the manufacturing and service sectors.

21 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

For every liberal left poll there is a balance... Coincidentally, over the past three years, President Joe Biden’s impact on the economy has been hotly debated: Around 2 in 3 (67 percent) of Republicans and 59 percent of Independents say their overall personal financial situation has gotten worse since November 2020, while only 31 percent of Democrats say the same.

 

This means that the red states aren't doing as well. Why is that? What does that have to do with Biden?

 

I think most can clearly see Biden is too old but they see a steady experienced hand that has reasonable judgement on big issues and who puts trustworthy smart people around him.

I hope he has enough left in the tank to get through the electoral cycle and then likely will spend much of the 4 years as a friendly grandfather symbolic leader letting the people he puts in place get the job done.

The thing that would likely get him a win is the successful economy, and the huge risk and contrast with the opponent, who is totally untrustworthy and unpredictable and who, as his mental state continues to decline as it likely will, will have only loyalist unqualified toadies around him rather than the best and smartest. 

How many people around Trump have gone to prison? 50?  If a Dem had this kind of association, the GOP would be frothing at the mouth. America needs a skilled leader, not a con-man.

 

**Edit by moderator, the spelling of the US Presidential candidates name has been corrected

I've hidden a couple of posts that attempted to hijack the discussion. 

On 2/2/2024 at 3:33 PM, Berkshire said:

Your credibility was gone after this statement.  So you actually believe Trump's election lies?  Seriously?  Zero proof, yet you believe the serial liar Trump.  You're in la-la land. 

I saw a wonderful, anonymous quote on FB yesterday that I think sums it up for me:-

 

'We won't change the minds of Trump supporters with facts, logic or appeals of decency. If they could be influenced by these things, they wouldn't be Trump supporters.' 

Trump has too much baggage.

 

1/ He has clear signs of dementia when staging his rallies, which are only attracting the faithful.

2/ The unions are endorsing Biden, they have realized Trump did nothing for them during his presidency.

3/ He doesn't have the funds. They are mostly going to the lawyers defending him, not in campaigning.

4/ He has 91 indictments to deal with. He can't campaign effectively from a courtroom. Judges shut him down when he tries.

5/ People are sick of Trump and his grievances. They want leadership on jobs and the economy.

6/ In crowing over the Supreme Court's decision on Roe vs Wade, he alienated a large bloc of the women's vote.

7/ He now has Nikki Haley going for his jugular. She's making an impression.

 

I am anticipating Trump will still get the GOP nomination, but it will be a Pyrrhic victory.

 

 

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Trump has too much baggage.

 

1/ He has clear signs of dementia when staging his rallies, which are only attracting the faithful.

2/ The unions are endorsing Biden, they have realized Trump did nothing for them during his presidency.

3/ He doesn't have the funds. They are mostly going to the lawyers defending him, not in campaigning.

4/ He has 91 indictments to deal with. He can't campaign effectively from a courtroom. Judges shut him down when he tries.

5/ People are sick of Trump and his grievances. They want leadership on jobs and the economy.

6/ In crowing over the Supreme Court's decision on Roe vs Wade, he alienated a large bloc of the women's vote.

7/ He now has Nikki Haley going for his jugular. She's making an impression.

 

I am anticipating Trump will still get the GOP nomination, but it will be a Pyrrhic victory.

 

 

 

Trump famously lives on a diet of big macs and coke while never exercising. There isn't a doctor alive that will tell you that won't lead to early onset dementia. Only his "perfect genes" and the Walter Reid Hospital have allowed him to live this long.

'He has dementia': Internet erupts after Trump suggests he looks like Elvis

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-dementia-elvis-mocked/

 

Actually it's true. They were both very pudgy at this twilight time in their lives.

Edited February 4, 20242 yr by ozimoron

31 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Are you serious? 

It obvious who is the most mentally challenged. 

It is o ly your irrational fear and hatred of Trump that stops you seeing the obvious, Biden is an incompetent old fool and would be forced to leave any other job. 

Of course he is unfit to be president another 4 years. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. 

I doubt he will live 4 years. 

How unfit is a person who mistakes Nikki Haley for Nancy Pelosi, on one of the most significant days in American history? Who says E. Jean Carroll is his wife in a photo, after saying she's not my type?

That's not mentally challenged?

I seriously doubt Trump will live another four years. He's a fat slug, and with his diet he is a prime candidate for a heart attack or stroke. Quite apart from his incontinence, he got the nickname Diaper Don for a reason.

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

How unfit is a person who mistakes Nikki Haley for Nancy Pelosi, on one of the most significant days in American history? Who says E. Jean Carroll is his wife in a photo, after saying she's not my type?

That's not mentally challenged?

I seriously doubt Trump will live another four years. He's a fat slug, and with his diet he is a prime candidate for a heart attack or stroke. Quite apart from his incontinence, he got the nickname Diaper Don for a reason.

 

The reason, from what I read, is that he suffers from the worst case of incontinence I have ever heard of. Uncontrolled over minutes.

Biden or Trump, either way America loses.

2 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Biden or Trump, either way America loses.

 

So, what do you suggest? Americans should stay home or vote third party. I believe everyone has a civic duty to actually make a choice and vote. Even if that vote is a vote against a candidate.

"In the environment where we are now where Trump is obviously insane and an adjudicated rapist, he is the guy who planned a coup over the U.S. election, he helped kill half of a million people by fumbling Covid. — people get it," he added. "They understand now in a broader way.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-insane-2667161619/

12 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Biden or Trump, either way America loses.

Disagree, at least Biden has competent advisers to support him. Trump only has toadies and yes-men.