ozimoron Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, Bkk Brian said: There's another topic on Galloway, this is not it He's at least a citizen of the UK and vocal about the war. On topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryandb Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: There's another topic on Galloway, this is not it he's mentioned in the main post so I'll say what I want in relation to the story but thanks for your input 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, ryandb said: he's mentioned in the main post so I'll say what I want in relation to the story but thanks for your input Yes the other poster that mentioned him was off topic also. 😕 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, ryandb said: he's mentioned in the main post so I'll say what I want in relation to the story but thanks for your input Rochdale by-election: Controversial left-winger George Galloway wins after chaotic campaign https://aseannow.com/topic/1321259-rochdale-by-election-controversial-left-winger-george-galloway-wins-after-chaotic-campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ryandb Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Yes the other poster that mentioned him was off topic also. 😕 the news team that started the thread was on the entire topic was off topic was it? " The recent victory of George Galloway, a controversial figure with a history of inflammatory rhetoric, in the Rochdale by-election has only heightened concerns within the Jewish community. Galloway's past statements and associations have raised alarm bells among Jewish organizations, who fear that his election could embolden antisemitic sentiments and normalize hate speech. The Board of Deputies of British Jews has condemned Galloway's win as a "dark day" for the UK's Jewish community, highlighting the growing sense of unease and apprehension among its members. " 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, ryandb said: the news team that started the thread was on the entire topic was off topic was it? " The recent victory of George Galloway, a controversial figure with a history of inflammatory rhetoric, in the Rochdale by-election has only heightened concerns within the Jewish community. Galloway's past statements and associations have raised alarm bells among Jewish organizations, who fear that his election could embolden antisemitic sentiments and normalize hate speech. The Board of Deputies of British Jews has condemned Galloway's win as a "dark day" for the UK's Jewish community, highlighting the growing sense of unease and apprehension among its members. " Topic is: ‘Britain feels like Nazi Germany’: The Jewish people wanting to flee the UK as antisemitism Link to discussion on Galloway already given to you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 9 hours ago, Greenhill said: And so what? Are they harming anybody by dressing like that? What's your dress-code like? That isn't the point being made. If a fundamentalist of either Judaism or Islam were to visit a stronghold of the opposition while in full fundamentalist regalia, would anyone be surprised if they got a bit of "agro"? If they want to dress up in costume in their own areas, that's up to them, but they should be safe enough. However, if they want to go out in the general public, it behooves them to try an blend in a bit. After all, it's only a costume and taking it off doesn't mean that they lost their religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryandb Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Topic is: ‘Britain feels like Nazi Germany’: The Jewish people wanting to flee the UK as antisemitism Link to discussion on Galloway already given to you appreciate it, but it doesn't change my original post that was in relation to the story 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, ryandb said: the news team that started the thread was on the entire topic was off topic was it? " The recent victory of George Galloway, a controversial figure with a history of inflammatory rhetoric, in the Rochdale by-election has only heightened concerns within the Jewish community. Galloway's past statements and associations have raised alarm bells among Jewish organizations, who fear that his election could embolden antisemitic sentiments and normalize hate speech. The Board of Deputies of British Jews has condemned Galloway's win as a "dark day" for the UK's Jewish community, highlighting the growing sense of unease and apprehension among its members. " Nothing like a bit of fearmongering to support the "we are victims" messaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 22 minutes ago, ryandb said: I'm a Galloway fan and Jewish Pant on fire 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryandb Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said: Pant on fire sounds a little anti semetic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) I find it vile and inhumane to support the continued slaughter of civilians in order to exact retribution against Hamas, tot he last man, whether present on October 7th or not while, at the same time refusing to state whether the Palestinians should have a state and whether or not all of Gaza and the West Bank belong to Israel. This is not a war. Which nation was war declared against? This was a policing operation against terrorists. It is not a 1967 replay. If you claim this is a war at least acknowledge that the 1967 war never ended. There is only a ceasefire agreement with Egypt. Just like ww1 and we know how that turned out. If there is a war, it started in 1948 when two million people were forced from their homes, a clear act of genocide. It was a huge mistake not to have created a simultaneous Palestinian nation. That is did not happen can only be a tip of the hat to the zionist ideal that the entire region belongs to Israel. Edited March 5 by ozimoron 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: This is not a war. Which nation was war declared against? er, Israel ..... do try and keep up 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: er, Israel ..... do try and keep up Israeli declared "war". Bush was ridiculed for declaring a "war on terror". Which nation did Israel declare a war against? A declaration of war is a formal act by which one state announces existing or impending war activity against another. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 5 Popular Post Share Posted March 5 9 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Israeli declared "war". Bush was ridiculed for declaring a "war on terror". Which nation did Israel declare a war against? A declaration of war is a formal act by which one state announces existing or impending war activity against another. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war Well, if you don’t think that invading a sovereign country and slaughtering 1,200 of its citizens including young party goers, children, pregnant women, babies and holocaust survivors, is a declaration of war on the invaded sovereign country, you have hatred issues far beyond redemption. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said: Well, if you don’t think that invading a sovereign country and slaughtering 1,200 of its citizens including young party goers, children, pregnant women, babies and holocaust survivors, is a declaration of war on the invaded sovereign country, you have hatred issues far beyond redemption. It was a terrorist attack by a group of terrorists. It was not the act of a nation state. You can't contend that Hamas aren't soldiers but terrorists and that they engaged in war at the same time. If Hamas are an army and committed atrocities against Israel then the same can be said about the IDF. Acts of terror are crimes, not declarations of war. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: It was a terrorist attack by a group of terrorists. It was not the act of a nation state. You can't contend that Hamas aren't soldiers but terrorists and that they engaged in war at the same time. If Hamas are an army and committed atrocities against Israel then the same can be said about the IDF. Acts of terror are crimes, not declarations of war. You are making excuses for these people which in itself is despicable, they started this war now they are losing this war, and they are suddenly playing the victim, they are not the victim, they are the instigators. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Wobblybob said: You are making excuses for these people which in itself is despicable, they started this war now they are losing this war, and they are suddenly playing the victim, they are not the victim, they are the instigators. Show me where I'm making excuses for a terrorist organization I have explicitly condemned time and again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, ozimoron said: It was a terrorist attack by a group of terrorists. It was not the act of a nation state. You can't contend that Hamas aren't soldiers but terrorists and that they engaged in war at the same time. If Hamas are an army and committed atrocities against Israel then the same can be said about the IDF. Acts of terror are crimes, not declarations of war. Complete and utter apologist nonsense. Hamas are the legitimate Government of Gaza, and have been for the last 18 years. The legitimate Government of Gaza carried out the invasion and atrocities on 7th October, atrocities that can only be described as a declaration of war on Israel …. Your continual denial of the facts is making you look completely disingenuous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said: Complete and utter apologist nonsense. Hamas are the legitimate Government of Gaza, and have been for the last 18 years. The legitimate Government of Gaza carried out the invasion and atrocities on 7th October, atrocities that can only be described as a declaration of war on Israel …. Your continual denial of the facts is making you look completely disingenuous. Wars are declared against nations, not organizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Wars are declared against nations, not organizations. Israel is a Nation ..... something else you've learned today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Israel is a Nation ..... something else you've learned today The definition is one nation state against another, something you seem to be unable to learn. Are both nation states or not? It was Israel who declared the "war". not Hamas. Hamas engaged in a terror attack. Edited March 5 by ozimoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: I find it vile and inhumane to support the continued slaughter of civilians in order to exact retribution against Hamas, tot he last man, whether present on October 7th or not while, at the same time refusing to state whether the Palestinians should have a state and whether or not all of Gaza and the West Bank belong to Israel. This is not a war. Which nation was war declared against? This was a policing operation against terrorists. It is not a 1967 replay. If you claim this is a war at least acknowledge that the 1967 war never ended. There is only a ceasefire agreement with Egypt. Just like ww1 and we know how that turned out. If there is a war, it started in 1948 when two million people were forced from their homes, a clear act of genocide. It was a huge mistake not to have created a simultaneous Palestinian nation. That is did not happen can only be a tip of the hat to the zionist ideal that the entire region belongs to Israel. This is not a war. Which nation was war declared against? Of course its a war, Israel declared a war against Hamas, do keep up. Israel Officially Declares War on Hamas After Surprise Attack https://www.voanews.com/a/israel-officially-declares-war-on-hamas-after-surprise-attack-/7301836.html Also acknowledged in Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza–Israel_conflict Why has the ICC been investigating both Hamas and Israel for possible "war crimes"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Show me where I'm making excuses for a terrorist organization I have explicitly condemned time and again. You don't listen, you have been caught out so many times but like the Black Knight you keep coming back for more punishment. You purposely use the word "genocide" to flame these boards, you know as well as anybody on here that Israel is not committing Genocide, you use the expression to fuel the fire, just the same as your vitriol use of the word Zionist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: This is not a war. Which nation was war declared against? Of course its a war, Israel declared a war against Hamas, do keep up. Israel Officially Declares War on Hamas After Surprise Attack https://www.voanews.com/a/israel-officially-declares-war-on-hamas-after-surprise-attack-/7301836.html Also acknowledged in Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza–Israel_conflict Why has the ICC been investigating both Hamas and Israel for possible "war crimes"? non sequitur. War can ONLY occur between two nation states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 hours ago, ozimoron said: ALL of Hamas demands in the current hostage negotiations are eminently reasonable Difficult to believe that any sane or reasonable person would spout such vile nonsense; when someone from a Western society, someone that has obviously had the privilege of a Western education, thinks that the abduction of hostages is perfectly acceptable, and that their demands for release are imminently reasonable, the world is indeed in grave danger. Out of interest, although you probably won’t want to say, but how, and why did you become a supporter of this terrorist organisation ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Hamas are the Nation state of Gaza ... they are their elected Government, stop excusing them simply because of your hatred for Jews You have quoted the wrong poster EL.🥴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Wobblybob said: You have quoted the wrong poster EL.🥴 Apologies, have just edited, thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, ozimoron said: non sequitur. War can ONLY occur between two nation states. Denial from the reality of the Israel/Hamas war as also acknowledged by the UN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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