transam Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: Strange, so you think IDF should be allowed to kill any journalist reporting thr true, ie not what your people say? 3 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Three former supreme court justices, including the court’s former president Lady Hale, are among more than 600 lawyers, academics and retired senior judges warning that the UK government is breaching international law by continuing to arm Israel. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/former-supreme-court-judges-say-uk-arming-israel-breaches-international-law The Guardian................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Three former supreme court justices, including the court’s former president Lady Hale, are among more than 600 lawyers, academics and retired senior judges warning that the UK government is breaching international law by continuing to arm Israel. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/former-supreme-court-judges-say-uk-arming-israel-breaches-international-law Already been posted! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 WATCH: An armed terrorist squad stepping out of a Hamas hideout is eliminated by the IDF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 10 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Strange, so you think IDF should be allowed to kill any journalist reporting thr true, ie not what your people say? Nice straw man. Seems to be a trend here. Don't presume to tell me what I think. That is a shallow and immature way to discuss things. Right up there with the faux rephrasing by constantly repeating, "so what you're saying is......" and then not saying what I am saying. I think journalism as an unbiased source of information is largely gone. And journalists who go into conflict zones freely take the risk to their health that such a decision entails. Embedded with a military, freelancing, doesn't matter. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 12 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Friendly fire happens in all wars . And sometimes it is not an accident, it is to create fear, and avoid future nosey witnesses. It is a message used in any war, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) Double Edited April 4 by Hummin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Hummin said: And sometimes it is not an accident, it is to create fear, and avoid future nosey witnesses. It is a message used in any war, Israel could have just denied them entry into Israel/Gaza , no need to bomb them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: Israel could have just denied them entry into Israel/Gaza , no need to bomb them They wish, but there is international rules, even Israel have to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 35 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Strange, so you think IDF should be allowed to kill any journalist reporting thr true, ie not what your people say? Yes, The IDF should be allowed to kill journalists who report true things . (Said in a really thick stupid voice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: They wish, but there is international rules, even Israel have to follow. Really, what are those international rules ? I thought that any Country could deny entry to anyone for any reason . But what are those international rules that Israel needs to follow ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 13 minutes ago, Hummin said: And sometimes it is not an accident, it is to create fear, and avoid future nosey witnesses. It is a message used in any war, Conspiracy theories not welcome and are untrue! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 21 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Really, what are those international rules ? I thought that any Country could deny entry to anyone for any reason . But what are those international rules that Israel needs to follow ? Israel have signed the Geneva conventions https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/protocol-additional-geneva-conventions-12-august-1949-and 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: Israel have signed the Geneva conventions https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/protocol-additional-geneva-conventions-12-august-1949-and What bit of that states that Israel has to let certain people into Israel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: What bit of that states that Israel has to let certain people into Israel ? Obviously you have limited knownledge of international duty and rights, and here you are one of the top experts on war? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 15 minutes ago, Hummin said: Obviously you have limited knownledge of international duty and rights, and here you are one of the top experts on war? Yes, I was asking you to tell me . I was under the impressions that Countries could deny entry to anyone they liked for any reason . What are the international laws which force Countries to allow people in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hummin Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Yes, I was asking you to tell me . I was under the impressions that Countries could deny entry to anyone they liked for any reason . What are the international laws which force Countries to allow people in ? You are so sure about everything, blindly support Israel, do not manage to see connections of cause and reaction or action, and lack of knownledge of human rights. The international press daily refer to abuse, violence and violated international laws, but there is not one little sign or confirmation from you guys the Israeli might have gone to far. Enjoy some educational article "There are specific provisions in international law to protect humanitarian workers and journalists during armed conflict. Under Article 79 of Additional Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions, which codifies a customary rule, journalists in war zones must be treated as civilians and protected as such, provided they play no part in the hostilities" https://safety.rsf.org/appendix-i-protection-of-journalists-in-war-zones/ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hummin said: You are so sure about everything, blindly support Israel, do not manage to see connections of cause and reaction or action, and lack of knownledge of human rights. The international press daily refer to abuse, violence and violated international laws, but there is not one little sign or confirmation from you guys the Israeli might have gone to far. Enjoy some educational article "There are specific provisions in international law to protect humanitarian workers and journalists during armed conflict. Under Article 79 of Additional Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions, which codifies a customary rule, journalists in war zones must be treated as civilians and protected as such, provided they play no part in the hostilities" https://safety.rsf.org/appendix-i-protection-of-journalists-in-war-zones/ Forget all that for the minute as its irrelevant , just tell me what internarial laws force Countries to allow people in to that Country ? (Also , your link is about journalist, the people in question were not journalists) Edited April 4 by Nick Carter icp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Forget all that for the minute as its irrelevant , just tell me what internarial laws force Countries to allow people in to that Country ? (Also , your link is about journalist, the people in question were not journalists) You still do not care to find out do you? No matter where the medics or health personnel come from, they are protected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Hanaguma said: Nice straw man. Seems to be a trend here. Don't presume to tell me what I think. That is a shallow and immature way to discuss things. Right up there with the faux rephrasing by constantly repeating, "so what you're saying is......" and then not saying what I am saying. I think journalism as an unbiased source of information is largely gone. And journalists who go into conflict zones freely take the risk to their health that such a decision entails. Embedded with a military, freelancing, doesn't matter. From the start you have offered your full support for the Israelis. I can understand now that might not be the case so show some integrity and admit you were wrong and stop playing childish games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9 minutes ago, Hummin said: You still do not care to find out do you? No matter where the medics or health personnel come from, they are protected. There isn't any international laws that force Israel to allow anyone in, now is there . Israel could have just barred them from entering Israel , rather than killing them in Gaza Besides the WCK were Israel's preferred choice for distributing aid and Israel hoped it would replace the Hamas aligned UNRWA for aid distribution 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: There isn't any international laws that force Israel to allow anyone in, now is there . Israel could have just barred them from entering Israel , rather than killing them in Gaza Besides the WCK were Israel's preferred choice for distributing aid and Israel hoped it would replace the Hamas aligned UNRWA for aid distribution Tell me how Israel can decide or not to block international health workers from entering Gaza? Are you completely out of your mind, or do you really state Gaza is a concentration camp war zone? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 3 minutes ago, Hummin said: Tell me how Israel can decide or not to block international health workers from entering Gaza? Are you completely out of your mind, or do you really state Gaza is a concentration camp war zone? Israel can refuse them entry when they arrive in Israel at the airport . There is also a fence between Israel and Gaza and the only way into Gaza is through an Israeli checkpoint and Isreal could refuse them entry there , that is why there are complaints about Israel not letting aid in because Rafah is the only way into Gaza . (No need to get angry with me, just because you made a false statement) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 15 minutes ago, Hummin said: Are you completely out of your mind, or do you really state Gaza is a concentration camp war zone? Gaza is a war zone, bit it isn't a concentration camp . Why did you suddenly mention concentration camps ? It seems rather random to mention concentration camos for no apparent reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hanaguma Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Israel can refuse them entry when they arrive in Israel at the airport . There is also a fence between Israel and Gaza and the only way into Gaza is through an Israeli checkpoint and Isreal could refuse them entry there , that is why there are complaints about Israel not letting aid in because Rafah is the only way into Gaza . (No need to get angry with me, just because you made a false statement) They could always come through via Egypt though, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 44 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: They could always come through via Egypt though, right? That border is closed , and when it was previously open , anything going into Gaza needed Israeli approval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 "The Hamas charter is to eliminate the Jewish people but starting with Israel." A real masterclass of two Palestian women showing their scant regard for human life whilst displaying their ignorance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: "The Hamas charter is to eliminate the Jewish people but starting with Israel." A real masterclass of two Palestian women showing their scant regard for human life whilst displaying their ignorance. Its nice to hear people talking and listening . So many T.V "discussions" nowadays are just two groups of people shouting at each other and nothing can be heard . Both shouting and neither listening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: Its nice to hear people talking and listening . So many T.V "discussions" nowadays are just two groups of people shouting at each other and nothing can be heard . Both shouting and neither listening These Palestian women are both educated but they are completely programmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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