American Woman Arrested for Allegedly Operating Nursery Without Legal Permission

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Surat Thani –An American woman was arrested after she allegedly operated a nursery without legal permission on the Pha Ngan Island in Surat Thani.

The Surat Thani Immigration Office told the Phuket Express that earlier this week they inspected a nursery on the Phan Ngan Island. About 20 three to five year old kids were found inside the nursery. Two female Israelis and a female Ukrainian were found as baby sitters and four Myanmar nationals were found as housekeepers.

 

Ms. JENNIFER, 40, American national, was presented as the owner. She was unable to present legal documents for the nursery. All involved were all taken to the Koh Pha Ngan Police Station.

 

By Goongnang Suksawat

 

Full story: THE PHUKET EXPRESS 2024-03-08

 

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[Korat Kiwi]

And it continues.... 

 

   as has been mentioned in other posts, one has to be careful as it may be perceived as work. 

 

  Don't offer advice regarding drinks or food when in a bar for a start!

 

  I would think most 'tourists' would know what can and can't be done.  Simple,  don't break the law. 

 

  We'll maybe not so simple if it's open to interpretation... 

[FritsSikkink]

41 minutes ago, Korat Kiwi said:

And it continues.... 

 

   as has been mentioned in other posts, one has to be careful as it may be perceived as work. 

 

  Don't offer advice regarding drinks or food when in a bar for a start!

 

  I would think most 'tourists' would know what can and can't be done.  Simple,  don't break the law. 

 

  We'll maybe not so simple if it's open to interpretation... 

In this case it was fairly simple. From the link:

 

"The American woman is facing charges of being a foreigner that operates a nursery without legal permission. The two Israelis and the Ukraine women are facing charges of working without permission.

Two Myanmar housekeepers are facing charges of overstay and working without permission. One Myanmar house keeper is facing charges of illegally entering the country and working without permission."

[impulse]

I know it doesn't matter, but I wonder what the story is behind the nursery?

 

Did a few expats get together and decide to share the child care, with others seeing them and asking to participate?  Or did she just start up a nursery and sign up 20+/- kids and hire some help?

 

Shame, really.  Being American, I think the Treaty of Amity would have allowed her to do the business legally.  But there are still formalities, especially related to caring for other people's kids.  (At least there should be...)  Things like safety inspections, background checks, making sure the kitchen is sanitary, etc.

 

I don't know the lady from Eve, but I hope she can get on the straight and narrow, because expat child care can make or break an overseas posting for a lot of families.

 

[proton]

How about the guy selling burgers on the street in Bangkok and putting himself all over the internet, does he get away with it cos hes a double amputee?

[roo860]

1 minute ago, proton said:

How about the guy selling burgers on the street in Bangkok and putting himself all over the internet, does he get away with it cos hes a double amputee?

You mean the one who hasn't got a leg to stand on?

[ChaiyaTH]

What a farce, if they picked out this lady to put in the news they are clearly ignoring like a minimum of 100-300 other cases of low hanging fruit there.

 

I was hoping they take them all down, then that island would be normal again and have rentals available at normal prices too.

 

its 70%  full of people there hosting illegal workshops, day cares, hostels, restaurants, parties and more. 

 

Seems like a PR stunt where ever location is told to find 1-3 people.

Edited March 8 by ChaiyaTH

[ChaiyaTH]

299 more to go

[ChipButty]

Probably grassed up by a Legal nursery on the island, not easy getting licenses for that kind of business, plus the work permits 

[norfolkandchance]

40 minutes ago, roo860 said:

You mean the one who hasn't got a leg to stand on?

Get your coat.

[norfolkandchance]

Guy in our town just opened a Kebab franchise with his Thai wife on the Main Street. Sits front of house. Pizza place 2 doors down.  What could possibly go wrong.

[Enoon]

43 minutes ago, proton said:

How about the guy selling burgers on the street in Bangkok and putting himself all over the internet, does he get away with it cos hes a double amputee?

 

He was swiftly hounded out of business.

 

He was first featured on AN on 17th January 2017.

 

Two days later:

"Gareth Payne said on his No Name Burger Facebook fan page that he had been "verbally attacked". He cited other farangs "on some site" as being responsible. He said that people were "talking so bad" about him and he just wanted to make people happy and be left alone, reports Daily News."

 

 

[Gecko123]

No...its not the start of a pogram.

 

I think it's being driven by millennials, digital nomads, early retirees, and Ukraine war refugees and draft dodgers who think Thailand's labor laws don't apply to them.

[ChipButty]

Some Norwegian woman got arrested for driving tourist to the pier on that island 

[NativeBob]

Tourists and whoever must be really stoned on shrooms and weed to give their kids to this nursery: Israeli + Ukrainian under US management? The worst setup. Hope they will get their rewards like 10 years ban from entering Thailand. 
Phangan is weirdest place in Thailand 

[proton]

1 hour ago, Enoon said:

 

He was swiftly hounded out of business.

 

He was first featured on AN on 17th January 2017.

 

Two days later:

"Gareth Payne said on his No Name Burger Facebook fan page that he had been "verbally attacked". He cited other farangs "on some site" as being responsible. He said that people were "talking so bad" about him and he just wanted to make people happy and be left alone, reports Daily News."

 

 

well hes at it again, all over tik tok daily and a pest, had to turn notifications off as always getting messages to watch him live cooking and selling burgers, must be the same guy. Goes under captain's corner burgers

Edited March 8 by proton

[transam]

Well done, DAVE....................

[retarius]

4 hours ago, Korat Kiwi said:

And it continues.... 

 

   as has been mentioned in other posts, one has to be careful as it may be perceived as work. 

 

  Don't offer advice regarding drinks or food when in a bar for a start!

 

  I would think most 'tourists' would know what can and can't be done.  Simple,  don't break the law. 

 

  We'll maybe not so simple if it's open to interpretation... 

I don't think there are any misunderstandings here....with 20 kids there she was operating an illegal business....it's illegal. She probably doesn't break the law in the US, but doesn't mind doing it here....send her home. Revoke her visa and ask her to leave. 

[Korat Kiwi]

39 minutes ago, retarius said:

I don't think there are any misunderstandings here....with 20 kids there she was operating an illegal business....it's illegal. She probably doesn't break the law in the US, but doesn't mind doing it here....send her home. Revoke her visa and ask her to leave. 

So you have all the information do you?  Are you a policeman?  A detective? 

 

How do you know that it's not just a group of wife's getting together like a creche. 

 

As per usual... just run off at the mouth. 

 

Im beginning to see a pattern in your posts.  Frankly one I'm not interested in. 

[NativeBob]

40 minutes ago, retarius said:

Revoke her visa and ask her to leave. 

with nice smack on her butt.

Likely she was just another stoner who found the "lifehack" how to sustain herself on the Full Moon Island.

When I see that scum on the Kaosarn road with little kids sitting on the ground, sipping Chang and smoking in complete disregards of their kid's health, that view makes me angry. But who on this planet would trust those ^^^ ???

 

[RandiRona]

Did she say that she recognize herself as Thai and no one has right to take it away from her/them/they??

[CartagenaWarlock]

2 hours ago, retarius said:

I don't think there are any misunderstandings here....with 20 kids there she was operating an illegal business....it's illegal. She probably doesn't break the law in the US,

No, in the US, in all states, you need a child care license to babysit more than a few kids. In most states, it is 6.  

[proton]

5 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

He was swiftly hounded out of business.

 

He was first featured on AN on 17th January 2017.

 

Two days later:

"Gareth Payne said on his No Name Burger Facebook fan page that he had been "verbally attacked". He cited other farangs "on some site" as being responsible. He said that people were "talking so bad" about him and he just wanted to make people happy and be left alone, reports Daily News."

 

 

 

Must have a work permit then!

[Jone500]

2 hours ago, proton said:

 

Must have a work permit then!

he got a nominee That is her wife!

[Celsius]

can you imagine an American feminist millennial taking care of your kids?

 

most likely unqualified and full of tats too.

 

throw away the keys!

[proton]

31 minutes ago, Jone500 said:

he got a nominee That is her wife!

 

So if you get a nominee you can get round the restricted employment law?

[Jone500]

22 minutes ago, proton said:

 

So if you get a nominee you can get round the restricted employment law?

you can

[MonteD]

Open season on Farang, na?

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

The Surat Thani Immigration Office told the Phuket Express that earlier this week they inspected a nursery on the Phan Ngan Island. About 20 three to five year old kids were found inside the nursery. Two female Israelis and a female Ukrainian were found as baby sitters and four Myanmar nationals were found as housekeepers.

 

Ms. JENNIFER, 40, American national, was presented as the owner. She was unable to present legal documents for the nursery. All involved were all taken to the Koh Pha Ngan Police Station.

The knives are out now ..... those operating in the dark must be worried now.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, proton said:

 

So if you get a nominee you can get round the restricted employment law?

You still need a work permit and follow the working laws.