14 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Both websites you cite have been documented as spreading lies and misinformation. You should rethink your news sources.

Are you claiming that Biden didn't "boast about running up the deficit"? I watched it and he certainly did boast a lot about spending other people's money. Given that the US is apparently broke, it would add to the deficit.

Bidenomics, about as useful as “Build Back Better”

 

Lets go Brandon!

 

Trump train, Full Steam Ahead!

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/inflation-makes-essentials-unaffordable-younger-generations-are-paying-their-fair-share-in-bidens-economy

15 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

They care less if they are lied to as long as they have their deception to grasp. So sad that these people are so easily led but after November 5 th they go away forever.

And around that time trump goes to jail and all his assets liquidated to pay his fines.

5 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Has it ever been any interest to you that the USA does not include any of the basic living expenses when they put together their percentages...?

Your post is not clear. What do you mean, in a more analytical way?

 

In the link, they use CPI and compare with other countries. I haven't checked how each country calculates it, but for the ones I know, It's the same method. So the comparison is valid.

 

That was also exactly the same calculation method used when you (or other posters sharing the same view) bragged about "Trump's" low inflation in 2019.

18 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Both websites you cite have been documented as spreading lies and misinformation. You should rethink your news sources.

 

You should come up with an actual thought rather than just read fake news headlines.

17 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

And yet, Biden gave a campaign speech the other night, and was just fine. How do you explain that?

 

Slurred, divisive, demonizing any opposition, threatening SCOTUS (fatuously), pandering, lying, blaming, angry. Off teleprompter, screwed up royally. No new vision, just usual Dim talking points for retards.

 

Fail, except, as a campaign speech, demonstrated proof-of-life to his base. Lost opportunity to appeal to independents and moderates. As a campaign speech, it assured the Dims that they're stuck with him. How good that is for them remains to be seen. Not looking so good, given his record low approval ratings.

Edited March 11, 20242 yr by BigStar

11 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Slurred, divisive, demonizing any opposition, threatening SCOTUS (fatuously), pandering, lying, blaming, angry. Off teleprompter, screwed up royally. No new vision, just usual Dim talking points for retards.

 

Fail, except, as a campaign speech, demonstrated proof-of-life to his base. Lost opportunity to appeal to independents and moderates. As a campaign speech, it assured the Dims that they're stuck with him. How good that is for them remains to be seen. Not looking so good, given his record low approval ratings.

Thanks but no thanks to you opinion as long as majority of Americans had positive response to Biden’s SOTU address. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4518673-majority-of-americans-had-positive-response-to-bidens-sotu-speech-cnn-poll/

It's a pretty low bar when the ability to read a script for an hour is a vast improvement on what's gone before .

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It's a pretty low bar when the ability to read a script for an hour is a vast improvement on what's gone before .

Somebody else who didn’t watch the SOTU.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Somebody else who didn’t watch the SOTU.

 

Have you been peeping through the curtains into my condo again?  

 

As per forum rules, please provide a link to prove that I didn't watch it since you are presenting that statement as fact. 

22 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Thanks but no thanks to you opinion as long as majority of Americans had positive response to Biden’s SOTU address. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4518673-majority-of-americans-had-positive-response-to-bidens-sotu-speech-cnn-poll/

 

 From your own link:  CNN noted on air late Thursday that the poll was conducted among speech watchers, not of the overall electorate. The sample leaned more Democratic than the public is at large, but it’s typical for more Democrats to tune in when a Democratic president is delivering the State of the Union, as it is for Republicans to watch the address when a Republican is president.

 

So, a CNN poll, admittedly largely of lefty participants says that Biden got a 30 minute feel good bump from a fiery speech.   I'll bet he lost that bump and more the next day when even the Dem Elite turned on him for calling Laken Riley's alleged murderer an "illegal".  Rather fickle, those lefties...

 

The only thing that would even cap that is if CNN came out and admitted they only polled CNN listeners.  Which wouldn't surprise me, given their journalistic integrity.

 

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Have you been peeping through the curtains into my condo again?  

 

As per forum rules, please provide a link to prove that I didn't watch it since you are presenting that statement as fact. 

If you had watched the SOTU you would be aware it wasn’t an hour long, it was over an hour and 28 minutes with significant portions of ab libbing to slap down Republican hecklers.

 

So no, you never watched it.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

If you had watched the SOTU you would be aware it wasn’t an hour long, it was over an hour and 28 minutes with significant portions of ab libbing to slap down Republican hecklers.

 

Limited ad libbing. When he did, he messed up, citing Moscow as a prime example of how the US could improve. 

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

 

So no, you never watched it.

 

How on earth can you present that as fact? 

 

Like I said, when delivering a pre-written speech without falling over is a vast improvement and a show of strength you know the Dems are really clutching at straws. The clapping seals in the audience were equally as embarrassing. 

 

You'll be claiming he dressed himself next as evidence that he's a legendary leader. Desperate stuff. 

8 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

 From your own link:  CNN noted on air late Thursday that the poll was conducted among speech watchers, not of the overall electorate. The sample leaned more Democratic than the public is at large, but it’s typical for more Democrats to tune in when a Democratic president is delivering the State of the Union, as it is for Republicans to watch the address when a Republican is president.

 

So, a CNN poll, admittedly largely of lefty participants says that Biden got a 30 minute feel good bump from a fiery speech.   I'll bet he lost that bump and more the next day when even the Dem Elite turned on him for calling Laken Riley's alleged murderer an "illegal".  Rather fickle, those lefties...

 

The only thing that would even cap that is if CNN came out and admitted they only polled CNN listeners.  Which wouldn't surprise me, given their journalistic integrity.

 

Fox viewers formed the most watched network. Statistically they will be included in the poll. I am sure many of Fox viewers will be Biden converts. 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-channel-triumphs-most-watched-network-bidens-state-of-the-union-address#:~:text=A total of 5.8 million,more than any other network

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

 

Slurred, divisive, demonizing any opposition, threatening SCOTUS (fatuously), pandering, lying, blaming, angry. Off teleprompter, screwed up royally. No new vision, just usual Dim talking points for retards.

 

Fail, except, as a campaign speech, demonstrated proof-of-life to his base. Lost opportunity to appeal to independents and moderates. As a campaign speech, it assured the Dims that they're stuck with him. How good that is for them remains to be seen. Not looking so good, given his record low approval ratings.

Wow, you get  a star for most negative without real reason.

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

 From your own link:  CNN noted on air late Thursday that the poll was conducted among speech watchers, not of the overall electorate. The sample leaned more Democratic than the public is at large, but it’s typical for more Democrats to tune in when a Democratic president is delivering the State of the Union, as it is for Republicans to watch the address when a Republican is president.

 

So, a CNN poll, admittedly largely of lefty participants says that Biden got a 30 minute feel good bump from a fiery speech.   I'll bet he lost that bump and more the next day when even the Dem Elite turned on him for calling Laken Riley's alleged murderer an "illegal".  Rather fickle, those lefties...

 

The only thing that would even cap that is if CNN came out and admitted they only polled CNN listeners.  Which wouldn't surprise me, given their journalistic integrity.

 

What a biased survey! They only asked people who watched the speech, and not those who didn't watch it! 😀

 

So CNN itself outlined the limits of the survey, as expected.

 

That they polled only CNN listeners is only from your own imagination.

Edited March 11, 20242 yr by candide

Projecting strength and "truthful gaffes....

 

 

Telling it like it is....while running for Congress....

 

 Biden-Truly remarkable and dopey.... hilarious

More of Biden's achievements...

The US is pumping more oil than any country in history - and it's unlikely to be surpassed any time soon

https://news.yahoo.com/finance/news/us-pumping-more-oil-country-221438851.html

 

On 3/9/2024 at 8:45 AM, Danderman123 said:

It looks like the topic of Biden's masterful SOTU address has you scrambling to change the subject.

 

Yes, from the aspect of peddling a big pack of lies, it was truly masterful.

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

 

Yes, from the aspect of peddling a big pack of lies, it was truly masterful.

All politicians lie to some extent.

Biden's predecessor lies like you've never seen before.

On 3/9/2024 at 9:01 AM, LosLobo said:

 

 

I do understand from the OP that the thread is also about contrasting Biden to Trump and their attitudes to dictators.

Seems the OP has mischaracterised Trump as a 'strongman' in light of his proven fawning and weak-kneed-ness with Putin et alia.

Obviously by yesterday's SOTU performance of direct confrontation with dictator Putin and wannabee Trump, Biden is the real 'strongman'.
 

 

This imagined fawning and weakness is in your own troubled head. And who the hell is "alia".

 

Biden is as strong as paper plane in a gale and now most American know it.

On 3/9/2024 at 10:12 AM, ozimoron said:

 

Inflation dropping now while unemployment levels showing a healthy pull back allowing  a rate cut soon. MAGA talking points are drying up.

 

 

 

It is not falling any more. Rate cuts are like cans being kicked down the road. Bidenomics is a myth. 

On 3/9/2024 at 10:14 AM, Eric Loh said:

You are so dishonest. Have you read his whole speech. Where in his speech did he said he hate those who don’t disagree with him. In fact he was amicable and politely ask for all to join together and defend democracy. This is the extract from his speech. 
 

 As I’ve done ever since being elected to office, I ask you all, without regard to party, to join together and defend our democracy! 

 

He asks this but wants it for free and doesn't know how to achieve it.

On 3/9/2024 at 8:13 PM, Jingthing said:

Biden MUST build on the momentum of his massively successful speech. He doesn't need to run around and do Mussolini style tiki torch rallies like his maga fascist Putin Orban loving opponent, but he DOES need to be out there fairly often, all over the country, and continue to show the voters the version of Joe Biden they just saw. In other words, the WINNING a second term version. 

He does have reasonable leeway to actually be president though and that's the way it is for any incumbent. You need to do the job and campaign simultaneously. Exhausting? You betcha.

 

Massively successful? Yes if you grade it on number of lies told.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

All politicians lie to some extent.

Biden's predecessor lies like you've never seen before.

 

It's OK, stay off topic if you like.

Trump floats 'cutting' retirement spending, drawing quick pushback from Biden

Go,Dark Brandon!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-cutting-retirement-spending-drawing-quick-pushback-biden-rcna142776

Edited March 12, 20242 yr by earlinclaifornia

This is part of GOP's rebuttal of Biden's SOTU interlaced with SNL's parody...
 

 

On 3/11/2024 at 8:29 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Are you claiming that Biden didn't "boast about running up the deficit"? I watched it and he certainly did boast a lot about spending other people's money. Given that the US is apparently broke, it would add to the deficit.

Trump added Trump added $8 trillion

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-did-president-trump-add-debt

 

During President Biden’s first two years in office, the federal deficit shrank by $1.7 trillion dollars.

But the deficit is projected to roughly double this year, growing by a trillion dollars, 

https://time.com/6312431/joe-biden-touts-falling-deficit-as-it-jumps-back-up/

 

I am not very good at math so please help me out. 

Trump 8 trillion

Biden - 1.7 trillion 

           +1   trillion

Lets see carry the one.  bla bla bla 

Ohh .. these math thing hurts my head, you do the math. 

On 3/11/2024 at 1:39 PM, JonnyF said:

It's a pretty low bar when the ability to read a script for an hour is a vast improvement on what's gone before .

Even lower when you are deemed mentally unfit to face prosecution for the crime of espionage.

 

 

12 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Even lower when you are deemed mentally unfit to face prosecution for the crime of espionage.

 

 

The best part of your posted link was :

'Assuming he doesn’t lose a step in the next 8 months, last night President Biden re-established himself as a credible alternative to former President Trump. Sharp, feisty, confident, competent, watch for the polls to move Biden’s way. He ain’t dead yet'. 

Gerald Rivera

https://x.com/GeraldoRivera/status/1766151594230321431?s=20

 

Edited March 12, 20242 yr by LosLobo