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It will be Indians and or Chineese everywhere, depends how they manage to organize themselves the few next decades. Enemies have managed to build unions before and united.

 

No kids, no worries 

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2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It will be Indians and or Chineese everywhere, depends how they manage to organize themselves the few next decades. Enemies have managed to build unions before and united.

 

No kids, no worries 


I believe you’re correct.  Especially if the future decades follow the current trend.

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A global trend where couples prefer not to give birth due to hectic professional lifestyles, high inflation, lack of perspectives for their sibblings or due to agressive social mutations that shake in the traditionnal household gender balance and equilibrum of the previous era.

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36 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It will be Indians and or Chineese everywhere, depends how they manage to organize themselves the few next decades. Enemies have managed to build unions before and united.

 

No kids, no worries 

Don't underestimate Africa and it's potential on the middle term future.

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8 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Don't underestimate Africa and it's potential on the middle term future.

You are right, they will contribute to a new tomorrow. They remember the colonists with fresh memory, same as India

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Just now, Hummin said:

You are right, they will contribute to a new tomorrow. They remember the colonists with fresh memory,

Very true and I think there are already commencing the new tomorrow all over Europe mainly. Fair play.

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Same as in every country in the world since 2022. What is the explanation for this sudden and simultaneous wordlwide drop in fertility, across all continents and populations?

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4 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Same as in every country in the world since 2022. What is the explanation for this sudden and simultaneous wordlwide drop in fertility, across all continents and populations?

Condoms?

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59 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Same as in every country in the world since 2022. What is the explanation for this sudden and simultaneous wordlwide drop in fertility, across all continents and populations?

 

Any source for your statistic claim? Last I checked the population decline in many countries started much earlier than 2022. Oh and of course there are countries with population growth. Like India or the USA. Or the majority of countries actually. Don't take my word for it, check https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

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1 hour ago, eisfeld said:

 

Any source for your statistic claim? Last I checked the population decline in many countries started much earlier than 2022. Oh and of course there are countries with population growth. Like India or the USA. Or the majority of countries actually. Don't take my word for it, check https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

 

The marker seems to be 2022 in a lot of articles I have been reading. Here are a few examples, but there are a lot more:

Births in Italy heading for new record low in 2023 - stats office
In 2022 as a whole, births fell 1.7% to 393,000, a 14th consecutive drop and the lowest number since the country's unification in 1861.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/births-italy-heading-new-record-low-2023-stats-office-2023-10-26/

Why is Switzerland's birthrate declining so drastically?

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https://www.nzz.ch/english/why-is-switzerlands-birthrate-declining-so-drastically-ld.1772392

 

Fewer and Faster: Can We Stop the Global Fertility Collapse?
And yet Finland’s total fertility rate was 1.32 in 2022, the lowest birth rate since the country started keeping track in 1776.

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The strange thing with fertility is nobody really knows what’s going on.

https://www.aei.org/articles/fewer-and-faster-can-we-stop-the-global-fertility-collapse/

 

Births in Italy heading for new record low in 2023 - stats office

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/births-italy-heading-new-record-low-2023-stats-office-2023-10-26/

 

Among the countries confronted with this situation, China is facing perhaps the most severe challenges, with falling births already producing a decline in the overall population since 2022.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Child-care-subsidies-can-help-address-China-s-population-crisis

 

In 2022, Japan's overall fertility rate stood at 1.26 percent, well below the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) standard of 2.1 required for a stable population.

https://www.newsweek.com/japan-alarm-population-crisis-last-chance-1874181

 

Brazil census shows population growth at its slowest since 1872

"In 2022, the annual growth rate has been reduced to less than half of what it was in 2010 (1.17%)," census technical coordinator Luciano Duarte said in a statement.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-census-shows-population-growth-its-slowest-since-1872-2023-06-28/

 

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3 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

The marker seems to be 2022 in a lot of articles I have been reading. Here are a few examples, but there are a lot more:

Births in Italy heading for new record low in 2023 - stats office
In 2022 as a whole, births fell 1.7% to 393,000, a 14th consecutive drop and the lowest number since the country's unification in 1861.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/births-italy-heading-new-record-low-2023-stats-office-2023-10-26/

Why is Switzerland's birthrate declining so drastically?

 

 

https://www.nzz.ch/english/why-is-switzerlands-birthrate-declining-so-drastically-ld.1772392

 

Fewer and Faster: Can We Stop the Global Fertility Collapse?
And yet Finland’s total fertility rate was 1.32 in 2022, the lowest birth rate since the country started keeping track in 1776.

[...]

The strange thing with fertility is nobody really knows what’s going on.

https://www.aei.org/articles/fewer-and-faster-can-we-stop-the-global-fertility-collapse/

 

Births in Italy heading for new record low in 2023 - stats office

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/births-italy-heading-new-record-low-2023-stats-office-2023-10-26/

 

Among the countries confronted with this situation, China is facing perhaps the most severe challenges, with falling births already producing a decline in the overall population since 2022.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Child-care-subsidies-can-help-address-China-s-population-crisis

 

In 2022, Japan's overall fertility rate stood at 1.26 percent, well below the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) standard of 2.1 required for a stable population.

https://www.newsweek.com/japan-alarm-population-crisis-last-chance-1874181

 

Brazil census shows population growth at its slowest since 1872

"In 2022, the annual growth rate has been reduced to less than half of what it was in 2010 (1.17%)," census technical coordinator Luciano Duarte said in a statement.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-census-shows-population-growth-its-slowest-since-1872-2023-06-28/

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These do not support your claim.

 

Italies birth rate has declined much earlier than 2022. Their curve turned around 2015.

Switzerlands population is still growing steadily.

Japans curve inverted around 2010.

 

Here a graph for the whole population of our little blue ball including forecasts. I do not see any "sudden and simultaneous worldwide drop in fertility" as you claimed. Source: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

 

As usual, you are posting misinformation.

 

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14 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

 

These do not support your claim.

 

Italies birth rate has declined much earlier than 2022. Their curve turned around 2015.

Switzerlands population is still growing steadily.

Japans curve inverted around 2010.

 

Here a graph for the whole population of our little blue ball including forecasts. I do not see any "sudden and simultaneous worldwide drop in fertility" as you claimed. Source: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

 

As usual, you are posting misinformation.

 

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I am not denying fertility has been declining for many years, I am saying (and I am sure you understood me perfectly the first time) that it has crashed over the past couple of years. One wonders why you would refuse to acknowledge this plain fact.

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1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I am not denying fertility has been declining for many years, I am saying (and I am sure you understood me perfectly the first time) that it has crashed over the past couple of years. One wonders why you would refuse to acknowledge this plain fact.

 

Because what you claimed is simply not a fact. There is no worldwide sudden drop in fertility in 2022. I know exactly what you are trying to push for and will call you out on it. Simple.

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6 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

 

Because what you claimed is simply not a fact. There is no worldwide sudden drop in fertility in 2022. I know exactly what you are trying to push for and will call you out on it. Simple.

 

Yes there is, and those who deny it do so because they don't want to look for the reason.

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4 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

What is the explanation for this sudden and simultaneous wordlwide drop in fertility, across all continents and populations?

 

Kids are a pain in the arse and expensive.

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4 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Same as in every country in the world since 2022. What is the explanation for this sudden and simultaneous wordlwide drop in fertility, across all continents and populations?

Welfare and giving women choices.

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For a country who lives from one day to another, this is a useless prediction, what is most important to the Thai

government is how many tourists will come in 2084...

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11 minutes ago, noobexpat said:

 

Old men are a pain in the arse and cheap.

 

 

Yeah my kids drained my finances... thats why iam now cheap.

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14 hours ago, Hummin said:

It will be Indians and or Chineese everywhere, depends how they manage to organize themselves the few next decades. Enemies have managed to build unions before and united.

 

No kids, no worries 

Believe me, in Europe no Chineese or Indians but moslims, moslims and moslims.

....did I forget to say moslims?

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8 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Kids are a pain in the arse and expensive.

So are ladyboys

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14 hours ago, G_Money said:


I believe you’re correct.  Especially if the future decades follow the current trend.

Well maybe the Indians, as China is experiencing the very same thing! Much of the developed world seems to be in a decreased birth rate nowadays, just like Japan had to ask retirees to return to work as they are against immigration and lost too many folks who retired when the birthrate is negative.  Same with S. Korea according news reports.

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Noone above has mentioned that fertility - especially in males - is falling. Way down throughout the Western world and no doubt declining in China too.

 

This has nothing to do with contraception choices but is about health, diet and pesticides (ie lifestyle choices).

 

As to contraception choices & social change (eg equality for women), these have longterm effects - as the Chinese have suddenly realised. You can't correct it overnight, even if you could persuade a new generation of 19-year-olds to produce 3 children each (as the Chinese propaganda is now trying). And even in those countries where the birth rate is still above 2.1 (eg India & Black Africa), the birth rate is slowly declining.

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