British backpacker murderers make fresh appeal against sentence (video)

[Foreign Jim]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

David was naked when his body was recovered from the sea, The position of Hannahs body behind the rocks, in a dark and secluded spot, it's highly possible they were having sex and got disturbed. that area is know as 'king Rama rock', it's also possible that someone took offense at them disrespecting the K...  hence the ferocity of the attack!
. it's a shame the Samui Times was so desperate to pin it on a family she had links to rather than have an open mind on other possibilities....

how about Sean Mcanna, possibly a suspect, or at least a person of interst,put himself in the picture by claiming to been meeting David that night, used to sing and play guitar, had various cuts to his arms,  however SKY news (i believe) escorted him off the Island after his 'mafia' claim, in total disregard to the Thai police investigation, he subsequently vanished, last know to have been in Milan, it's a shame the Samui Times was so desperate to pin it on a family she had links to rather than have an open mind on other possibilities.

Sean Mcanna

 

At the risk of falling down the rabbit hole of this case, here is Sean. He is not a person of interest imho. He fled to save his own life.  Open mind? Other possibilities? You have an island of Thais who know the family who killed Hannah and David. You've got a suspect Fresh Milk fleeing in the middle of the night to create some fake alibi that he was tucked in a dorm room. LOL It's laughable. Anyway... I am turning this <deleted> off as it just conjurs up the same stupidity from 10 years ago.  

[Rickster]

We all know these kids were set up, the whole case has been a complete farce from start to finish. Everyone knows who actually did it but the usual protection of people in high regard get away with their sins. Corruption will always be the winner when money crosses hands and the poor haven't a leg to stand on....very sad 😔

[Tahoe]

Can't believe they called them 'Murderer's' in the headline and first sentence. When I first read the headline I thought this story was related to another case where the purpetrators were the actual murderers.

[mokwit]

4 hours ago, sabai-dee-man said:

 

I really don't understand the mentality of anyone who still supports that island. I've been asked to go numerous times, and recounted the events every time. I discourage anyone and everyone from ever going there.

Apparently there are two? main family groups running bars etc there and you can avoid supporting a certain family group by carefully selecting which establishments you patronise. The family that had a son gunned down in broad daylight are not believed to have been involved.

 

Drawing on info from the CSI whatever facebook here, not direct personal experience, but the point was made that by avoiding KT altogether you are punishing others who were not involved.

[Dolf]

2 hours ago, sungod said:

 

No, but they look alot like the young people in the PDFs battling the Tatmadaw day in day out.

 

Ridiculous comment based on a photo.

Silly boy.

[frank83628]

44 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Why are you so reluctant to even slightly entertain the possibility that the murder was committed by a Thai?

 

Do you have vested interests in Koh Tao?

 

bob.

i have not said anything regarding who did or didn't do it,.
I was there at the time and have followed it closely since.  i watched the whole thing unfold,  the media frenzy that descended on the Island, so much gossip and misinformation posted as facts, from press desperately trying to get the 'breaking news', The police should have controlled the situation properly and made official statements as and when the case unfolded.
the Island was never shut down, 4-6 boats had left Tao that morning carrying up to 1000 people, so potentially the murderer/s were long gone.
the dude you accuse was on CCTV in his Bangkok college at 9am the next morning, he gave dna, but was all dismissed as a 'cover up' by Samui Times and other internet Slueths as they already had their man and it couldn't possibly be anyone else.

 

[retarius]

On 4/2/2024 at 1:01 PM, Rampant Rabbit said:

wasnt it the headmans kid who did it then jumped on a boat to BKK "allegedly"

Yup, apparently, if my memory is correct they never even checked the guys phone to confirm his location not even interviewed him. 

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

the dude you accuse was on CCTV in his Bangkok college at 9am the next morning,

 

   Wasn't that faked ?

The video surfaced a few days later and the date stamp had been altered to make it appear that he was in BKK , as I recall .

   No one could contact him  for a few days after the murders and he suddenly appeared in BKK with a fake video/ fake time stamp

[Artisi]

23 hours ago, smedly said:

the thai population on that island know exactly who did it

Most of Thailand also know. 

[bob smith]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Wasn't that faked ?

The video surfaced a few days later and the date stamp had been altered to make it appear that he was in BKK , as I recall .

   No one could contact him  for a few days after the murders and he suddenly appeared in BKK with a fake video/ fake time stamp

exactly!

 

bob.

[Nick Carter icp]

14 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

i have not said anything regarding who did or didn't do it,.
I was there at the time and have followed it closely since.  i watched the whole thing unfold,  

 

 

   Do you remember the Scottish guy hiding in 7/11 on the night of the murders ?

He live streamed that the two suspects were chasing after him and that they were going to hang him /kill him and then claim it was the Scottish guy who murdered the two . He said that of hes found dead, then the real killers are blah blah blah

[frank83628]

42 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Apparently there are two? main family groups running bars etc there and you can avoid supporting a certain family group by carefully selecting which establishments you patronise. The family that had a son gunned down in broad daylight are not believed to have been involved.

 

Drawing on info from the CSI whatever facebook here, not direct personal experience, but the point was made that by avoiding KT altogether you are punishing others who were not involved.

there are way more than 2 families, which own whole sections of the Island, not just bars. they lease out buildings, land & houses to whomever want to live or set something up on Tao. 
you're are correct about A 'boycott' of Tao, it is quite pathetic in nature and certainly hasn't worked because the place has been full since before Christmas.

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you remember the Scottish guy hiding in 7/11 on the night of the murders ?

He live streamed that the two suspects were chasing after him and that they were going to hang him /kill him and then claim it was the Scottish guy who murdered the two . He said that of hes found dead, then the real killers are blah blah blah

i knew Sean personally, IMO he was an attention seeking c**k, he was a wannbe that was desperate to live on Tao, he used to claim he was big drug seller and owned bars to naive young tourists while hanginig around the pub crawl dressed as Jack Sparrow
the day of the murders i watched him walk round a bar asking various people if the police knew anything, personally i dont think he was invloved, but he sure was tryign to get involved, after claiming to have known David and was supposed have arranged to met him that night i think he should have at least been questioned. instead the press escorted him off the Island.

[Nick Carter icp]

30 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

the dude you accuse was on CCTV in his Bangkok college at 9am the next morning,

 

   Why are you spreading fake facts to cover for the two suspects ?

You must know that video was faked and why did he fake a video ?

[frank83628]

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Wasn't that faked ?

The video surfaced a few days later and the date stamp had been altered to make it appear that he was in BKK , as I recall .

   No one could contact him  for a few days after the murders and he suddenly appeared in BKK with a fake video/ fake time stamp

these stories all fall apart when scrutinised. ok, so if the family are so rich n powerful and well connected, why why incriminate themselves with a shoddy faked video? 
any flight logs of his plane to bangkok? 
where as on the other hand the B2 were at the scene, had Davids phone.... 
and ifor the record 'm not accusing anyone, just highlighting that it seems in desperation for it to be 1 person, other things are being ignored or goal posts moved to suit.

[Burma Bill]

On 4/2/2024 at 12:18 PM, webfact said:

who have consistently maintained their innocence, stated they have spent a decade behind bars for a crime they did not commit.

 I totally agree. DNA evidence on the hoe DID NOT MATCH either of the two Burmese lads. (wikipedia)

 

There was one UK citizen who witnessed the murder, a friend of David Williams, who suddenly left the island and Thailand for the UK. It was believed he was "forced" to leave suddenly, in fear of his life. Whatever, he was innocent even though an intial suspect, so I am not going to name him. It is in the link.

References:

 

Witheridge and Miller travelled and arrived on the island separately on 25 August. Witheridge was travelling with three other friends, and Miller with two others.^[11] The two met in Koh Tao while staying at the same hotel.^[7][12]

 

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh_Tao_murders}

 

He (police spokesman) also said it was unlikely that police would be able to detain Mr.............................. David William Miller's roommate on Koh Tao, but if new evidence emerges they would ask for the cooperation of British police. Mr........... may return to the United Kingdom as early as tonight........DNA of 12 people had been tested, including nine samples from Myanmar workers and one from ................ the roommate of male victim David William Miller. The tests found none of the DNA matched that collected from semen found in the female victim's body, ............... Police sources said Mr ..........  was stopped as he was about to leave Suvarnabhumi airport on Tuesday and placed under police questioning.

 

 https://www.posttoday.com/lifestyle/318590

Edited April 3 by Burma Bill
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[Phuket Pete]

Where are the human rights lawyers when they are really needed ? This is the work you are supposed to be doing, but I guess fighting for the rights of illegal immigrants and known criminals at the expense of the British Taxpayer is far more lucrative. Morally corrupt - Shame on you.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Phuket Pete said:

Where are the human rights lawyers when they are really needed ? This is the work you are supposed to be doing, but I guess fighting for the rights of illegal immigrants and known criminals at the expense of the British Taxpayer is far more lucrative. Morally corrupt - Shame on you.

Lawyers make easy money working for immigrants, who is going to work for something in an area where some folk are protected from all angles...🤗

[metisdead]

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[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

these stories all fall apart when scrutinised. ok, so if the family are so rich n powerful and well connected, why why incriminate themselves with a shoddy faked video? 
 

 

   The video Shaun posted showed the two Thai suspects at the scene , they were both seen on video on the night of the murder outside 7/11 chasing Shaun around trying to hang him and  he would have committed suicide because he was guilty of the murders (was the plan)

   They faked a video to provide as evidence in Court that they weren't there and they were in BKK.

I did ask you, why would they make a fake video with a fake date stamp ?

Reason being that they were on KT at the time of the murders and the fake videos provided them with an alibi 

   

[fxe1200]

We all do remember: Thai Pbs from September 23, 2014!!

 

http://harleys.de/Kohtao03.jpg

 

[Nick Carter icp]

David Miller from the UK was one of the people killed that night on Kao Tao 

Luke Miller also from the UK also died on Kao Tao in mysterious circumstances three years later .

It could be possible that the Kao Tao mafia were informed that a British young man with the surname the same as the deceased had arrived on the island and they may have thought that he was a family member seeking retribution .

   Luke was found dead at the bottom of a swimming pool with bruises on his body and no witnesses .

 

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3892236/luke-millers-family-accuse-thai-police-of-death-cover-up/

 

 

"Luke Miller death riddle takes another twist as Brit bricklayer’s family says Thai cops tried to cover up his Koh Tao death

Luke was found at the bottom of the pool in Thailand in January"

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, fxe1200 said:

We all do remember: Thai Pbs from September 23, 2014!!

 

http://harleys.de/Kohtao03.jpg

 

 

   And that Police officer was removed from the investigation a few days later and someone else took over the investigation and Suddenly the two brothers were no longer suspected of being involved 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The video Shaun posted showed the two Thai suspects at the scene , they were both seen on video on the night of the murder outside 7/11 chasing Shaun around trying to hang him and  he would have committed suicide because he was guilty of the murders (was the plan)

   They faked a video to provide as evidence in Court that they weren't there and they were in BKK.

I did ask you, why would they make a fake video with a fake date stamp ?

Reason being that they were on KT at the time of the murders and the fake videos provided them with an alibi 

   

so you believe Sean without even knowing him whatsoever? i know the dude personally, i guarantee you he is full of <deleted>
 

[frank83628]

51 minutes ago, fxe1200 said:

We all do remember: Thai Pbs from September 23, 2014!!

 

http://harleys.de/Kohtao03.jpg

 

lost in translation, he was questioned, not arrested, he was the owner of the land closest to where the bodies were found.

[Nick Carter icp]

56 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so you believe Sean without even knowing him whatsoever? i know the dude personally, i guarantee you he is full of <deleted>
 

 

   Are you claiming that the video footage is lying ?

You are telling untruths to cover for a murderer and keep two Burmese boys, well now Burmese Men in jail for a murder they didn't commit .

   You aren't in a position to point fingers at other people saying they are full of S**T

[frank83628]

50 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

David Miller from the UK was one of the people killed that night on Kao Tao 

Luke Miller also from the UK also died on Kao Tao in mysterious circumstances three years later .

It could be possible that the Kao Tao mafia were informed that a British young man with the surname the same as the deceased had arrived on the island and they may have thought that he was a family member seeking retribution .

   Luke was found dead at the bottom of a swimming pool with bruises on his body and no witnesses .

 

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3892236/luke-millers-family-accuse-thai-police-of-death-cover-up/

 

 

"Luke Miller death riddle takes another twist as Brit bricklayer’s family says Thai cops tried to cover up his Koh Tao death

Luke was found at the bottom of the pool in Thailand in January"

 

 

 

 

 

 

haha, here we go, out come the sensational Samui times stories .. 'he had the same sure name so was bumped off'. jog on 

 

[frank83628]

49 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Are you claiming that the video footage is lying ?

You are telling untruths to cover for a murderer and keep two Burmese boys, well now Burmese Men in jail for a murder they didn't commit .

   You aren't in a position to point fingers at other people saying they are full of <deleted>

 yea, knowing Sean as i do.. he's full of <deleted>. you keep on believing him if you want. if his life was in so much danger why did he sleep the night on a sofa in a very popular bar, in full view of any mafia hunting him down?? i was there..were you?

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

haha, here we go, out come the sensational Samui times stories .. 'he had the same sure name so was bumped off'. jog on 

 

 

   I said that "it could be possible" .

You misquoted me, you lied about what I said .

This is becoming a habit with you 

[Nick Carter icp]

46 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 yea, knowing Sean as i do.. he's full of <deleted>. you keep on believing him if you want. if his life was in so much danger why did he sleep the night on a sofa in a very popular bar, in full view of any mafia hunting him down?? i was there..were you?

 

   Was you there on the night of the murders ?

Were you actually there on the beach when they got killed ?

Did you see them being murdered ?