53 minutes ago, stevenl said:

 

 

 

As was to be expected, deflect away.

 

   Deflecting from what ?

Al Jazeera Shutdown - Israeli Cabinet Approves Closure of Al Jazeera's Facilities

 

Well, that is a bit more civilized than killing their reporters.  This one was in 2022

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/16/israeli-forces-killed-abu-akleh-without-justification-un-inquiry-says

 

3 hours ago, stevenl said:

 

 

 

As was to be expected, deflect away.

The truth is deflectio?

5 hours ago, stevenl said:

 

 

 

As was to be expected, deflect away.

How exactly was that deflection?

9 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Did they stop the BBC from reporting there? Why did the BBC decide to leave?

Was it because Israel shoots journalists  on sight if reporting the truth?  We well know the truth will not be tolerated when it comes to Israel otherwise journalists would be free to report what is actually going on in Gaza.  You only have to look at the unprecedented number of deaths of journalists in Gaza since the genocide began.

8 hours ago, stevenl said:

And now a raid on an Al Jazeera office in Jerusalem.

The truth will not be tolerated, it doesnt fit well with genocides!

Just now, ThaiFelix said:

The truth will not be tolerated, it doesnt fit well with genocides!

Nor does it fit well with muslims and their compromising of al jazeera as a terrorist rag... 

11 hours ago, CharlieH said:

This widely anticipated move might affect Israel's diplomatic ties with Qatar, which has been instrumental in mediating truce talks between Israel and Hamas. Journalism groups have criticized the closure as a setback for press freedom.

Which is IMO the reason for the closure. Qatar is trying to bring about an end to the conflict and netanyahu probably wants to keep it going as long as possible.

 

I saw him on tv ranting on about how if israel has to go it alone in the conflict they will do so. He may get his wish if he goes into Rafah with hundreds of thousands of casualties- alone, isolated, despised, pariah.

to me, this is a “bad look” so to speak.  Sure, few countries really WANT foreign media, in country, reporting on anything that essentially makes them look bad … that’s a pretty universal idea..

That said, to me, banning them like this, just adds to their credibility and allow them to now say “see! they didn’t want us to see X, Y and Z so they kicked us out”

This is not say what’s going on in country is right, wrong or otherwise- that’s a ver different discussion.. but as to the ACT of banning them from country goes, that to me just seems to be adding to Al Jazeera’s credibility and bolsters their claims..  I would have thought the government media relations arm would have tried harder to shape the narrative THEIR way and present that outwardly.. Sure, it’s unlikely that media like Al Jazeera would have taken the bait, but at least the government can avoid kicking them out and the negative PR that would come with it.

12 minutes ago, new2here said:

to me, this is a “bad look” so to speak.  Sure, few countries really WANT foreign media, in country, reporting on anything that essentially makes them look bad … that’s a pretty universal idea..

That said, to me, banning them like this, just adds to their credibility and allow them to now say “see! they didn’t want us to see X, Y and Z so they kicked us out”

This is not say what’s going on in country is right, wrong or otherwise- that’s a ver different discussion.. but as to the ACT of banning them from country goes, that to me just seems to be adding to Al Jazeera’s credibility and bolsters their claims..  I would have thought the government media relations arm would have tried harder to shape the narrative THEIR way and present that outwardly.. Sure, it’s unlikely that media like Al Jazeera would have taken the bait, but at least the government can avoid kicking them out and the negative PR that would come with it.

I doubt they care about negative PR, as they have Biden's word he'll cover for them no matter what.

11 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

This topic is about Israel banning Al Jazeera from Israel, not Gaza or West Bank

Don't be silly Gaza is related to the story Israel has now suppressed all reporting from Gaza so the IDF can continue it's genocidal rampage without any oversight. it's the true reason the station was shut down no journalists are allowed there.

2 minutes ago, RobU said:

Don't be silly Gaza is related to the story Israel has now suppressed all reporting from Gaza so the IDF can continue it's genocidal rampage without any oversight. it's the true reason the station was shut down no journalists are allowed there.

How? Al Jazeera reporters are still in Gaza just not Israel.

8 hours ago, stevenl said:

 

 

 

As was to be expected, deflect away.

trolling again I see

44 minutes ago, new2here said:

to me, this is a “bad look” so to speak.  Sure, few countries really WANT foreign media, in country, reporting on anything that essentially makes them look bad … that’s a pretty universal idea..

That said, to me, banning them like this, just adds to their credibility and allow them to now say “see! they didn’t want us to see X, Y and Z so they kicked us out”

This is not say what’s going on in country is right, wrong or otherwise- that’s a ver different discussion.. but as to the ACT of banning them from country goes, that to me just seems to be adding to Al Jazeera’s credibility and bolsters their claims..  I would have thought the government media relations arm would have tried harder to shape the narrative THEIR way and present that outwardly.. Sure, it’s unlikely that media like Al Jazeera would have taken the bait, but at least the government can avoid kicking them out and the negative PR that would come with it.

 

I think there is some confusion. Israel is not stopping Al Jazeera from reporting or denying them access to Gaza. They just see allowing them to operate inside Israel as a security risk, and because of that, have shut down their Israeli office. They are still free to go anywhere and report anything they like. 

 

The "genocide" is being perpetrated Gaza, not in Israel, yes? So, nothing is stopping them from continuing to report, they just need to relocate their base of operations. 

And America is saying that Israel is a democratic country? And China is not?

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How? Al Jazeera reporters are still in Gaza just not Israel.

By suppressing reporting from El Jazera to Israeli citizens the deeply unpopular government is trying to suppress anything that criticises it's policy

18 minutes ago, RobU said:

Don't be silly Gaza is related to the story Israel has now suppressed all reporting from Gaza so the IDF can continue it's genocidal rampage without any oversight. it's the true reason the station was shut down no journalists are allowed there.

Reporting will continue till israel manages to kill the last journalist. The reporters in Gaza are Gazans, and will not be leaving any time soon. I suppose the israelis will try blocking the internet and phone use.

Just now, RobU said:

By suppressing reporting from El Jazera to Israeli citizens the deeply unpopular government is trying to suppress anything that criticises it's policy

How is Israel "...suppressing reporting from El Jazera <sic> to Israeli citizens..."?

 

Do Israelis not have internet? 

6 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

And America is saying that Israel is a democratic country? And China is not?

IMO America leaders think we are all stupid enough to believe the lies about israel being democratic. Unfortunately western leaders are also lying about it, IMO.

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Reporting will continue till israel manages to kill the last journalist. The reporters in Gaza are Gazans, and will not be leaving any time soon. I suppose the israelis will try blocking the internet and phone use.

If they're going to kill all the reporters anyway, why announce the shutdown? They could just bomb it and claim it was hit by an Iranian missile.  

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO America leaders think we are all stupid enough to believe the lies about israel being democratic. Unfortunately western leaders are also lying about it, IMO.

Yes, everyone is lying, including the Israelis. The only people not lying is Hamas. 

9 minutes ago, RobU said:

By suppressing reporting from El Jazera to Israeli citizens the deeply unpopular government is trying to suppress anything that criticises it's policy

Really? Did it have a regular TV slot in Israel? They have not blocked it on internet so how does it affect Israeli citizens? 

 

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Really? Did it have a regular TV slot in Israel? They have not blocked it on internet so how does it affect Israeli citizens? 

 

 

Allowing Al Jazeera to have an office in Israel today, would be like allowing Völkischer Beobachter to have a London office in 1940. 
 

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Allowing Al Jazeera to have an office in Israel today, would be like allowing Völkischer Beobachter to have a London office in 1940. 
 

Agreed and considering Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Bahrain & Egypt had already banned Al Jazeera then Israel is a little late in the day doing so.

31 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Reporting will continue till israel manages to kill the last journalist. The reporters in Gaza are Gazans, and will not be leaving any time soon. I suppose the israelis will try blocking the internet and phone use.

Israel developed a local phone signal blocking system many years ago it is used in some cinemas and theatres and I suppose will be used by the IDF to block mobile phone signals during war crime activity so reporters cannot live stream events. 

Israel is no longer a democracy. Stop pretending otherwise. The orthodox, extremist fascists have taken over.

 

Don't allow a counter narrative of pro Israel news. Don't report on civilian casualties. Keep pretending you are not slaughtering women and children.

 

 “Israel’s ongoing suppression of the free press, seen as an effort to conceal its actions in the Gaza Strip, stands in contravention of international and humanitarian law,” the network said. “Israel’s direct targeting and killing of journalists, arrests, intimidation and threats will not deter Al Jazeera.”

 

I hate Hamas. But, I hate the disproportionate IDF response too. Perhaps Israel couldn't handle peace at home?

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel is no longer a democracy. Stop pretending otherwise. The orthodox, extremist fascists have taken over.

 

Don't allow a counter narrative of pro Israel news. Don't report on civilian casualties. Keep pretending you are not slaughtering women and children.

 

 “Israel’s ongoing suppression of the free press, seen as an effort to conceal its actions in the Gaza Strip, stands in contravention of international and humanitarian law,” the network said. “Israel’s direct targeting and killing of journalists, arrests, intimidation and threats will not deter Al Jazeera.”

 

I hate Hamas. But, I hate the disproportionate IDF response too. Perhaps Israel couldn't handle peace at home?

Do you believe that Völkischer Beobachter should have been allowed to have a London office in 1940?

 

Israel is not stopping Al Jazeera from reporting or restricting their movement in Gaza. You may be confused. 

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you believe that Völkischer Beobachter should have been allowed to have a London office in 1940?

 

Israel is not stopping Al Jazeera from reporting or restricting their movement in Gaza. You may be confused. 

You seem to be confused about the nations of a democracy. When freedom of the press is taken away, and the false flag of national security is used, you know morality, truth and ethics have gone out the window. Woe is Israel. 

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

You seem to be confused about the nations of a democracy. When freedom of the press is taken away, and the false flag of national security is used, you know morality, truth and ethics have gone out the window. Woe is Israel. 

Hyperbole much? Freedom of the press has not been shut down. 

 

Don't hear many complaints about the US government wanting to control media access and reporting. 

Oh, Israel gets hurt when All Jazeera shows pictures from that genocide, killing innocent Palestinians?

Well, then it's better to shut off, isn't it. What you can't see doesn't exist😵‍💫