AstraZeneca withdraws Covid-19 vaccine citing low demand

[mogandave]

5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

This is UK COVID deaths data by age group for the first two years of the pandemic:  The elderly made up the largest share of COVID deaths, but there were sizable deaths as well among several younger age groupings.

 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1291744/covid-19-deaths-in-the-united-kingdom-by-age-and-gender/

 

Keyword “involving”

 

How many deaths from covid, and how many of those had no comorbidity?

 

 No public data on that, huh?

 

[Robert Paulson]

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

Keyword “involving”

 

How many deaths from covid, and how many of those had no comorbidity?

 

 No public data on that, huh?

 

The average age of covid death is the real key. And of course it’s never reported

Edited May 11 by Robert Paulson

[Red Phoenix]

9 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

The average age of covid death is the real key. And of course it’s never reported

In UK the average age of covid death it is 80,3 years of age.

 

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/averageageofthosewhohaddiedwithcovid19

 

And this tells you all you need to know about the necessity of pushing the covid-jabs on the entire population...

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

No it doesn't.. And yes, the age of COVID deaths in the UK and elsewhere has been periodically reported, including in posts here on this  forum.

 

But none of that changes the fact that older people who die from COVID, on average, would have otherwise had years left to live, because those who actually survive into their 70s and 80s (absent COVID) have longer life expectancies on average than the overall population averages at large.

 

But, it is a common claim that COVID deniers make it order to falsely minimize the impact of the pandemic.

 

Average Covid-19 victim dies years before they otherwise would

What was claimed

The average age of Covid-19 deaths is higher than the average life expectancy, which means that people who get Covid live longer.

Our verdict

This isn’t how life expectancy works. Life expectancy is an average, pulled down by people who die young. As you age, your life expectancy increases. People dying from Covid-19 lose about a decade of life on average.

https://fullfact.org/news/boris-johnson-whatsapp-covid-life-expectancy-cummings/

 

[Red Phoenix]

8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

No it doesn't.. And yes, the age of COVID deaths in the UK and elsewhere has been periodically reported, including in posts here on this  forum.

 

But none of that changes the fact that older people who die from COVID, on average, would have otherwise had years left to live, because those who actually survive into their 70s and 80s (absent COVID) have longer life expectancies on average than the overall population averages at large.

 

But, it is a common claim that COVID deniers make it order to falsely minimize the impact of the pandemic.

 

If the common claim you are talking about is that

"The average age of Covid-19 deaths is higher than the average life expectancy, which means that people who get Covid live longer." 

that 'deduction' is indeed nonsense. 

And nobody on this Forum has claimed that.

What we DO claim is that the average age of Covid-19 deaths is very high (+80 years in UK).  

And that begs the question why the push to jab EVERYBODY irrespective of age and risk, considering the then unknown adverse effects of these jabs.

Cui bono (who profits) is the question that almost always leads to the motive behind seemingly unlogical or nonsensical actions. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

22 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

What we DO claim is that the average age of Covid-19 deaths is very high (+80 years in UK).  

And that begs the question why the push to jab EVERYBODY irrespective of age and risk, considering the then unknown adverse effects of these jabs.

Cui bono (who profits) is the question that almost always leads to the motive behind seemingly unlogical or nonsensical actions. 

 

Regarding the elderly:

 

Because even though in the UK the average age of a person dying from COVID has been high, the demographics show that those people would still have years left to live, on average, if they could be protected from dying prematurely from COVID.

 

Regarding the rest:

Because even though they have lower COVID death rates than the elderly, they still died from COVID in sizable numbers around the world. And protecting those people from dying prematurely from COVID (reducing their risks of COVID death) via vaccination gave them even more years to live by avoiding what otherwise would have been premature COVID deaths, on average.

 

As posted just a bit earlier in this thread:

 

 

Edited May 11 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Robert Paulson]

28 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

If the common claim you are talking about is that

"The average age of Covid-19 deaths is higher than the average life expectancy, which means that people who get Covid live longer." 

that 'deduction' is indeed nonsense. 

And nobody on this Forum has claimed that.

What we DO claim is that the average age of Covid-19 deaths is very high (+80 years in UK).  

And that begs the question why the push to jab EVERYBODY irrespective of age and risk, considering the then unknown adverse effects of these jabs.

Cui bono (who profits) is the question that almost always leads to the motive behind seemingly unlogical or nonsensical actions. 

Yes. And why on earth pray do tell someone of logic would there be different recommended vaccination ages between countries. I suppose the more enterprising countries have lower age threasholds? 

[Yellowtail]

12 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

This is UK COVID deaths data by age group for the first two years of the pandemic:  The elderly made up the largest share of COVID deaths, but there were sizable deaths as well among several younger age groupings.

 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1291744/covid-19-deaths-in-the-united-kingdom-by-age-and-gender/

 

So over 87% over 65