tamsam6 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, Moonlover said: Anyone who has any doubts about the negative impact that cannabis might have on mental and physical health of users, especially the young, should read this article. Cannabis legalization has led to a boom in potent forms of the drug that present new hazards for adolescents Interesting this article talks about alcohol and adolescents.. "The best analogy is with another drug – alcohol. Most people know that a 12-ounce beer is much less potent than 12 ounces of vodka. Cannabis in smoked form is closer to the beer, while a concentrate is more like the vodka. Neither is safe for an adolescent, but one is even more dangerous." Why not examine the effects of alcohol on adolescents too. Yet they still sell that.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamsam6 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, Moonlover said: Anyone who has any doubts about the negative impact that cannabis might have on mental and physical health of users, especially the young, should read this article. Cannabis legalization has led to a boom in potent forms of the drug that present new hazards for adolescents Interesting this article talks about alcohol and adolescents.. "The best analogy is with another drug – alcohol. Most people know that a 12-ounce beer is much less potent than 12 ounces of vodka. Cannabis in smoked form is closer to the beer, while a concentrate is more like the vodka. Neither is safe for an adolescent, but one is even more dangerous." Why not examine the effects of alcohol on adolescents too. Yet they still sell that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 (edited) 13 minutes ago, rattlesnake said: Exactly, things are dangerous enough in "normal" conditions, but sure, let's encourage them to use psychotropic substances, what could possibly go wrong? Magic mushies. Psychotropic? Yes. LSD. Psychotropic? Yes. Dope. Psychotropic? No. Well none I've ever had and I've smoked and eaten some pretty strong stuff. Edited May 14 by dinsdale 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 57 minutes ago, UWEB said: For what??? To take cannabis off the market🙏🙏🙏 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, zyphodb said: Funny that, I and most of my friends who started smoking weed,dropping mushrooms etc. at 14/15 years didn't develop any mental health problems. A healthy disrespect for governments and the system in general, yes... And IMO thats the reason most govs want to keep it banned. Quite the contrary, it's legalised (or planned to be) by more and more governments throughout the world. A stoned population is easier to control. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, JoePai said: Everyone agrees the taking of cannabis can cause health problems but so do other “drugs” like tobacco and alcohol so why are they not being classified as a scheduled narcotics ? It is a problem when it is presented as the miracle drug, and it becomes "legal" over the night without any further guidelines. Introducing potent weed to a totally new group of people who most likely never would had used it if it was not "legalized" as it have been now, which hae led to abuse and neglecting the original idea of sale and use, which was legalized for medical use and not recreational use. Edited May 14 by Hummin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 minutes ago, AustinRacing said: Wait a minute. Farmers complaining about loss in profit since it was decriminalized? How were they growing it when it was criminalized? This is about a flooded market (one could say a healthy market) and reduction in prices and profits. Thought that would be obvious. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Magic mushies. Psychotropic? Yes. LSD. Psychotropic? Yes. Dope. Psychotropic? No. Well none I've ever had and I've smoked and eaten some pretty strong stuff. psychotropic substance: A drug or other substance that affects how the brain works and causes changes in mood, awareness, thoughts, feelings, or behavior. Examples of psychotropic substances include alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, marijuana, and certain pain medicines. https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/psychotropic-substance I prefer to use "psychoactive" actually. It seems you are one of those who can control it. Many don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, watchcat said: I've never had sex after a joint. zzzz That you can remember! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trippy Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, smedly said: the last people to know they are psychotic are people suffering from psychosis The first people to know that someone is full of it, is the people that have to smell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UWEB Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 14 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: To take cannabis off the market🙏🙏🙏 Strange that people drinking 5 bottles of Beer every day but never smoked a Joint are commenting here. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: The facts are from medical experts and scientists. Not sellers and smokers. Yet the deniers keep complaining and scream 'alcohol, alcohol, alcohol'. No the "facts" are by no means that clear - those who "instinctively" want to banned drugs have always made claims like this but there just isn't any substantial evidence to support this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UWEB Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, watchcat said: I've never had sex after a joint. zzzz You truly missed out something 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco51 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, JoePai said: Everyone agrees the taking of cannabis can cause health problems but so do other “drugs” like tobacco and alcohol so why are they not being classified as a scheduled narcotics ? Very simple : the Chinese approve of both and make loads of money on those, especially save old age pensions promoting chain smoking the cheapest of mattress weed in paper rolls. Cannabis however can create free thinking and the will to dress, behave, think freely, be artistic, in one word be a free, mellow individual. We can't have that there and the local emotionally challenged spooks agree fully, people should work, have kids , get pissed on monopoly drink, pay taxes , work, pay taxes, buy condo, pay more taxes, splash water and noise, work more , be happy with 600 Baht pensions......a smoke of dreams can only be in the way. I hate to admit it but I almost miss general P. and the cucumber troop. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 29 minutes ago, rattlesnake said: psychotropic substance: A drug or other substance that affects how the brain works and causes changes in mood, awareness, thoughts, feelings, or behavior. Examples of psychotropic substances include alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, marijuana, and certain pain medicines. https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/psychotropic-substance I prefer to use "psychoactive" actually. It seems you are one of those who can control it. Many don't. Yes. Psychoactive and psychotropic are different. Other psychoactive drugs can include alcohol, caffeine and nicotine for example. Way too many people on this thread that push the demonising narrative with very little knoweledge of what their talking about. Edited May 14 by dinsdale 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 hours ago, webfact said: Cannabis, while not solely responsible, has been consistently linked to the onset of psychosis, mental disorders, and even more severe conditions. Alarmingly, suicidal thoughts are reported among regular users as well this is simply misleading - there is very little proper research into this and the claims are repeatedly made without any substantiation - knowing that is you repeat something often enough, it becomes "true". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzupnow Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, JoePai said: Everyone agrees the taking of cannabis can cause health problems but so do other “drugs” like tobacco and alcohol so why are they not being classified as a scheduled narcotics ? to many drunks and smokers in the goverment 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Forever Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said: Oh btw, you are aware that the same medical experts and scientists approved it to become legalized right? LOLLL No they didn't. Show me the input that North Shore University New York, Lancet Psychiatry and the Institute on Drug Abuse had in Thai legislation on weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 minutes ago, UWEB said: Strange that people drinking 5 bottles of Beer every day but never smoked a Joint are commenting here. And what has beer to do with cannabis?😳 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, sabai-dee-man said: Yes, exactly. He dabbled a bit on occasion "for medicinal reasons", but I came back at the end of 2022 to find him skiving off work and sitting in weed bars continuously. 6 months later the job was gone, 9 months later the house was gone. He couldn't even be arsed to rent the house out as an AirBnB. Totally lost the will to be a productive member of society. As for friend #2, he openly admits himself, smoking dope absolutely led him on to hard drugs. Believe what you want. It makes no odds to me. what utter twaddle, using weed to avoid accountability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, dinsdale said: I agree except for the alcohol bit. You can drink yourself to death. A mate commited suicide this way. A lot of the old farangs where I live drank themselves to death jing jing 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Yes. Psychoactive and psychotropic are different. Other psychoactive drugs can include alcohol, caffine and nicotine for example. Way too many people on this thread that push the demonising narrative with very little knoweledge of what their talking about. I don't take this personally but just to be clear, I can assure you I know what I am talking about. One thing I consistently notice on weed threads is how hostile the weed proponents are towards criticism. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, Moonlover said: Anyone who has any doubts about the negative impact that cannabis might have on mental and physical health of users, especially the young, should read this article. Cannabis legalization has led to a boom in potent forms of the drug that present new hazards for adolescents In just 2 minutes I found articles in medical journals that state the contrary !!! https://www.health.com/condition/chronic-pain/marijuana-benefits-risks https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK425767/ https://www.news-medical.net/news/20240404/Study-shows-positive-impact-of-medical-marijuana-laws-on-mental-health.aspx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Tyrrell Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 RUBBISH !! What about the poision Lokal whiskey killing people or it seems mental health should protect Thai youth where its not uncommon to see under age going to the village shops to buy beer for the parents and adults !! Thailands has one of the highest road alcahol related fatalities globally !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 minutes ago, rattlesnake said: I don't take this personally but just to be clear, I can assure you I know what I am talking about. One thing I consistently notice on weed threads is how hostile the weed proponents are towards criticism. When people criticise dope calling it a psychotropic drug then these people are uneducated to the facts. Education is a good thing but when pointed out it's responded to with negative comments. There is and I'll say it again there is no scientic evidence that dope should be reclassified as a type5 narcotic and hence recriminalised. It's political and it's Thaksin. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UWEB Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 20 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: And what has beer to do with cannabis?😳 Both are drugs, but better stoned then drunken. If Putin and Zelensky have had a nice Joint for sure there wouldn't be a war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 If people want to smoke it let them, upto them, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub2022 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 One thing is for sure: I've never seen so many young people (falang) collapsing on the floor clearly because of drugs/alcohol mix and abuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spock Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, smedly said: so does this make it right to legalize?, as I have said many times - there is already a problem with alcohol on Thailands roads, we don't need another one. and I have seen the long term effects on mental heath from prolific use and it is disturbing. I really don't object to sensible occasional use or medical use but what is going on now with full commercial access is the wrong direction, sorry PS - plus I hate the smell - it stinks You must have only recently discovered SEA and the pleasures it offers. You obviously weren't a regular in the 60s and 70s. You've seen the effects have you in your very limited experience of the drug? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spock Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, proton said: Three old friends who kept it up daily all their adult life's are long dead, all with brain hemorrhages. What a fool you are making of yourself! I'm 71 and been around weed all my life and one side effect I have never ever seen or heard of is brain haemorrhaging, particularly people dying from it. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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