UK Murder Motivated by Gaza Conflict Results in Life Sentence for Moroccan Asylum-Seeker

[Social Media]

 

Ahmed Ali Alid, a 45-year-old Moroccan asylum-seeker, has been sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 44 years for the murder of Terence Carney, a 70-year-old grandfather. Alid's attack, driven by motivations linked to the Gaza conflict, also included an attempted murder and assaults on police officers.

 

On October 15, Alid, who had previously claimed asylum in the UK, prowled the streets of Hartlepool with the intent to kill. His first victim was his housemate, Javed Nouri, a 31-year-old Iranian asylum seeker and Christian convert. Alid broke into Nouri's bedroom at 5 a.m., brandishing two kitchen knives and stabbing him in the chest. Nouri managed to fend off Alid, suffering severe injuries in the process.

 

After failing to kill Nouri, Alid took to the streets where he encountered Terence Carney. CCTV footage showed Carney, who was on an early morning walk, being repeatedly stabbed by Alid. Carney, described as a "defenceless" and "beloved" husband, father, and grandfather, was stabbed six times in the chest, abdomen, and back.

 

During his trial at Teesside Crown Court, the prosecution argued that Alid's actions were acts of terrorism, motivated by his desire to retaliate against perceived injustices in Gaza and to influence the British government's foreign policy. Alid himself admitted to the police that his actions were "for the people of Gaza" and that he intended to kill more people. Prosecution lawyer Jonathan Sandiford said Alid had told police that “if he had had a machine gun and more weapons, he would have killed more victims.”

 

Mrs. Justice Cheema-Grubb, who presided over the case, described Alid's actions as a terrorist act intended to intimidate and influence the British government. She noted that Alid had no history of mental illness and that his attacks were premeditated and politically motivated. “You attacked and murdered Terence Carney in a terrorist act. You intended it as revenge for the actions of a foreign country, Israel, and to intimidate and influence the British government in its international relations. You hoped to frighten the people of Britain and to undermine the freedoms they enjoy,” said the judge during sentencing.

 

Alid's arrest was captured on footage showing armed police ordering him to "get down on the ground," with laser dots from their guns trained on him. Despite initial resistance, he was detained and later attacked two female officers during his police interview, shouting "Palestine" and "Allahu Akbar."

 

Alid's violent spree was cut short thanks to the swift action of the police and the bravery of his housemates. Nouri, who had alerted the police about Alid's suspicious behavior days before the attack, had to relocate from Hartlepool due to the psychological trauma inflicted by the event. In his victim impact statement, Nouri expressed his disillusionment, stating, “All my thoughts of here being a safe country have gone. I would expect to be executed for converting to Christianity in my home country. But I did not expect to be attacked in my sleep here.”

 

Carney’s family, in their statement, mourned the loss of a beloved family member and thanked Nouri and others for their courage in testifying. “We would not want anyone else to have to go through what we have had to go through over the last six months, and what we will continue to go through for the rest of our lives. For us, things will never be the same again. We can take some small comfort in knowing that justice has been served,” they said.

 

The case has highlighted issues surrounding the asylum process and the challenges in identifying and managing individuals who may pose a threat. Alid had entered the UK in 2020 after traveling through several European countries. Despite warnings about his behavior, he was not adequately monitored.

 

Justice Cheema-Grubb's decision not to impose a whole-life term, despite acknowledging the terroristic nature of Alid’s crimes, underscores the complexity of legal responses to such acts of violence. Alid’s sentence includes 44 years for murder and a concurrent 19-year term for attempted murder, with additional assaults on police officers considered.

 

This case serves as a grim reminder of the potential for international conflicts to fuel domestic acts of terror and the ongoing need for vigilance and effective law enforcement to prevent such tragedies.

 

 

Credit: Sky News 2024-05-18

 

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[Stargeezr]

Only 44 years for this murder, plus another attempted murder. Maybe the UK should still have a death sentence

for these kinds of first degree murderers. In My Opinion anyway.

 

[milesinnz]

what better advertisement can there be, for the incompetence of UK governments for allowing this sort of trash into the UK..

 

will this change anything. I doubt it, it will be business as usual.

 

Poland manages to secure it's borders and they have land borders .. so how can they keep this sort of trash out, but the UK cannot ?

[milesinnz]

"This case serves as a grim reminder of the potential for international conflicts to fuel domestic acts of terror and the ongoing need for vigilance and effective law enforcement to prevent such tragedies."...

 

simple... KEEP THESE PEOPLE OUT.. is this "Rocket science" ???.. guess it is to UK politicians...

[Denim]

7 minutes ago, Stargeezr said:

Maybe the UK should still have a death sentence

for these kinds of first degree murderers. In My Opinion anyway.

 

Sadly,  I agree with you. Violent crime and stabbings are becoming almost daily occurrences these days .

 

Locking someone away for the rest of their lives seems to be no deterant these days.

 

 

[Geoffggi]

He has his wish; he now gets to stay in the UK - What a waste of money !!!!

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, milesinnz said:

what better advertisement can there be, for the incompetence of UK governments for allowing this sort of trash into the UK..

 

will this change anything. I doubt it, it will be business as usual.

 

Poland manages to secure it's borders and they have land borders .. so how can they keep this sort of trash out, but the UK cannot ?

Letting him in was one thing, allowing him to stay was something completely different.

 

Had his asylum application been dealt with in anything like a timely manner it would have been rejected, he would have been deported and his victim would still be alive.

 

 

[simple1]

1 hour ago, milesinnz said:

what better advertisement can there be, for the incompetence of UK governments for allowing this sort of trash into the UK..

 

will this change anything. I doubt it, it will be business as usual.

 

Poland manages to secure it's borders and they have land borders .. so how can they keep this sort of trash out, but the UK cannot ?

 

Poland has a significant refugee / asylum seeker intake. 

 

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/POL/poland/refugee-statistics#:~:text=Poland refugee statistics for 2022,a 1.3% increase from 2018.

 

As per the OP unfortunately there appears to have been a failure with UK security services as they had been warned about the OP killer.

[koolkarl]

And every time I go in an airport, I am reminded of this group.  Japan, S. Korea, etc. have the answer, never let them in, in the first place.

[herfiehandbag]

Out in 10 no doubt.

[newbee2022]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

Ahmed Ali Alid, a 45-year-old Moroccan asylum-seeker, has been sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 44 years for the murder of Terence Carney, a 70-year-old grandfather. Alid's attack, driven by motivations linked to the Gaza conflict, also included an attempted murder and assaults on police officers.

 

On October 15, Alid, who had previously claimed asylum in the UK, prowled the streets of Hartlepool with the intent to kill. His first victim was his housemate, Javed Nouri, a 31-year-old Iranian asylum seeker and Christian convert. Alid broke into Nouri's bedroom at 5 a.m., brandishing two kitchen knives and stabbing him in the chest. Nouri managed to fend off Alid, suffering severe injuries in the process.

 

After failing to kill Nouri, Alid took to the streets where he encountered Terence Carney. CCTV footage showed Carney, who was on an early morning walk, being repeatedly stabbed by Alid. Carney, described as a "defenceless" and "beloved" husband, father, and grandfather, was stabbed six times in the chest, abdomen, and back.

 

During his trial at Teesside Crown Court, the prosecution argued that Alid's actions were acts of terrorism, motivated by his desire to retaliate against perceived injustices in Gaza and to influence the British government's foreign policy. Alid himself admitted to the police that his actions were "for the people of Gaza" and that he intended to kill more people. Prosecution lawyer Jonathan Sandiford said Alid had told police that “if he had had a machine gun and more weapons, he would have killed more victims.”

 

Mrs. Justice Cheema-Grubb, who presided over the case, described Alid's actions as a terrorist act intended to intimidate and influence the British government. She noted that Alid had no history of mental illness and that his attacks were premeditated and politically motivated. “You attacked and murdered Terence Carney in a terrorist act. You intended it as revenge for the actions of a foreign country, Israel, and to intimidate and influence the British government in its international relations. You hoped to frighten the people of Britain and to undermine the freedoms they enjoy,” said the judge during sentencing.

 

Alid's arrest was captured on footage showing armed police ordering him to "get down on the ground," with laser dots from their guns trained on him. Despite initial resistance, he was detained and later attacked two female officers during his police interview, shouting "Palestine" and "Allahu Akbar."

 

Alid's violent spree was cut short thanks to the swift action of the police and the bravery of his housemates. Nouri, who had alerted the police about Alid's suspicious behavior days before the attack, had to relocate from Hartlepool due to the psychological trauma inflicted by the event. In his victim impact statement, Nouri expressed his disillusionment, stating, “All my thoughts of here being a safe country have gone. I would expect to be executed for converting to Christianity in my home country. But I did not expect to be attacked in my sleep here.”

 

Carney’s family, in their statement, mourned the loss of a beloved family member and thanked Nouri and others for their courage in testifying. “We would not want anyone else to have to go through what we have had to go through over the last six months, and what we will continue to go through for the rest of our lives. For us, things will never be the same again. We can take some small comfort in knowing that justice has been served,” they said.

 

The case has highlighted issues surrounding the asylum process and the challenges in identifying and managing individuals who may pose a threat. Alid had entered the UK in 2020 after traveling through several European countries. Despite warnings about his behavior, he was not adequately monitored.

 

Justice Cheema-Grubb's decision not to impose a whole-life term, despite acknowledging the terroristic nature of Alid’s crimes, underscores the complexity of legal responses to such acts of violence. Alid’s sentence includes 44 years for murder and a concurrent 19-year term for attempted murder, with additional assaults on police officers considered.

 

This case serves as a grim reminder of the potential for international conflicts to fuel domestic acts of terror and the ongoing need for vigilance and effective law enforcement to prevent such tragedies.

 

 

Credit: Sky News 2024-05-18

 

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It is a challenge how to protect our countries but also to be open for asylum seekers. As long there are wars in the world there will be always asylum seekers. So our challenge is to stop wars and make the life in poor countries livable. Not by exploiting like in colonial times but to pay back our debts by investments and developing these countries. And as long we have poverty people will come to us to have even a small slice of life. So let them have education, let them learn how to integrate, let them get jobs and let them pay taxes subsequently. (The uncontrolled wave of migrants in 2015 to Germany should be a warning!)🙏

[brianthainess]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Letting him in was one thing, allowing him to stay was something completely different.

 

Had his asylum application been dealt with in anything like a timely manner it would have been rejected, he would have been deported and his victim would still be alive.

 

 

But he would have murdered people wherever he was, he is a complete nutter, the reasons he had for killing people was completely void of any rational thinking. He is Celibate and hated the thought of people having sex, Lets hope he drops the soap. 

[Humpy]

So the UK Taxpayer will be funding this walking dog vomit's 44 year stay in one of UK's 4 star prisons...... free mobile phone/Wifi.... three meals a day.. free healthcare    etc etc well done UK .

[roquefort]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Letting him in was one thing, allowing him to stay was something completely different.

 

Had his asylum application been dealt with in anything like a timely manner it would have been rejected, he would have been deported and his victim would still be alive.

 

 

You seriously overestimate the competence of the UK government in removing failed asylum seekers.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/fewer-than-half-of-failed-asylum-seekers-are-removed-from-the-uk-study-says-11603672

[riclag]

5 hours ago, koolkarl said:

And every time I go in an airport, I am reminded of this group.  Japan, S. Korea, etc. have the answer, never let them in, in the first place.

I agree with your opinion  . Since the left has taken over The management of our countries borders their attempts at a utopia are destroying every country’s  ability “to be”.  But the leader of the free world would think you’re xenophobic!

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/02/politics/biden-japan-xenophobic-us-ally/index.html

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, roquefort said:

You seriously overestimate the competence of the UK government in removing failed asylum seekers.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/fewer-than-half-of-failed-asylum-seekers-are-removed-from-the-uk-study-says-11603672

I absolutely do not.

 

This Government cut funding to the asylum clearance service and is right now cutting staff the very program they say will fix the problem:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/14/home-office-department-processing-rwanda-deportations-told-to-cut-jobs

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

I agree with your opinion  . Since the left has taken over The management of our countries borders their attempts at a utopia are destroying every country’s  ability “to be”.  But the leader of the free world would think you’re xenophobic!

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/02/politics/biden-japan-xenophobic-us-ally/index.html

The UK borders are under the management of the UK’s rightwing Government.

 

You might have missed it, but taking back control of UK borders was a very specific policy of the UK Government.

 

They had control, now they’ve completely lost it.

[Anant72]

9 hours ago, Stargeezr said:

Only 44 years for this murder, plus another attempted murder. Maybe the UK should still have a death sentence

for these kinds of first degree murderers. In My Opinion anyway.

 

A death sentence would have made him a “martyr”(a word that has lost its meaning, nevertheless). A slow death in prison is better suited. Only drawback: the UK taxpayer will have to pay for his grub and litter. In France, today, they would have found extenuating circumstances and lock him up for a short while in a psychiatric asylum where he would have escaped or from where he would have been released on his own cognizance. No mention of course would have been made of his name or ethnicity for fear of vociferous accusations of islamophobia from the left. 

 

 

[transam]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Letting him in was one thing, allowing him to stay was something completely different.

 

Had his asylum application been dealt with in anything like a timely manner it would have been rejected, he would have been deported and his victim would still be alive.

 

 

Oh, so again you blame the UK, not the people you support who come to the UK and kill......

Enoch was right...........

[newbee2022]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

I agree with your opinion  . Since the left has taken over The management of our countries borders their attempts at a utopia are destroying every country’s  ability “to be”.  But the leader of the free world would think you’re xenophobic!

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/02/politics/biden-japan-xenophobic-us-ally/index.html

Not only the leaders would think that. Me too🙏

[riclag]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Oh, so again you blame the UK, not the people you support who come to the UK and kill......

Enoch was right...........

Brilliantly executed 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The UK borders are under the management of the UK’s rightwing Government.

You might have missed it, but taking back control of UK borders was a very specific policy of the UK Government.

They had control, now they’ve completely lost it.

 

    The Left Wing have spent years and years trying to stop the Government  deporting illegal immigrants , taking legal action to keep them in the U.K.

   Now that one of those immigrants has committed murder and Left wing say with a straight face "Its the Governments fault for not deporting them *

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Oh, so again you blame the UK, not the people you support who come to the UK and kill......

Enoch was right...........

No, I don’t ‘blame the UK’.

 

Pointing out the part the abject failure of the current government and the part that failure had in leaving the killer in the UK is not ‘blaming the UK.

 

Far from it, the UK deserves better than this serial failure Government.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    The Left Wing have spent years and years trying to stop the Government  deporting illegal immigrants , taking legal action to keep them in the U.K.

   Now that one of those immigrants has committed murder and Left wing say with a straight face "Its the Governments fault for not deporting them *

What?

 

The Rightwing Government have been in power for over 14 years.

 

The period over which they lost control of the UK’s borders.

*Had the Tory Government not stripped funding out of the asylum assessment system this killer would have been deported long before he killed.

 

But go ahead, point fingers at ‘the left’.

 

It’s always somebody else’s fault.

 

 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, I don’t ‘blame the UK’.

 

Pointing out the part the abject failure of the current government and the part that failure had in leaving the killer in the UK is not ‘blaming the UK.

 

Far from it, the UK deserves better than this serial failure Government.

 

 

It's all you do, blame the UK for everything, no matter what the subject is, but a nice dodge attempt.........

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, transam said:

It's all you do, blame the UK for everything, no matter what the subject is, but a nice dodge attempt.........

Except it isn’t.

 

Sorry you are feeling so fragile Transam.

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What?

 

The Rightwing Government have been in power for over 14 years.

 

The period over which they lost control of the UK’s borders.

*Had the Tory Government not stripped funding out of the asylum assessment system this killer would have been deported long before he killed.

 

But go ahead, point fingers at ‘the left’.

 

It’s always somebody else’s fault.

 

 

Well, you, a lefty, would say that.............

 

It will be very funny if your Angela Rayner ever has to control the country.......😂

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Except it isn’t.

 

Sorry you are feeling so fragile Transam.

 

Me, fragile, don't be daft, you forget, I have read your anti-Brit stuff for years.....😉

[Chomper Higgot]

29 minutes ago, transam said:

Me, fragile, don't be daft, you forget, I have read your anti-Brit stuff for years.....😉

Then you’ll have no problem providing a quote from me criticizing the ‘British’ or ‘Britons’ rather than this criticizing this failing Tory Government.

 

Give it your best go.

 

 

 

[Wobblybob]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Then you’ll have no problem providing a quote from me criticizing the ‘British’ or ‘Britons’ rather than this criticizing this failing Tory Government.

 

Give it your best go.

 

 

 

I agree with you that this is a "failing Tory Government" however they are still better than what Labour has to offer. The UK has no credible government in waiting and all the UK is left with is Hobsons Choice. Angela Raynor as deputy leader......what can possibly go wrong. 🥴