Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[transam]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

after the lies of the WMDS etc, i am skeptical when it comes to western media and its obvious. yes, i agree, Blaire, bush etc should all be prisoned, but they never will be, i find it hypothetical when western media attacks a leader of an 'enemy' country and suggests that they are war criminals or oppressing/killing their own people when the US led wars have killed and displaced 100 of millions over recent history and their leaders & politicians walk freely... some earning millions for speaking events and book deals. 

 

i think its also hypocritical to to call Russias narrative FACTUALLY WRONG and MORALLY WRONG when the US, uk and nato have so much blood on their hands. ask Libyans how they feel about 'the west', pretty sure they'd side with Putin & Russia over US & UK.

 

at th end of the day Putin has he reasons, gave warnings, US & nato ignored it and the war started. could have end after a couple of months but the negotiations were stopped by Boris Johnson, thats is a fact!

, whats not talked about is all the resources  Ukraine sits on, that will being going to all the US corps and others that gave aid, Ukrainian citizens will not benefit whatsoever the country will be in debt forever.... but Putins bad and must be eradicated!

 

 

 

 

Good morning Red bloke, when are you off to Russia for your new life with your hero and all those Red trimmings.............

Oh, whilst you're here, why did Finland join NATO....?  🤔

[BarraMarra]

On 7/26/2024 at 5:27 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Ironic that! I believe the French haven't won a war since Waterloo, so back bone isn't enough on it's own, apparently.

 

Not that I think fat British boys would do much better these days.

Well our fat boys sent the Argies packing back to Buenos Airies didn't we Thaibeach ?

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Good morning Red bloke, when are you off to Russia for your new life with your hero and all those Red trimmings.............

Oh, whilst you're here, why did Finland join NATO....?  🤔

hello Krusty, not going to Russia, i told you, i like the sun, sea and Thai life. i call Vlad now n again to catch up.

 

did the Finish people get asked? now they have to give 4.2b to line pockets of defense contractors CEOs & directors and also have to be drawn into any future US wars..

[transam]

Just now, frank83628 said:

hello Krusty, not going to Russia, i told you, i like the sun, sea and Thai life. i call Vlad now n again to catch up.

 

did the Finish people get asked? now they have to give 4.2b to line pockets of defense contractors CEOs & directors and also have to be drawn into any future US wars..

I will ask again, WHY did Finland join NATO.........? Forget the dodges, WHY.....?

 

If you cannot answer my question, stand down, weeeelllll, you should do that anyway, for obvious reasons......😬

[BarraMarra]

On 7/26/2024 at 7:20 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Then he should get his scribbles proof read by an English speaker. If I was trying to write in a second language I'd get a native speaker to check it- not rocket science.

 

I never claimed to know everything, but I know the military having been in one for over a decade, and I know correct terminology, for the most part.

I bet you were a Special Forces member now living in Thailand lol.

[frank83628]

Just now, transam said:

I will ask again, WHY did Finland join NATO.........? Forget the dodges, WHY.....?

 

If you cannot answer my question, stand down, weeeelllll, you should do that anyway, for obvious reasons......😬

because their politicians are weak and bow down to the US, as have tmost of EU and Australian. have you ever spoke to a Finnish person about their views? i have many Finnish friends, quite a few say the same, but i guess they'd probably be called reds too by you.

[Bkk Brian]

39 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

because their politicians are weak and bow down to the US, as have tmost of EU and Australian. have you ever spoke to a Finnish person about their views? i have many Finnish friends, quite a few say the same, but i guess they'd probably be called reds too by you.

82% of Finns wanted to join NATO. They got what they wanted and the Russians are not happy. 4 April 2023. Finland has a 1,340-kilometre (830 mi) border with Russia...

[frank83628]

37 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

82% of Finns wanted to join NATO. They got what they wanted and the Russians are not happy. 4 April 2023. Finland has a 1,340-kilometre (830 mi) border with Russia...

i have asked a finnish friend about it, i dont have any clue who that news outlet is, could be their version of cnn or the bbc for all i know

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, frank83628 said:

i have asked a finnish friend about it, i dont have any clue who that news outlet is, could be their version of cnn or the bbc for all i know

Really. Somehow I just don't believe that

 

"The first Yle News television bulletin aired on TV Channel 1 on June 7, 1999, and the final television broadcast went out on 26 February 2017. Prior to Yle News, Radio Finland produced multilingual radio programming, including news in English. Finland’s first English-language radio news aired during World War II."

[tgw]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

after the lies of the WMDS etc, i am skeptical when it comes to western media. yes, i agree, Blaire, bush etc should all be prisoned, but they never will be, i find it hypocritical when western media attacks a leader of an 'enemy' country and suggests that they are war criminals or oppressing/killing their own people when the US led wars have killed and displaced 100 of millions over recent history and their leaders & politicians walk freely... some earning millions for speaking events and book deals. 

 

i think its also hypocritical to to call Russias narrative FACTUALLY WRONG and MORALLY WRONG when the US, uk and nato have so much blood on their hands. ask Libyans how they feel about 'the west', pretty sure they'd side with Putin & Russia over US & UK.

 

at th end of the day Putin has he reasons, gave warnings, US & nato ignored it and the war started. could have end after a couple of months but the negotiations were stopped by Boris Johnson, thats is a fact!

, whats not talked about is all the resources  Ukraine sits on, that will being going to all the US corps and others that gave aid, Ukrainian citizens will not benefit whatsoever the country will be in debt forever.... but Putins bad and must be eradicated!

 

two wrongs don't make a right.

W killing a million Iraqis doesn't authorize Putin to invade and kill Ukrainians.

 

Yes, Putin warned about his ... EVIL plans.

Imagine someone coming to your home and saying this is my home now, go away or you die... the warning doesn't make it right. and a nation can't just leave.

Putin has to be stopped.

 

there have never been any real negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, because Russia insisted on irrealistic terms. Read it here:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/15/world/europe/ukraine-russia-peace-negotiations.html

 

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Ukrainian citizens will not benefit whatsoever the country will be in debt forever...

 

the price to pay is high, but Ukrainians will eventually be free.

the debt will be mostly pardoned and traded against commercial contracts with Western big business.

 

the alternative was Russia stealing Ukrainian resources.

 

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but Putins bad and must be eradicated!

 

he's not just bad.

"bad" would be fitting for Lukashenko, Xi or Orban. and Trump.

 

Putin is EVIL

he needs to hang from a short rope.

[tgw]

8 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

i have asked a finnish friend about it, i dont have any clue who that news outlet is, could be their version of cnn or the bbc for all i know

 

how more ridiculously can you lie  ?

 

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In 2022, Yle TV1 was the most popular TV channel in Finland, with an audience share of 28 percent.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/633922/tv-channels-in-finland-by-audience-share/

 

[frank83628]

10 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

how more ridiculously can you lie  ?

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/633922/tv-channels-in-finland-by-audience-share/

 

i have asked a finish mate who is in Finland what this media channel is. how its that a Lie?

 

if i gave you a fox news or Daily wire article would you believe everything you read? i questions things what's wrong with that?  i am familiar with British and US msm, other countries not so much.

 

the BBC is the leading ty channel in the UK..... they are bais AF, anti Trump, anti Brexit, Pro nato and pro war...i certainly don't lap up everything i see on there, quite the opposite in fact.

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Didn't learn the lesson...............

 

ISW: Ukrainian forces repel major Russian mechanized assault in Donetsk Oblast The ISW reports that Russia launched its largest mechanized assault since October 2023 in western Donetsk Oblast, which was blunted by Ukrainian defenses.

 

After the failed assault where occupiers used 57 armored vehicles, they decided to attack again in the Kurakhove direction. 3 tanks and 13 armored vehicles began the assault. The brave warriors from the 79th Air Assault Brigade repulsed the attack. The occupiers lost a tank and two IFVs. The assault was failed again.

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

More Russian money heading to Ukraine......

 

Today we transfer €1.5 billion in proceeds from immobilised Russian assets to the defence and reconstruction of Ukraine. 

There is no better symbol or use for the Kremlin’s money than to make Ukraine and all of Europe a safer place to live.

https://x.com/vonderleyen/status/1816761973574353200

 

[tgw]

10 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

i have asked a finish mate who is in Finland what this media channel is. how its that a Lie?

 

if i gave you a fox news or Daily wire article would you believe everything you read? i questions things what's wrong with that?  i am familiar with British and US msm, other countries not so much.

 

the BBC is the leading ty channel in the UK..... they are bais AF, anti Trump, anti Brexit, Pro nato and pro war...i certainly don't lap up everything i see on there, quite the opposite in fact.

 

ah sorry, you made it sound like your Finnish friend didn't know about Yle.

Because even you asked him, you still don't have a clue about what Yle is.

[frank83628]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

More Russian money heading to Ukraine......

 

Today we transfer €1.5 billion in proceeds from immobilised Russian assets to the defence and reconstruction of Ukraine. 

There is no better symbol or use for the Kremlin’s money than to make Ukraine and all of Europe a safer place to live.

https://x.com/vonderleyen/status/1816761973574353200

 

you are ok with countires seizing assets of another? and you call Russia untrustworthy. what goes around comes around

and you're clapping with glee. proper brainwashed sheep, championing war from your laptop. 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

you are ok with countires seizing assets of another? and you call Russia untrustworthy. what goes around comes around

and you're clapping with glee. proper brainwashed sheep, championing war from your laptop. 

yep I am very happy with the terrorists money being taken to help rebuild what they destroyed and fight them and all their war crimes off 

[frank83628]

37 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

two wrongs don't make a right.

W killing a million Iraqis doesn't authorize Putin to invade and kill Ukrainians.

 

Yes, Putin warned about his ... EVIL plans.

Imagine someone coming to your home and saying this is my home now, go away or you die... the warning doesn't make it right. and a nation can't just leave.

Putin has to be stopped.

 

there have never been any real negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, because Russia insisted on irrealistic terms. Read it here:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/15/world/europe/ukraine-russia-peace-negotiations.html

 

 

the price to pay is high, but Ukrainians will eventually be free.

the debt will be mostly pardoned and traded against commercial contracts with Western big business.

 

the alternative was Russia stealing Ukrainian resources.

 

 

he's not just bad.

"bad" would be fitting for Lukashenko, Xi or Orban. and Trump.

 

Putin is EVIL

he needs to hang from a short rope.

Pure evil...haha, get a grip , what nonsense!

 

 

where is your country of origin, because unless it is Russia or Ukraine you are just a sheep and your opinion has been made for you by  the MSM

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

yep I am very happy with the terrorists money being taken to help rebuild what they destroyed and fight them and all their war crimes off 

war crimes.. jeez, ok, but guess you were all for the US led wars in our recent history right, the good ol' west taking out those evil dictators! 🐑

[tgw]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Pure evil...haha, get a grip , what nonsense!

where is your country of origin, because unless it is Russia or Ukraine you are just a sheep and your opinion has been made for you by  the MSM

 

I have family in Ukraine and have been there several times since before the Orange Revolution.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

war crimes.. jeez, ok, but guess you were all for the US led wars in our recent history right, the good ol' west taking out those evil dictators! 🐑

When you have nothing go off topic.

[frank83628]

17 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

ah sorry, you made it sound like your Finnish friend didn't know about Yle.

Because even you asked him, you still don't have a clue about what Yle is.

no i didn't, i know exactly what i meant,  you just misread it. he is in Finland, i expect working today too, so i don't expect him to instantly reply.

[tgw]

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

you are ok with countires seizing assets of another? and you call Russia untrustworthy. what goes around comes around

and you're clapping with glee. proper brainwashed sheep, championing war from your laptop. 

 

we champion for RESISTANCE against an aggressor.

YOU champion for war and for rewarding an aggressor, war criminal, etc. 

you are aiding these criminals and their EVIL plans by helping them fight the propaganda battle on the internet.

[tgw]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

no i didn't, i know exactly what i meant,  you just misread it. he is in Finland, i expect working today too, so i don't expect him to instantly reply.

 

riiiiight. so you rebuff the posted link by saying you have no idea what that media outlet is, supporting the rebuff by saying you even went so far as asking a Finnish friend.

So you had nothing at all to post, but posted anyway to dismiss the source... straight out of an instruction book.

[frank83628]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

When you have nothing go off topic.

you mentioned war crimes, and yeah, it highlight hypocrites when i see them! threads wander..so what? my comment previously was on topic

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

you mentioned war crimes, and yeah, it highlight hypocrites when i see them! threads wander..so what? my comment previously was on topic

Yes war crimes carried out by Russians in Ukraine, the topic of this thread, the war in Ukraine

[frank83628]

4 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

we champion for RESISTANCE against an aggressor.

YOU champion for war and for rewarding an aggressor, war criminal, etc. 

you are aiding these criminals and their EVIL plans by helping them fight the propaganda battle on the internet.

no, i want the to end and the US to stop interfering in countries affairs 1000's of miles away from their shores, you don't even want to entertain peace talks, pick up a rifle and go to the front like if you think so strongly, but you wont, you're only a warrior from the keyboard.

 

 

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes war crimes carried out by Russians in Ukraine, the topic of this thread, the war in Ukraine

are there any?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

are there any?

Troll. Nobody forgets Bucha

 

If you are so interested in the others look to your Russian friends that are holding the chair of the UN where there are plenty of reports on Russian war crimes and the ICC arrest warrants

[frank83628]

15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Troll. Nobody forgets Bucha

 

If you are so interested in the others look to your Russian friends that are holding the chair of the UN where there are plenty of reports on Russian war crimes and the ICC arrest warrants

Nobody forgets Bucha... haha, like you care!! you just repeat what the MSM tell you be angry about. so which is the truth, the  wests version and the Russian version?  and before you jump in just  remember WMD's, anthrax, babies in incubator’s, 911, etc etc..but no...this time they are not lying!!

 

 

 

Pentagon Blocks Evidence Sharing: The US Defense Department is blocking the sharing of evidence gathered by American intelligence agencies about Russian war crimes in Ukraine with the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague, citing concerns about setting a precedent for potential ICC investigations into US military actions.

 

US is not in a position to lecture about war crimes are they, people in glass houses!!