Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[beautifulthailand99]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

I really couldn't care less what your monies on, 

 

Russians Will Soon Learn to Pronounce ‘Palyanytsya’ – Ukraine’s New Jet-Propelled Drone

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/37934

 

Its nothing to do with the new types of missiles and the US turning their heads conspiracey

I think we agree Brian a good place to leave posting for today.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

I think we agree Brian a good place to leave posting for today.

Please stop telling me what I agree with or not, its trolling at best

[ballpoint]

Another video on the Toropets missile/ammo arsenal strike showing the facility still burning with the plume of smoke visible from space.  The main reason I'm posting it, though, is the news conference given by the regional governor, where he says the Russians shot down some drones and the debris started a fire that's being dealt with.  All the while with the repeated sounds of explosions in the background.  Nothing to see here!  Baghdad Bob, meet Toropets Tom.

 

Also a still from the video showing a press release from 2018 when this facility was built to "the highest world standards", highlighting how well it will "ensure their (missile and ammunition) safety and explosion and fire safety".  The Russians must be terrified and furious in equal measures.  While the video commentator does speculate whether a missile was involved in the attack, mainly because of the purported strength of the shielding around the missiles stored here, other sources have said over 100 attack drones were used in the operation.

 

 

 

[ballpoint]

Following from the above post, an article from RBC-Ukraine stating:

 

"Sources told RBC-Ukraine that the attack on the warehouse was a special operation of Ukrainian defenders, involving the Security Service of Ukraine, Defense Intelligence of Ukraine, and the Special Operations Forces.

It is confirmed that the attack targeted the warehouse of the Missile and Artillery Department, where the Russians stored missiles for Iskander tactical systems, KN23 ballistic missiles, missiles for Tochka-U tactical missile systems, guided aerial bombs, S-300s, and artillery ammunition.

According to sources, more than a hundred attack drones were involved".

 

Russia claims that 54 drones were "destroyed". Possibly when they hit their targets and exploded.

 

Strike on warehouse in Russia's Tver region - Details | RBC-Ukraine

[beautifulthailand99]

15 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

Another video on the Toropets missile/ammo arsenal strike showing the facility still burning with the plume of smoke visible from space.  The main reason I'm posting it, though, is the news conference given by the regional governor, where he says the Russians shot down some drones and the debris started a fire that's being dealt with.  All the while with the repeated sounds of explosions in the background.  Nothing to see here!  Baghdad Bob, meet Toropets Tom.

 

Also a still from the video showing a press release from 2018 when this facility was built to "the highest world standards", highlighting how well it will "ensure their (missile and ammunition) safety and explosion and fire safety".  The Russians must be terrified and furious in equal measures.  While the video commentator does speculate whether a missile was involved in the attack, mainly because of the purported strength of the shielding around the missiles stored here, other sources have said over 100 attack drones were used in the operation.

 

 

 

 

On 26 July 2024 Bulgakov was arrested on charges of corruption by the FSB and sent to Lefortovo prison in Moscow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Bulgakov#cite_note-7

 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/07/26/former-russian-deputy-defense-minister-arrested-on-corruption-charges-a85837

[Patong2021]

8 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

A magnitude 2.8 earthquake was recorded in Toropets after a drone attack on an ammunition depot

After that there were 7 more tremors with magnitudes from 2 to 2.8.

The giant ammunition depot continues to detonate. Google maps satellite imagery shows hundreds of crates that look like ammunition lying in the open.

 

 

Brings a new meaning to Russians going boom boom.  😁  Thankfully, these are weapons that will not be used to kill non combatants.

[beautifulthailand99]

 

The West has finally declared war on Russian disinformation
Putin aims to discredit liberal democracy at home and abroad, and social media gave him a platform to do so

 

https://archive.is/BfEqh#selection-2347.0-2371.114

 

While Russian state media is no longer able to present the case against Ukraine to large audiences, it may not need to. An April 2024 CBS/YouGov poll showed that 61 per cent of Republicans, 50 per cent of Independents and 26 per cent of Democrats oppose sending military aid to Ukraine. Amongst Republicans, 56 per cent trust Ukraine-sceptic conservative media outlets as information sources about the war, while only 33 per cent trust war correspondents and 27 per cent trust the State Department.

[beautifulthailand99]

Ukraine’s Allies Are Starting to Look at How a Cease-fire Could Work - Some officials are gaming out what an off-ramp could look like - BLOOMBERG

 

https://archive.ph/2024.09.18-122826/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-17/ukraine-russia-ceasefire-kyiv-s-allies-start-to-look-at-how-it-could-work

 

One European defense official said their government shares the concern that following any deal, Putin would prey on insecurities in the West as he prepared for a new conflict. What’s more, the official noted, it would be politically difficult for Zelenskiy to sign any agreement that includes territorial concessions while Putin’s goal to subjugate Ukraine in its entirety remains unchanged. At the very least, it would make sense for Putin to wait to see who wins the US election and what their actual policies are, said the official.

Edited September 18 by beautifulthailand99

[tgw]

12 hours ago, johng said:

It is an extremely cunning plan...no doubt as mentioned above requires Russia to return all territory,pay reperations in perpetuity give upits nuclear arsenal and  burn the evil "Hitler Putin"in red square on worldwide TV as a deterrent to others who would threaten "The rules based world order"

 

your plan is a bit unrealistic, but it would be the right thing and very satisfying.

[Jingthing]

Zero chance of anything happening before Russia knows if they're gonna get their poodle Trump back.

[tgw]

2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

 

The West has finally declared war on Russian disinformation
Putin aims to discredit liberal democracy at home and abroad, and social media gave him a platform to do so

 

https://archive.is/BfEqh#selection-2347.0-2371.114

 

While Russian state media is no longer able to present the case against Ukraine to large audiences, it may not need to. An April 2024 CBS/YouGov poll showed that 61 per cent of Republicans, 50 per cent of Independents and 26 per cent of Democrats oppose sending military aid to Ukraine. Amongst Republicans, 56 per cent trust Ukraine-sceptic conservative media outlets as information sources about the war, while only 33 per cent trust war correspondents and 27 per cent trust the State Department.

 

yes, that's something I have been saying for years already.

Russian disinformation networks need to be silenced and their supporters (Musk, Tucker Carlson, corrupt Western influencers) reigned in.

I'm happy to see the West is finally taking steps against it.

The Russians have been at it for well over ten years already. It will stop now.

Edited September 18 by tgw

[impulse]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Zero chance of anything happening before Russia knows if they're gonna get their poodle Trump back.

 

You mean the only one of the past 3 president's who convinced them not to attack Ukraine?

[kwonitoy]

https://english.nv.ua/nation/over-100-drones-hit-tver-warehouse-with-iskanders-tochka-u-missiles-video-50451835.html

 

[kwonitoy]

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/comment/only-13-in-russia-expert-on-significance-1726674835.html

 

[Bkk Brian]

Russians providing more evidence of their own war crimes.

 

"A Russian drone operator’s video: an attack on civilians fixing a roof after it was destroyed by another attack."

 

 

[Mavideol]

they though an easy buck was easy to earn  ...

'Please save me': The Indians duped into fighting for Russia

https://au.yahoo.com/news/please-save-indians-duped-fighting-085107503.html

 

[Mavideol]

US soldiers stationed on Alaskan island armed with rocket launchers after Russian activity detected

https://au.yahoo.com/news/us-puts-soldiers-rocket-launchers-200039328.html

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

13 hours ago, impulse said:

You mean the only one of the past 3 president's who convinced them not to attack Ukraine?

Please provide your evidence of Trump telling the Russians not to invade Ukraine.

 

I'm pretty confident that you won't find any, since in fact, he stated while he was in office that Ukraine should be part of Russia, and when the invasion looked like it was about to happen, he described Putin's actions as 'genius.'

 

Hardly observations indicative of someone opposed to, or who was ever likely to try to prevent, the Russian invasion. 

 

Trump Believed Ukraine ‘Must Be Part Of Russia’

 

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The former president “made it very clear that he thought, you know, that Ukraine, and certainly Crimea, must be part of Russia”

 

As Putin eyes Ukraine invasion, Trump praises his actions as 'genius'

 

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"This is genius," Trump said. "Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine ... Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful."

 

Edited September 19 by GroveHillWanderer

[Danderman123]

16 hours ago, impulse said:

 

You mean the only one of the past 3 president's who convinced them not to attack Ukraine?

Trump calls Putin ‘genius’ and ‘savvy’ for Ukraine invasion

 

 

[kwonitoy]

Edited September 19 by kwonitoy

[kwonitoy]

 

[Danderman123]

18 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

 

The Neptune missile has a range of 200 kilometers, whereas the ammo storage site was 1000 kilometers from Ukraine.

[kwonitoy]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The Neptune missile has a range of 200 kilometers, whereas the ammo storage site was 1000 kilometers from Ukraine.

According to the article:

appears to be a hybrid, something Ukraine is becoming expert on

 

Unprecedented resources mobilized by the Ukrainian forces have significantly amplified the devastation. An inside military source in Kyiv disclosed that over 100 drones were involved in the operation. Pro-Kremlin Telegram channels mentioned the possibility of a new "Palianytsia" missile drone, whose successful test was announced by President Volodymyr Zelensky at the end of August. In contrast, Ukrainian site Defense Express leans towards the theory of a modified "Neptune" missile with a tripled explosive payload.

The likelihood is high that the strike was a hybrid attack, utilizing Ukrainian rocket drones and cruise missiles.

 

Early Wednesday morning, September 18, a series of powerful explosions obliterated a major ammunition depot near the town of Toropets in the Tver region. The hit depot, labeled Arsenal No. 107, housed 240 tons of ammunition and was situated 500 kilometers north of the Ukrainian border. 

Edited September 19 by kwonitoy

[Mavideol]

Putin's 'Well-Established' Ambition To Be Derailed By 1 – Rather Obvious – Problem, UK Says

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putins-well-established-ambition-derailed-115216419.html

 

[Mavideol]

Zelenskyy says Ukraine's Victory Plan is fully prepared

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/zelenskyy-says-ukraines-victory-plan-230152011.html

[Mavideol]

Russia’s Tver region partially evacuated after Ukrainian drone strike causes fire

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/russia-tver-region-partially-evacuated-111835866.html

[Mavideol]

could it be Vlad is running out of Rubles 555

IMF postpones economic consultations with Russia to gather more data

https://au.yahoo.com/finance/news/imf-postpones-scheduled-consultations-russia-233916496.html

 

[Mavideol]

What was stored at the Russian arms depot in Tver region struck by Ukraine's drones?

https://au.yahoo.com/news/stored-russian-arms-depot-tver-160306033.html

 

[Mavideol]

He spearheaded Ukraine’s drone industry to fight Russia – now he is battling to keep Moscow out of chess

https://au.yahoo.com/news/spearheaded-ukraine-drone-industry-fight-163920221.html

 

[Mavideol]

Opinion - The hidden costs of America’s entanglement in the Ukraine war

https://au.yahoo.com/news/opinion-hidden-costs-america-entanglement-160000440.html