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No way in hell they are trying to defend themselves here; they are trying to take advantage of Russia, which is currently at war, and are showing the Russians who the real dog is by flexing their power. Defense would be if the Russians made some underhanded attacks on the U.S., but I can't think of any recent events that would suggest that

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1 hour ago, orang37 said:

No way in hell they are trying to defend themselves here; they are trying to take advantage of Russia, which is currently at war, and are showing the Russians who the real dog is by flexing their power. Defense would be if the Russians made some underhanded attacks on the U.S., but I can't think of any recent events that would suggest that

 

Russia has made attacks using weapons of mass destruction on NATO territory in recent years, leading to deaths and injuries among civilians and uniformed services.

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13 hours ago, Mavideol said:

I would call it a warning and Putin is taking notice

Increasing U.S. presence near Russia: Defense or provocation?

 

Increasing U.S. presence near Russia: Defense or provocation? (msn.com)

 

Or a response to increases in Russian troop numbers along the borders with the Baltic States;

 

https://www.ft.com/content/1ec23623-31b3-446d-aa8b-b60684f44cc9

 

But its ebbed and flowed over the years, because a couple of months later, Russia dropped the numbers on the borders with NATO. Meaning they don't really think NATO is a threat to Russian sovereignty, and the Party Line is strictly for public consumption.

 

Justification for increasing defensive posture;

 

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-2-2024

 

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Senior Russian officials continue to set conditions to justify possible future aggression against the Baltic states. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko gave an interview to Russian state-sponsored media outlet Baltnews that was published on September 30 that portrays Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia as enemies of Russia that have chosen "confrontation" over peace and are supporters of Nazis and neo-Nazism.[67] Grushko claimed that the Baltic states gave up their sovereignty to bolster NATO even though NATO would use these states as the main defensive barrier in a future confrontation with Russia. Kremlin officials have previously used similar accusations of supporting Nazism to justify the invasion of Ukraine, and Grushko's narrative is also likely aimed at scaring Baltic states from supporting policies that are contrary to Russia's interests in Europe.

 

 

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6 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

Russia has made attacks using weapons of mass destruction on NATO territory in recent years, leading to deaths and injuries among civilians and uniformed services.

Is that right? Can you give some examples please? Why hasn’t Article 5 been triggered?

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wonder why they come out with shtttttt like that after the fact, they had plenty of occasions to help but the turned a blind eye, damn politics and damn politicians

 

Ex-NATO chief says allies should have given Ukraine weapons earlier

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ex-nato-chief-says-allies-150630518.html

 

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Yep, we've seen the uptick from all the horrific vids of the executions lately. Their new terror policy

 

Steep rise in Russian executions of Ukrainian prisoners of war

Executions of Ukrainian prisoners of war by Vladimir Putin’s forces have surged this year, with a top Kyiv official warning it could indicate a shift in Russian policy.
Some 80 per cent of the 93 prisoner executions recorded since the start of the war took place this year, Yuriy Belousov, the head of the prosecutor-general’s office, revealed on local TV. Gruesome videos and photos that appear to show the killings are often circulated by war bloggers and Telegram accounts, becoming vital evidence for Ukraine’s investigations.

https://archive.ph/2SOx9

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/06/steep-rise-in-russian-executions-of-ukrainian-prisoners/

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12 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

Russia has made attacks using weapons of mass destruction on NATO territory in recent years, leading to deaths and injuries among civilians and uniformed services.

And what exactly are those territories, like which country did they attack?

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