Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[Gweiloman]

11 hours ago, liddelljohn said:

Why is NK and Moscow media showing  NK troops  being  deployed in Russia  then ,, The  Western media are only taking the feeds from the NK and Moscow media ........

Claims have to be supported by links. Forum rules. Else, it’s just made up nonsense.

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Claims have to be supported by links. Forum rules. Else, it’s just made up nonsense.

GEO located footage of NK troops in Russia

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/19/asia/north-korea-ukraine-russia-troops-uniform-intl/index.html

 

You wish it was nonsense. Lets hope you make no claims without links in future, I will refer you to this.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, Denim said:

Given that in 2023 the UK spent 4.3 billion pounds on asylum seekers and that the Ukrainian armed forces are short of manpower it would be useful to both the UK and Ukraine if all the asylum seekers were sent to fight for Kiev.  Talk about kill two birds with one stone !  For those that serve an insentive could be given. Full pay ( they want to work don't they ) plus a bonus that they can take back home with them when the war is over. Win win .

 

My point is that in the event of a cut in funding from the USA Ukraine should not be abandoned to its fate for want of cash. Billions are being spent all over Europe dealing with asylum claimants. Why should'nt they fight for the right to remain in Europe. ?

I like the idea of sending illegal immigrants to fight for Ukraine, but oppose sending any taxpayer money there. Taxpayer money should be spent on the health service and ambulance drivers, not killing people. If the government wants to spend the citizens money on bullets they should declare war on Russia.

[Gweiloman]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

GEO located footage of NK troops in Russia

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/19/asia/north-korea-ukraine-russia-troops-uniform-intl/index.html

 

You wish it was nonsense. Lets hope you make no claims without links in future, I will refer you to this.

Western link. Untrusted by many. The poster I replied to mentioned NK and Russian media.

 

Do you think that CNN would have been present to take those photos? Lol.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, zmisha said:

You probably have some kind of profession. How do you feel about newbies with zero experience in your profession? They are a burden, aren't they? It's the same with volunteers without combat experience. A military career is very similar to any other. People without experience are a burden there - any military man will tell you that.

LOL. Do you know anything about the army? The illegals could be used to dig trenches and transport supplies, which would free up Ukrainians to do the fighting. Any fit person can dig a trench and the illegals seem to be mainly fit young men.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

Western link. Untrusted by many. The poster I replied to mentioned NK and Russian media.

 

Do you think that CNN would have been present to take those photos? Lol.

Its a video not photos and its GEO located 

 

You are also posting on a forum where you do not agree with the rules on links, can you see the irony.........

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, Denim said:

 

True indeed. But their is thing called training these days. 6 weeks drilling , first aid,weapons and tactics. All armies have this. Even Ukrainian troops were sent to the UK for combat training.

LOL. If you think 6 weeks drill prepares anyone for a combat role I have a bridge for sale cheap. Having been there done that, it's just the first stage for all arms, even cooks and bottle washers. After that the real training begins and it's not a couple of weeks running around the training ground.

 

Tactics? Seriously?

[Patong2021]

South Korea has provided documentation as per its press release;

https://www.nis.go.kr/CM/1_4/view.do?seq=320

 

The National Intelligence Service announced on October 18,that North Korea began moving special forces for dispatch to Russia on October 8.

- In August 2024  South Korean NIS  recorded Kim Jong-sik, first vice director of the Munitions Industry Department, a key figure in North Korea's missile development, visiting a North Korean KN-23 missile launch site near the Russian-Ukrainian front several times with dozens of North Korean military officers and providing on-site guidance.

 

- Between Oct. 8  and Oct. 12, the NIS recorded North Korea transporting special forces to Russian territory via a Russian naval transport ship, confirming the start of the North Korean military's participation in the war.

 

- South Korea's NIS  reports that four landing ships and three escort ships belonging to the Russian Pacific Fleet completed the first transport of approximately 1,500 North Korean special forces from the areas near Chongjin, Hamhung, and Musudan (Attachment 1) to Vladivostok, Russia during the same period, and a second transport operation is scheduled to take place soon.

 

- The North Korean soldiers dispatched to Russia are currently stationed at Russian military bases in the Far East, including Vladivostok, Ussuriysk (Appendix 2), Khabarovsk (Appendix 3), and Blagoveshchensk, and are expected to be deployed to the front lines as soon as they complete their adaptation training.

 

- Kim Jong-un inspected the special forces twice prior to the deployment, on the 11th of last month and the 2nd of this month (Attachment 4).

 

- The North Korean soldiers were issued Russian military uniforms and Russian-made weapons, and were also issued fake ID cards of residents of the Yakutia and Buryatia regions of Siberia (Appendix 5) who looked similar to North Koreans. It appears that they disguised themselves as Russian soldiers to hide the fact that they were deployed to the battlefield.

 

- The NIS has documented its estimate that North Korea had provided Russia military weapons and munitions amounting to over 13,000 containers (Attached Files 6 and 7) on approximately 70 occasions since August of 2023.

 

- The NIS says that it is confirming the observation by foreign media  regarding ‘direct military cooperation between Russia and North Korea’ 

 

Photo evidence Provided by South Korea Government

(Attachment 1) Activities of Russian ships for the purpose of transporting North Korean troops (10.12)ㆍSynopsis of Russian landing ships transporting North Korean troops in the East Sea

 

 

(Attachment 2) Military facility in Ussuriisk, Primorsky Krai (estimated 400 North Korean personnel gathered in parade ground, 10.16)

 

 

(Attachment 3) Military facility in Khabarovsk (estimated number of North Korean personnel: 240 people gathered, 10.16)

 

 

(Attachment 4) Photo of Kim Jong-un observing special warfare training (9.11)

 

 

(Attachment 6) Russian ship (Angara) carrying North Korean weapons departing from Najin Port

 

 

(Attachment 7) Russian ship (Lady R) carrying North Korean weapons departing from Najin Port

 

 

(Attachment 😎 Phoenix-4

 

 

(Attachment 9) Remnants of North Korean KN-23 captured by Ukrainian forces

 

 

(Attachment 10) North Korean multiple rocket launcher (left) and North Korean 9M113 anti-tank missile (right) acquired by the Ukrainian military

 

 

Russia is  trying to start WW III with the use of North Korean personnel. These foreign military personnel should be stopped at the  source.

[problemfarang]

14 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Actually, there’s no evidence of NK troops. Even Mark Rutte said as much. It’s just western propaganda.

 

you gotta be kidding or you better.

 

havent you seen the videos NK soldiers getting uniforms under russian flags? or other videos.. or you were closing your eyes at that time?

 

[problemfarang]

To make it clear 

i am a alive eye witness that i saw NK equipment in Ukraine. 

i dont know about other parts but yes i saw them in Kurks, i clearly state that i took some NK things from dead russian bodies by myself or by other squad members. So anyone who is saying NK not sending anything is just.. well you name it.

also i must add that i saw many latin alphabet written russian materials too. so some how they are still getting EU materials. 

about NK soldires. im pretty sure that i will fight against them when i get back in 2 weeks. After Ahmet and Kadirov battalion tiktoker jokers.. lets see about NK elite soldiers.. 

PS: you should see how Ahmedov and Kadirov soldiers running away. We even took some of them as POWs

but i must say the new group arrived to kursk of russian soldiers are better. they also equipped real good. 

 

if you guys have any questions i can answer  

 

 

[problemfarang]

2 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Western link. Untrusted by many. The poster I replied to mentioned NK and Russian media.

 

Do you think that CNN would have been present to take those photos? Lol.

 

actually there are some videos recorded by russian soldiers and posted on their blogs too. dont ask me to post i wont. i will never ever do a russian advertisement here or any where else

[Gweiloman]

15 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

 

you gotta be kidding or you better.

 

havent you seen the videos NK soldiers getting uniforms under russian flags? or other videos.. or you were closing your eyes at that time?

 

Asian looking soldiers getting Russian uniforms mean just that - Asian looking soldiers getting Russian uniforms. They could be from Central Asian Stan countries. That's not proof that NK soldiers are fighting for Russia. For all we know, they could be mercenaries. You yourself have confirmed mercenaries fighting for Ukraine. What's good for the goose is also good for the gander, isn't it? I don't see what the problem is and why this should be a red line (other than as a desperate move by the west).

[Gweiloman]

24 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

To make it clear 

i am a alive eye witness that i saw NK equipment in Ukraine. 

i dont know about other parts but yes i saw them in Kurks, i clearly state that i took some NK things from dead russian bodies by myself or by other squad members. So anyone who is saying NK not sending anything is just.. well you name it.

also i must add that i saw many latin alphabet written russian materials too. so some how they are still getting EU materials. 

about NK soldires. im pretty sure that i will fight against them when i get back in 2 weeks. After Ahmet and Kadirov battalion tiktoker jokers.. lets see about NK elite soldiers.. 

PS: you should see how Ahmedov and Kadirov soldiers running away. We even took some of them as POWs

but i must say the new group arrived to kursk of russian soldiers are better. they also equipped real good. 

 

if you guys have any questions i can answer  

 

 

I'm sure there are materials and equipment from all over the world. North Korean, Chinese, Iranian, European, maybe even British and American. It's a lucrative business after all.

 

You said you are willing to answer questions. Are you being paid to fight for Ukraine? If not, are some of the others from countries you've mentioned like Columbia, Georgia etc?

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I'm sure there are materials and equipment from all over the world. North Korean, Chinese, Iranian, European, maybe even British and American. It's a lucrative business after all.

 

You said you are willing to answer questions. Are you being paid to fight for Ukraine? If not, are some of the others from countries you've mentioned like Columbia, Georgia etc?

You're triggered because Russia is so desperate for man power its had to go cap in hand to NK.

 

Even the agreement they ratified a few days ago where is was made clear that they will help each other if there is a war you are ignoring. Link already posted.

[Gweiloman]

40 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

South Korea has provided documentation as per its press release;

https://www.nis.go.kr/CM/1_4/view.do?seq=320

 

The National Intelligence Service announced on October 18,that North Korea began moving special forces for dispatch to Russia on October 8.

- In August 2024  South Korean NIS  recorded Kim Jong-sik, first vice director of the Munitions Industry Department, a key figure in North Korea's missile development, visiting a North Korean KN-23 missile launch site near the Russian-Ukrainian front several times with dozens of North Korean military officers and providing on-site guidance.

 

- Between Oct. 8  and Oct. 12, the NIS recorded North Korea transporting special forces to Russian territory via a Russian naval transport ship, confirming the start of the North Korean military's participation in the war.

 

- South Korea's NIS  reports that four landing ships and three escort ships belonging to the Russian Pacific Fleet completed the first transport of approximately 1,500 North Korean special forces from the areas near Chongjin, Hamhung, and Musudan (Attachment 1) to Vladivostok, Russia during the same period, and a second transport operation is scheduled to take place soon.

 

- The North Korean soldiers dispatched to Russia are currently stationed at Russian military bases in the Far East, including Vladivostok, Ussuriysk (Appendix 2), Khabarovsk (Appendix 3), and Blagoveshchensk, and are expected to be deployed to the front lines as soon as they complete their adaptation training.

 

- Kim Jong-un inspected the special forces twice prior to the deployment, on the 11th of last month and the 2nd of this month (Attachment 4).

 

- The North Korean soldiers were issued Russian military uniforms and Russian-made weapons, and were also issued fake ID cards of residents of the Yakutia and Buryatia regions of Siberia (Appendix 5) who looked similar to North Koreans. It appears that they disguised themselves as Russian soldiers to hide the fact that they were deployed to the battlefield.

 

- The NIS has documented its estimate that North Korea had provided Russia military weapons and munitions amounting to over 13,000 containers (Attached Files 6 and 7) on approximately 70 occasions since August of 2023.

 

- The NIS says that it is confirming the observation by foreign media  regarding ‘direct military cooperation between Russia and North Korea’ 

 

Photo evidence Provided by South Korea Government

(Attachment 1) Activities of Russian ships for the purpose of transporting North Korean troops (10.12)ㆍSynopsis of Russian landing ships transporting North Korean troops in the East Sea

 

 

(Attachment 2) Military facility in Ussuriisk, Primorsky Krai (estimated 400 North Korean personnel gathered in parade ground, 10.16)

 

 

(Attachment 3) Military facility in Khabarovsk (estimated number of North Korean personnel: 240 people gathered, 10.16)

 

 

(Attachment 4) Photo of Kim Jong-un observing special warfare training (9.11)

 

 

(Attachment 6) Russian ship (Angara) carrying North Korean weapons departing from Najin Port

 

 

(Attachment 7) Russian ship (Lady R) carrying North Korean weapons departing from Najin Port

 

 

(Attachment 😎 Phoenix-4

 

 

(Attachment 9) Remnants of North Korean KN-23 captured by Ukrainian forces

 

 

(Attachment 10) North Korean multiple rocket launcher (left) and North Korean 9M113 anti-tank missile (right) acquired by the Ukrainian military

 

 

Russia is  trying to start WW III with the use of North Korean personnel. These foreign military personnel should be stopped at the  source.

Why is foreign military personnel ok for Ukraine but not for Russia? Not double standards surely? 

 

Maybe the NK  troops are just going there to observe and for training. After all, plenty of NATO personnel have been in Ukraine for this purpose.

[Gweiloman]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You're triggered because Russia is so desperate for man power its had to go cap in hand to NK.

 

Even the agreement they ratified a few days ago where is was made clear that they will help each other if there is a war you are ignoring. Link already posted.

Nah. I'm not triggered. Doesn't bother me either way. Not my war. What bothers me is hypocrisy and double standards and disinformation.

 

The agreement between Russia and NK is not unlike Article 5. Russia was invaded by a 3rd country so it's not unexpected if NK sends support to Russia.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

Nah. I'm not triggered. Doesn't bother me either way. Not my war. What bothers me is hypocrisy and double standards and disinformation.

 

The agreement between Russia and NK is not unlike Article 5. Russia was invaded by a 3rd country so it's not unexpected if NK sends support to Russia.

Yes you are...lol 

[Gweiloman]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes you are...lol 

Resorting to claiming how others feel is a sure sign of desperation. Sad...

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Gweiloman said:

Resorting to claiming how others feel is a sure sign of desperation. Sad...

Stating the obvious....👍

[Mavideol]

France worried by reports of North Korean troops sent to fight with Russia in Ukraine

https://au.yahoo.com/news/france-worried-reports-north-korean-212258021.html

 

[Mavideol]

North Korea’s special forces in Russia ready to join Putin’s war in Ukraine, South Korea’s spy agency says

https://au.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-special-forces-russia-124507190.html

 

[Mavideol]

What Ukraine should expect from North Korean special forces on the battlefield

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-expect-north-korean-special-162046335.html

 

[Mavideol]

Russia's war in Ukraine: What is extent of North Korea's involvement?

 

Russia's war in Ukraine: What is extent of North Korea's involvement?

[Mavideol]

The troubled and frightening relationship between Putin and Trump

The troubled and frightening relationship between Putin and Trump

[Mavideol]

I needed a good laugh 555

Vladimir Putin wants peace

Vladimir Putin wants peace

 

[Mavideol]

'Russian wanted to carry out terror attack in Belgium'

 

'Russian wanted to carry out terror attack in Belgium'

[Gweiloman]

11 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

What Ukraine should expect from North Korean special forces on the battlefield

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-expect-north-korean-special-162046335.html

 

From the article;

Prof Hazel Smith, a leading UK expert on North Korea at SOAS University, advised caution over Seoul’s claim that special forces could soon be deployed to Ukraine. She noted that some of its previous intelligence assessments had turned out to be “spectacularly wrong.”

 

And there you have it lol

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

From the article;

Prof Hazel Smith, a leading UK expert on North Korea at SOAS University, advised caution over Seoul’s claim that special forces could soon be deployed to Ukraine. She noted that some of its previous intelligence assessments had turned out to be “spectacularly wrong.”

 

And there you have it lol

 

 

 

When they were wrong before had Russian channels filmed the actual North Korean soldiers?

 

The expert also does not dispute the claim of normal North Korean troops, only the special forces. 

 

So there you have it  lol

[transam]

1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

From the article;

Prof Hazel Smith, a leading UK expert on North Korea at SOAS University, advised caution over Seoul’s claim that special forces could soon be deployed to Ukraine. She noted that some of its previous intelligence assessments had turned out to be “spectacularly wrong.”

 

And there you have it lol

 

 

 

Have what......?   

Advises caution, so no fact, as you seem to imply.............🙄

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