First Group of Ukrainian Pilots Completes F-16 Training in the U.S.

[Gweiloman]

8 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 
If Poland is used to attack Russia, what do you EXPECT to happen? Dancing?

No one likes Russia or anyone invading anywhere - but there are Russians in Donbas that were being slaughtered, and the agreement in 2014 was broken.  I think Russia is being VERY restrained in its approach.  The USA caused this, no one else. DIPLOMACY and COMPROMISE could have ended this long before it started, but the UK and USA wanted a fight. I'm still hopeful negotiations will prevail one day - probably after Russia wins.

Problem is that some posters here are just like their government. They will deny that Russia has won, even after the last Ukrainian is dead. You can’t reason with people like this.

[BobBKK]

Just now, Gweiloman said:

Problem is that some posters here are just like their government. They will deny that Russia has won, even after the last Ukrainian is dead. You can’t reason with people like this.

Actually, that is true—there's no denying a denier, and we are outnumbered on here by 20 to 1, at least.  😎

 

[Gweiloman]

33 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 Ah sorry only 5000 a year 400 a month - my mistake - carry on!  ✍️

An average of 13 content free posts per day, every day, for 18 years. Amazing how much non information there must be in that head. I’ll bet you couldn’t manage it.

[Gweiloman]

7 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Actually, that is true—there's no denying a denier, and we are outnumbered on here by 20 to 1, at least.  😎

 

At least, lol.

[BobBKK]

1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

At least, lol.

 
I can imagine Putin standing at The Victory Square in Kiev, and they say, in Python style:

"Nah, he's just visiting like any tourist - next counter-offensive starts soon."  🤪

[BobBKK]

9 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

An average of 13 content free posts per day, every day, for 18 years. Amazing how much non information there must be in that head. I’ll bet you couldn’t manage it.

 
He certainly feels he has something to share 😃 dedicated!  right, I'm off for a glass of RED wine (whoops, that will get me into trouble - it should be white, right?).

[transam]

53 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 Ah sorry only 5000 a year 400 a month - my mistake - carry on!  ✍️

Yes, around 13 per day....😋

Doing my bit for the forum......😘

[Bkk Brian]

40 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 
If Poland is used to attack Russia, what do you EXPECT to happen? Dancing?

No one likes Russia or anyone invading anywhere - but there are Russians in Donbas that were being slaughtered, and the agreement in 2014 was broken.  I think Russia is being VERY restrained in its approach.  The USA caused this, no one else. DIPLOMACY and COMPROMISE could have ended this long before it started, but the UK and USA wanted a fight. I'm still hopeful negotiations will prevail one day - probably after Russia wins.

Another Russian talking point that looked great in meme's but no basis in fact, the great slaughter of Russians in Donbass when facts are clear that just as many Ukrainian civilians were killed.

[Bkk Brian]

34 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 
He certainly feels he has something to share 😃 dedicated!  right, I'm off for a glass of RED wine (whoops, that will get me into trouble - it should be white, right?).

Try sticking to the topic on your return eh, enjoy your caviar and vodka

[mistral53]

On 6/13/2024 at 9:49 AM, Danderman123 said:

Has Vladimir Putin Always Been Corrupt? And Does it Matter?

 

More corrupt, fractured and ostracised: how Vladimir Putin has changed Russia in over two decades on top

 

The untold details of corruption scandals and scams that swirled around Vladimir Putin and his associates as he began his political ascent

I hope you list these links in an attempt to be sarcastic - not in support of the head-line implication?

 

Of course, there is always one up on those linked 'non-governmental organizations' that of course are as factual as a Mafia poem - you could cite Bill Browder........lol

[Gweiloman]

41 minutes ago, transam said:

Yes, around 13 per day....😋

Doing my bit for the forum......😘

Dumbing down comes to mind…🤔

[Gweiloman]

37 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Try sticking to the topic on your return eh, enjoy your caviar and vodka

I love caviar and vodka. Reminds me of those days when I was flying CX a lot and they would be wheeling the trolley down the aisle with the vodka in a solid block of ice. Yummy.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Dumbing down comes to mind…🤔

To you, it would.......🤕

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I love caviar and vodka. Reminds me of those days when I was flying CX a lot and they would be wheeling the trolley down the aisle with the vodka in a solid block of ice. Yummy.

I love caviar and vodka.

 

Of course you do Vlad but I couldn't care less. Shame you also can't keep to the topic

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

 No one likes Russia or anyone invading anywhere - but there are Russians in Donbas that were being slaughtered, and the agreement in 2014 was broken. 

 

Seems in 2014 it was Russia after annexing Crimea deployed unmarked Russian soldiers to invade the Donbas This action was supported by some local pro-Russian inhabitants.

It was Russia that violated the Budapest Memorandum, under which Russia had pledged to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

[jvs]

On 6/10/2024 at 12:50 PM, BobBKK said:

 Do you forget Russia lost 27m in WW2 fighting Hitler and many Ukrainian nazi battalions? Azov is a nazi battalion that is clear, so how do you twist that into we would support Hitler?

https://lens.monash.edu/@politics-society/2022/08/19/1384992/much-azov-about-nothing-how-the-ukrainian-neo-nazis-canard-fooled-the-world

[jvs]

On 6/12/2024 at 1:15 PM, Jingthing said:

Heard some encouraging news from Jake Broe today that the F16s will be stored in NATO countries when they aren't getting ready for active missions in order to prevent fascist genocidal Russia from taking too many of them out. What an excellent plan! Imagine Putin's frustration learning about that.

Yes i mentioned that earlier already,let the F-16's use airfields in other friendly countries,nothing putin can do about that but whine.

[Gweiloman]

22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I love caviar and vodka.

 

Of course you do Vlad but I couldn't care less. Shame you also can't keep to the topic

Sorry to hear that you’ve never sampled some of the greatest gastronomic cuisines of the western world. Admittedly, you don’t get it flying cattle class. 
 

As for being off topic, I’m sure you’ve reported my post. Sore losers tend to do that.

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 6/12/2024 at 1:53 PM, johng said:

He has indicated that he would provide armaments to other countries  who would then use those arms to strike...you know like a "proxy" war.

So you really think there are other countries who, if supplied with Russian weapons, will use them against say, Poland, Germany or the UK and thereby get drawn into a conflict with the entire NATO alliance, as provided for under Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty? 

 

Can you tell us who any of these countries might be?

Edited June 14 by GroveHillWanderer

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Sorry to hear that you’ve never sampled some of the greatest gastronomic cuisines of the western world. Admittedly, you don’t get it flying cattle class. 
 

As for being off topic, I’m sure you’ve reported my post. Sore losers tend to do that.

Wrong on all counts, that takes some doing, congratulations fella 

[NoDisplayName]

On 5/25/2024 at 3:38 AM, Social Media said:

the first batch of Ukrainian pilots has successfully completed the F-16 training program

 

RIP

[Danderman123]

13 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 
I can imagine Putin standing at The Victory Square in Kiev, and they say, in Python style:

"Nah, he's just visiting like any tourist - next counter-offensive starts soon."  🤪

Is that what the bosses at the troll farm say is the goal for Russia? Or is that just your dream?

[jvs]

 

[BobBKK]

1 hour ago, jvs said:

 

Hopefully, take them out in the airfields. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[BobBKK]

16 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Try sticking to the topic on your return eh, enjoy your caviar and vodka

Actually, I do have a bottle of Stolichnaya here, but being a vegetarian, I don't eat caviar. Have a nice day.

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, billd766 said:

Try doing a search for yourself as many people do. As I usually do I have provided a link and an excerpt but the whole item is 12 pages long and this is just the first page to give you an idea.

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/US-Withdrawal-from-Afghanistan.pdf

 

When he came into office, President Biden believed the right thing for the country was
to end the longest war in American history and bring American troops home. As he laid
out to the American people, after twenty years, the United States had accomplished its
mission in Afghanistan: to remove from the battlefield the terrorists who attacked the
United States on 9/11, including Osama bin Laden, and degrade the terrorist threat to
the United States. Over two decades, the United States had also—along with our
NATO allies and partners—spent hundreds of billions of dollars training and equipping
the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) and supporting successive
Afghan governments. At the outset, America’s goal was never to nation-build. But,
over time, this is what America drifted into doing. Two decades after the war had
started, America had become bogged down in a war in Afghanistan with unclear
objectives and no end in sight and was underinvesting in today’s and tomorrow’s
national security challenges.

 

President Biden’s choices for how to execute a withdrawal from Afghanistan were
severely constrained by conditions created by his predecessor. When President Trump
took office in 2017, there were more than 10,000 troops in Afghanistan. Eighteen
months later, after introducing more than 3,000 additional troops just to maintain the
stalemate, President Trump ordered direct talks with the Taliban without consulting with
our allies and partners or allowing the Afghan government at the negotiating table. In
September 2019, President Trump emboldened the Taliban by publicly considering inviting them to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11. In February 2020, the United States and the Taliban reached a deal, known as the Doha Agreement, under which the United States agreed to withdraw all U.S. forces from Afghanistan by May 2021. In return, the Taliban agreed to participate in a peace process and refrain from attacking U.S. troops and threatening Afghanistan’s major cities—but only as long as the United States remained committed to withdraw by the agreement’s deadline. As part of the deal, President Trump also pressured the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban fighters from prison, including senior war commanders, without securing the release of the only American hostage known to be held by the Taliban.

Over his last 11 months in office, President Trump ordered a series of drawdowns of
U.S. troops. By June 2020, President Trump reduced U.S. troops in Afghanistan to
8,600. In September 2020, he directed a further draw down to 4,500. A month later,
President Trump tweeted, to the surprise of military advisors, that the remaining U.S.
troops in Afghanistan should be “home by Christmas!” On September 28, 2021,
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Milley testified that, on November 11, he had
received an unclassified signed order directing the U.S. military to withdraw all forces
from Afghanistan no later than January 15, 2021. One week later, that order was
rescinded and replaced with one to draw down to 2,500 troops by the same date.
During the transition from the Trump Administration to the Biden Administration, the outgoing Administration provided no plans for how to conduct the final withdrawal or to evacuate Americans and Afghan allies. Indeed, there were no such plans in place
when President Biden came into office, even with the agreed upon full withdrawal just
over three months away.

 

There are another 11 pages in the link.

Blah blah blah. Excuses excuses.

If Biden didn't like the terms of withdrawal he should have stopped and done it differently. The buck stops with the guy currently in the big chair.

If it was the other way around I very much doubt you'd be blaming your guy, and it would be all Trump's fault.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

So you really think there are other countries who, if supplied with Russian weapons, will use them against say, Poland, Germany or the UK and thereby get drawn into a conflict with the entire NATO alliance, as provided for under Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty? 

 

Can you tell us who any of these countries might be?

Nobody except you is talking about NATO countries. He likely means arming countries like Syria, Yemen, Iran and Iraq to attack US bases in the area.

[transam]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Nobody except you is talking about NATO countries. He likely means arming countries like Syria, Yemen, Iran and Iraq to attack US bases in the area.

Thought they were arming him..................🤣

[billd766]

50 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Blah blah blah. Excuses excuses.

If Biden didn't like the terms of withdrawal he should have stopped and done it differently. The buck stops with the guy currently in the big chair.

If it was the other way around I very much doubt you'd be blaming your guy, and it would be all Trump's fault.

It was all Trumps fault.

[Gweiloman]

On 6/15/2024 at 1:46 PM, transam said:

Thought they were arming him..................🤣

You thought wrong… as usual.