Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[Walker88]

21 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Actually, not really. Sounds like lots of irrelevant finger pointing. Biden has a long and storied record of being on the wrong side of most foreign policy matters, dating back to his time in the Senate. A legacy he continues to this day. 

 

As for the Afghan debacle, as far as I remember the sudden withdrawal happened while BIDEN was President, though I could be wrong about that. To be honest, the whole invasion of the country was a mistake from the beginning. Especially once Bin Laden was killed, there was no reason to hang around.  But that's another story. 

Not sure I understand your comment. Iraq/Afghanistan/Obl are rather different things.

 

ObL was long gone from Afghanistan during Bush II's time. Iraq was a terrible mistake largely due to the Neocons in general, and Cheney in particular. He coopted then-DCI Tenet to go along with WMD, when actual analysts in the agency gave WMD a 15% chance (proving a negative is not possible, so 15% is about as low as they could go). Every indication was that Saddam dumped his WMD program after Gulf War I, I guess because he did not want to jeopardize his life of "booze, broads and palaces". In fact, the supposed 'best' intel re WMDs was given to the weapons inspectors who found....a milk factory. Analysts thought that might cool down the blood of the Neocons and put some doubt in their minds. Sadly, it did not.

 

Also, in 2001, a White Paper was produced in Langley arguing that the US should take out the al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan, and then go home. Agency folks know the history of that nation, and how it's been a graveyard for Russians, Brits, etc. It's always been "Me against my brother; my brother and I against YOU". It cannot be tamed anymore than a cobra can be tamed. The Bush Administration ignored the White Paper and the quagmire began. The issue then became figuring out a way to define 'victory' so that someone could say we achieved it.

 

The felon set the withdrawal in motion, albeit with no plan. He ordered the release of 5000 Taliban jihadis, some of whom now run the country. Biden just followed the time table he inherited. There was never a way to withdraw all the material and personnel without losing hundreds more troops and contractors, because the Taliban would continue to take parting shots. Sadly, the airport bombing happened, but imagine the criticism if a so-called "orderly withdrawal" over a year---required at a minimum to take out 20 years worth of equipment---had resulted in another thousand American deaths, as it would have.

 

As for the felon with bone spurs, neither he nor anyone in his family tree since they migrated to the United States ever served. Not even one.

 

Biden, of course, did not serve either. His son Beau did serve, in Iraq, and was awarded the Bronze Star.

 

The saddest thing about Beau is that if he hadn't gotten cancer, HRC would never have been the 2016 candidate, Biden would have crushed the felon, and the felon would be doing what he is actually capable of doing: running his business into the ground, but funding it via his Game Show.

[riclag]

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Wanted to donate but I am afraid that the Democrats might get a hold of the contributor list and prosecute me for wrong think. So I gave my 25 bucks to a friend of mine who's heading to a bundling party. He's a lawyer and can go pro se if they chase him

It is a concern ! Its hard to beat  a weaponized justice system . 
And a corrupt Potus who helps in dem convicting the leading candidate 

for president.

“We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run, making sure he — under legitimate efforts of our Constitution — does not become the next president again,” Biden said.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-suggests-trump-not-power-223246645.html

 

[G_Money]

15 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Yes, it took LBJ a whole year after the election to pass the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

 

Which Republicans are still attacking.

“Which Republicans are still attacking “

 

Extremely vague statement without substance.

 

You need to be specific.  Or what you post means absolutely nothing.

 

Surprised I even have to bring this up to another claimed advanced degreed scientist, jail house lawyer, climate “expert”  and accountant.

I may of left out a few more.

[Yagoda]

26 minutes ago, G_Money said:

And your proof?

 

Even if what you claim is correct, how exactly do you know “I don’t care “.  You have evidence or just another person living in fantasy land making up claims as you shuffle through life.

 

 

Its their philosophical underpinning: the utopia. Their fantasyland where the benign elite rule the proles. By any means necessary, and those  who cling to guns, god and Trump are in the way of progress and must be crushed.

 

Off to the dustbin of history, cried Lev Davidovich. Until Ramon Mercader, at the behest of the utopia, cracked his skull with an ice ax.

 

Even now, as they are still fighting to crush the enemy, they are eating their own. Robspierre learned that lesson.

[riclag]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Dont confuse the term liberal with todays Democratic Left.

 

Liberals classicly were freedom lovers, followers of Locke and Jefferson, personal freedom and responsibility.

 

Todays modern left/ Democrats are Leninists.  Essentially, the Klan without Hoods and Nazis without Swastikas. They dont miss points, they ignore them.  They treat blacks as subhumans, women as non existent, free speech as a threat, Jews as the enemy, America as the greatest evil in the world, political opponents as cult members or deplorables or uneducated mouth breathing rednecks. They weaponize government against their enemies. They make allies and discard them as circumstances require which is why their movement is replete with contradiction. Queers for Palestine, Jews for Hamas., BLM., White Supremecists, Feminists for Trannies in Female Sports. For example they will claim the other side are white supremicists because some fringe loon supports a republican candidate  all the while while funding and cheering on anti semtic demonstrations. Or my fav, claiming they are patriots while proudly flaunting what they call hate speech in others as they work to undermine their own country. Remmeber, that flag  flying for years in front of a California government building is hate speech only if it flies in front of a Supreme Court justices beach house. Thats they way Progressives roll, because they are "Progressive", all things to reach their desired outcome are morally correct. As Lenin said:

 

"We reject any morality based on extra-human and extra-class concepts. We say that this is deception, dupery, stultification of the workers and peasants in the interests of the landowners and capitalists.We say that our morality is entirely subordinated to the interests of the proletariat's class struggle. Our morality stems from the interests of the class struggle of the proletariat."

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/oct/02.htm

 

 

Brilliantly composed

 

[Walker88]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

It is a concern ! Its hard to beat  a weaponized justice system . 
And a corrupt Potus who helps in dem convicting the leading candidate 

for president.

“We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run, making sure he — under legitimate efforts of our Constitution — does not become the next president again,” Biden said.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-suggests-trump-not-power-223246645.html

 

I think you need to know what a weaponized justice system actually means.

 

Try this:

 

A few weeks before the 2020 election, the felon told his AG Barr to arrest Biden and his entire family. Barr said there were no grounds for any indictment, so refused.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-ag-barr-indict-joe-biden-26-days-until-election-1537518

 

(Many other LINKS exist, if you don't like Newsweek, You will even find that the felon spoke of his desire to arrest Biden on a Fox interview with Maria Bartiromo.)

 

Oh, and what do you think the odds are that BOTH James Comey and Andrew McCabe would be audited in the same year, as they were in 2019?  That kind of smells like a weaponized IRS.

 

As for the felon, he tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power. He stole thousands of classified documents. Those are crimes. It isn't "weaponization of justice", it's just "justice". Another name for it is "rule of law", or "law and order".

 

There used to be a political Party in the US that claimed to be the Party of law and order. They are long gone now, having been replaced by a Snake Oil Salesman (and felon) and a Cult. Heck they don't even like democracy or the US Constitution anymore, as their leader tried to stop the first, and announced plans to suspend and change the second if elected again.

 

 

[Yagoda]

33 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Got the sheepskin, got the accent, but am still at my university playing weight. Not bulbous, nor rotund, nor portly. I know what 6'3" and 235 lbs is supposed to look like, and it sure as hell isn't the felon. Not that it matters, as prison cell beds can accommodate a range of body shapes and sizes, but he's a lot closer to 6' 1/2" and 325 lbs. I know Obama is 6'1" and Michelle Obama is that when she's in heels, and when they all took a pic together before the poorly attended Inauguration in 2016, the three of them were about the same, with Barack slightly taller.

 

By the way, had I known that my jersey number was the cause of so much teeth gnashing, I would have not only changed it, but advised Lynn Swann to do the same.

OK Mr. CIA agent hahahaha. 

 

Methinks you do protest too much. Lynn Swann retired in 1982.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4644742/2023/06/27/italy-serie-a-anti-semitism-88/

 

 

[Rimmer]

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[watthong]

44 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Why would a racist, misogynist, adulterer, convicted criminal, and habitual liar be a bonus? Bizarre

 

38 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Why is it bizarre to like someone with flaws? Your mom likes YOU doesnt she?

 

No, it's not at all bizarre, in fact uber normal when Mom "likes" her child - no, let's me correct myself, Mom LOVES her child despite said child being "someone with flaws."

 

But it's indeed bizarre when someone regarded "a racist, misogynist, adulterer, convicted criminal, and habitual liar be a bonus" in his or her political/social world view. Unless, as the saying goes, "birds of a feather tend to flock together." (Please don't make me state the obvious.)

 

Anyway what I'm saying is the mother-likes-child analogy in this context is facetious, if not moronic. Again, it's funny how fools think they can fool other people with their scattered brains, cranium-crammed garbage-in/garbage-out "logic." But as the world turns...

[Walker88]

I suspect that as we approach November and the election, the felon (if he isn't already in prison) is going to turn his whining crybaby scorn toward RFK, jr, rather than Biden, because RFK, Jr isn't going to siphon off any Biden voters, but rather just MAGAs and/or independents.  RFK, Jr is going to be Perot '92, Nader '00 and Stein '16 all rolled into one. What he siphons off will be enough to guarantee MI, WI, PA, AZ, NV and possibly even FL for Joe Biden.

 

RFK, Jr.'s schtick is "crazy". He'll pull many anti-vaxxers (already supporters of the felon) and might be able to pull many QAnons, who are almost half of the (R) voters (as they are exclusively (R) and around 23% of Americans are QAnon). RFK, Jr fits the whole Q thing better anyway, as one of the quadrains or suras or whatever the pronouncements from the fellow known as Q are called, says that in Phase II someone (right now it's the felon) is going to introduce JFK, Jr in Dallas, as JFK, Jr isn't really dead, but just waiting for his time to come to wipe away all of the evil pedophiles and baby eaters. Who better to announce the return of JFK, Jr than his blood cousin?

 

If some reading this think it's all batshoot crazy, then you have never been to a MAGA rally. Pamphlets detailing this sort of stuff are sold by vendors all around the felon's rallies, usually next to the stalls selling closeouts of "Hillary For Prison '16" t-shirts.

 

Even the felon himself has said there's a lot there re QAnon. I will give him credit and say I doubt he believes the Q nonsense, but if he can capture than sizable demographic, he isn't averse to a little sucking up to the moonbats.

 

 

Edited June 3 by Walker88

[CharlieH]

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[Walker88]

25 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

 

 

Methinks you do protest too much. Lynn Swann retired in 1982.

 

 

 

 

Yes, but I was always fond of his playing style and balletic grace. He can have his shirt in Canton, Oh changed, so as not to cause confusion.

 

I see you never addressed the facts I noted re which candidate captures the Neo Nazi, anti-semitic, & KKK demographics.

 

Those "very fine people" in Charlottesville, along with Mar-a-Lago dinner guest Nick Fuentes, and endorsements from Neo Nazi Richard Spencer and former Imperial Wizard of the KKK David Duke are all MAGA.

[Presto]

25 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Reported posts removed

Just a question: does the poster who's post is removed by a moderator, receive a message or notification that it is removed? And the reasons for removal?

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

Yes, but I was always fond of his playing style and balletic grace. He can have his shirt in Canton, Oh changed, so as not to cause confusion.

 

I see you never addressed the facts I noted re which candidate captures the Neo Nazi, anti-semitic, & KKK demographics.

 

Those "very fine people" in Charlottesville, along with Mar-a-Lago dinner guest Nick Fuentes, and endorsements from Neo Nazi Richard Spencer and former Imperial Wizard of the KKK David Duke are all MAGA.

Ill see your imaginary quote and irrelevant Jew Haters and raise you Hamas, BLM,  SJP, Sandy Cortez, Louis Farrakhan (a real Hitler lover), Al Sharpton, the Iranian Mullahs, Rash Talib, Jeremiah Wright, Jamal Bowman. Policy makers.  Im not even going through your pantheon of dead heroes like Yassir Arafat. 

 

Your heroes and allies. Jew Haters and America Haters.  Not some powerless loons Like Spencer and Duke who I daresay are far more at home with the lot and party and philosophy that chants from the River to the Seas and lets our FELLOW AMERICAN HOSTAGES rot, rot, rot in the clutches of murderous antisemitic rapists and killers while doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to save them. 

 

Nothing. Fellow Americans. Oh right, they are Jews too, never mind.

 

Thats your crowd. 

 

Here is how your gang works: Pine Tree Flag when flown by a Conservative? Symbol of Insurrection. Notorious, well known anti semitic code number as part of a user name? Football jersey.

 

Folks can make up their own mind. Toodle-oo

 

 

[earlinclaifornia]

If what I am reading, if things stay, Trump it appears can lose votes.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

If what I am reading, if things stay, Trump it appears can lose votes.

Source? Polls in Claifornia?

[Walker88]

17 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Ill see your imaginary quote and irrelevant Jew Haters and raise you Hamas, BLM,  SJP, Sandy Cortez, Louis Farrakhan (a real Hitler lover), Al Sharpton, the Iranian Mullahs, Rash Talib, Jeremiah Wright, Jamal Bowman. Policy makers.  Im not even going through your pantheon of dead heroes like Yassir Arafat. 

 

Your heroes and allies. Jew Haters and America Haters.  Not some powerless loons Like Spencer and Duke who I daresay are far more at home with the lot and party and philosophy that chants from the River to the Seas and lets our FELLOW AMERICAN HOSTAGES rot, rot, rot in the clutches of murderous antisemitic rapists and killers while doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to save them. 

 

Nothing. Fellow Americans. Oh right, they are Jews too, never mind.

 

Thats your crowd. 

 

Here is how your gang works: Pine Tree Flag when flown by a Conservative? Symbol of Insurrection. Notorious, well known anti semitic code number as part of a user name? Football jersey.

 

Folks can make up their own mind. Toodle-oo

 

 

The "imaginary quote" can still be found on YouTube. The felon uttered it in front of dozens of cameras and microphones.

 

The felon's "very fine people" about those chanting "Jews will not replace us" almost had economic adviser Steve Cohn resign.

 

Not sure what Iranian Mullahs and Yasir Arafat have to do with my post. You display all the attributes of a racist, projecting all sorts of things on someone simply because of an old football jersey. We are not supposed to be unkind on this site, but you are rather weird. Maybe in the demntia zone?  Just bizarre.

 

Anyway, you can stop with the silliness about my 88. (I'm okay with it, Mods; he's just a trollish loon). You're obviously as obsessed as my vertically challenged little stalker. Under your bizarre rules, people should forget such things as the year of their birth, the year of their graduation, and all wide receivers who wore that number on their football jerseys should go back in time and choose maybe 11 (Julian Edelman, another personal favorite).

 

 

Edited June 3 by Walker88

[Hanaguma]

18 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

The "imaginary quote" can still be found on YouTube. The felon uttered it in front of dozens of cameras and microphones.

 

The felon's "very fine people" about those chanting "Jews will not replace us" almost had economic adviser Steve Cohn resign.

 

Not sure what Iranian Mullahs and Yasir Arafat have to do with my post. You display all the attributes of a racist, projecting all sorts of things on someone simply because of an old football jersey. We are not supposed to be unkind on this site, but you are rather weird. Maybe in the demntia zone?  Just bizarre.

 

Anyway, you can stop with the silliness about my 88. (I'm okay with it, Mods; he's just a trollish loon). You're obviously as obsessed as my vertically challenged little stalker. Under your bizarre rules, people should forget such things as the year of their birth, the year of their graduation, and all wide receivers who wore that number on their football jerseys should go back in time and choose maybe 11 (Julian Edelman, another personal favorite).

 

 

Ah, the oft debunked "very fine people on both sides" quote.  Needs a bit of context, my friend.  He was talking about those who were protesting the removal of statues of Confederate heroes.  He also said that he was NOT talking about the neo Nazis and white supremacists, who should be condemned totally. 

[Walker88]

15 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Although I myself am a fat slimy scumbag, I can take the abuse that I deserve. That being said, all I can now think about is a threesome with those two and Chris Christie, complete with some large pepperoni pies and a gallon of crisco. 

 

Epic.

One of the guys you called a "nobody", Nick Fuentes, the Holocaust denying white supremacist who was invited for dinner with the felon at Mar-a-Lago, is so much of a "nobody" that (besides being big enough to get a Mar-a-Lago dinner invite):

 

---The ADL issued a special report on him (they did not do that on Lynn Swann, Drew Pearson, or CeeDee Lamb).

 

---Rep Paul Gosar (R) AZ, a member of the Freedom Caucus and a virulent supporter of the felon, scheduled a fundraising event where Fuentes was to speak. Gosar considered Fuentes THAT much of a draw. The promotion material had photos of Gosar and Fuentes sitting together.

 

After criticism from Jewish groups, Gosar cancelled the fundraiser and claimed he didn't know Fuentes, which is, of course, a bald face lie. I guess he learned bald faced lying from the mendacious felon himself, who now claims he never said "Lock Her Up" about Hillary Clinton.

 

The felon really does epitomize the old saw, "How do you know he's lying?"

 

His lips are moving.

 

You can do your own work to see how sizable the followings are of Fuentes, Spencer and Duke. The felon welcomes them all, plus QAnon, tikitorch marchers, and other miscreants. "Very fine people".

 

The felon lacks the courage and honesty of the late John McCain, who faced down a bigoted woman in one of the Carolinas who called Barack Obama a Moslem. The felon wouldn't know character or integrity if it was included in every Big Bucket from KFC.

[Walker88]

21 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Ah, the oft debunked "very fine people on both sides" quote.  Needs a bit of context, my friend.  He was talking about those who were protesting the removal of statues of Confederate heroes.  He also said that he was NOT talking about the neo Nazis and white supremacists, who should be condemned totally. 

AFTER the fact.

 

Ask former economic adviser Steve Cohn what the felon said, and what the felon intended. Cohn was---and perhaps still is--outraged...and Cohn was standing right near him at the time.

 

You simply cannot say "on both sides" and mean anything less than that, when one side is people protesting the removal of statues of men who supported slavery plus people chanting "Jews will not replace us". THAT is one side.

 

The felon is always 'correcting' himself after the fact, when it proves unpopular.

 

In Helsinki, he said (about Putin interfering in the election), "I don't know why he would". The next day Dan Scavino issued a statement saying the felon actually meant to say "wouldn't".

 

When the felon suggested injecting Lysol and sticking a UV light somewhere, the next day the WHPO issued a statement saying he was just joking. That didn't work any better, as a President joking about a worldwide pandemic that was killing millions and shutting down trade is rather untoward and inappropriate.

 

Now the felon is saying he never spoke about 'locking up" Hillary.

 

Lying and spin are his MO.

 

It's like his 6 Jan Mall speech...he said "peacefully" one time, and then "fight" more than 30 times. What does any rational person think his MAGAs in the audience, with their baseball bats and bear spray and other weapons are going to think he REALLY wants?  When he sat idle for 187 minutes while watching what we all saw on TV (cops beaten, gallows erected, Hang Mike Pence chants), it was clear to any sane person what he wanted.

Edited June 3 by Walker88

[Roo Island]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

It is a concern ! Its hard to beat  a weaponized justice system . 
And a corrupt Potus who helps in dem convicting the leading candidate 

for president.

“We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run, making sure he — under legitimate efforts of our Constitution — does not become the next president again,” Biden said.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-suggests-trump-not-power-223246645.html

 

How did Biden weaponize NY's justice system?

 

Sadly, Biden is spot on. We don't need a convicted criminal as president

[earlinclaifornia]

Trump is now a convicted felon. Anyone who thinks this is going to strengthen him as a candidate is delusional. He has three more upcoming criminal trials. His company Trump Org. has been found liable $500 million for persistent fraud. He keeps on losing, and will lose again in November.

[Roo Island]

55 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Source? Polls in Claifornia?

The big swing will be with independents, which as you know, is the largest political party. Republicans being the smallest.

[Roo Island]

29 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Ah, the oft debunked "very fine people on both sides" quote.  Needs a bit of context, my friend.  He was talking about those who were protesting the removal of statues of Confederate heroes.  He also said that he was NOT talking about the neo Nazis and white supremacists, who should be condemned totally. 

Source?

[Rimmer]

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[Walker88]

12 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Source?

I replied to him.

 

The "sides" were of a line, not a triangle or rectangle. One side, and the other side.

 

One 'side" went to Charlottesville to protest taking down statues of men who fought for and supported human bondage. Those same people did the tikitorch march chanting "Jews will not replace us". That is one of two sides. Finished.

 

"Some very fine people...on both sides" is what he said. Since the "sides" are limited to 2, that means the slavery proponents and Jew haters are, according to the felon, some very fine people. The two sides ended up fighting each other. The fighting and the death of an anti-slavery woman at the hands of a tickitorcher, is what prompted the felon's presser and resulted in the "both sides" comment.

 

They were his backers then, they are his backers now.

 

Remember the terrorists who carried Confederate flags into the Capitol on 6 January? They were not Biden voters.

Edited June 3 by Walker88

[Presto]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

I’m sure you can provide evidence of your claim, correct?

 

Nothing and I mean nothing works harder than a BUTTON on Alvin Braggs suit or Leticia James pantsuit.

I haven’t even gotten around to Biden’s hair plugs yet!

 

Proof provided!

 

 

Just as an aside, responding to your whataboutism: Biden doesn't lie about his height or his weight. I don't think it matters to him, it matters to Trump.

I'm 10 years younger than Biden, and I'm glad my hair doesn't look like that. I'm happy to keep it at 2 mm. No implants necessary, though balding since 35.

Some say: look at Biden, he rides a bicycle! Regularly!

I think it looks embarrassing. I've (of course) been riding bicycles my whole life, 15 years serious racing. 

When I get to the point of riding a bike like Biden, I'll just stop.

I'm not a fan of Biden at all.

[Hanaguma]

7 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I replied to him.

 

The "sides" were of a line, not a triangle or rectangle. One side, and the other side.

 

One 'side" went to Charlottesville to protest taking down statues of men who fought for and supported human bondage. Those same people did the tikitorch march chanting "Jews will not replace us". That is one of two sides. Finished.

 

"Some very fine people...on both sides" is what he said. Since the "sides" are limited to 2, that means the slavery proponents and Jew haters are, according to the felon, some very fine people. The two sides ended up fighting each other. The fighting and the death of an anti-slavery woman at the hands of a tickitorcher, is what prompted the felon's presser and resulted in the "both sides" comment.

 

They were his backers then, they are his backers now.

 

Remember the terrorists who carried Confederate flags into the Capitol on 6 January? They were not Biden voters.

Glenn Kessler, Washington Post, fact check.

[Presto]

14 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Glenn Kessler, Washington Post, fact check.

I remember the press briefings where Trump uttered those words, almost yelling at the press. And always insulting them, they just took it.

It's a pity the White House press corps didn't have the guts to follow up and push Trump to explain what exactly did he mean.

Edited June 3 by Presto

[freeworld]

Was just reading on yahoo news that Donald Trump is barred from 37 countries due to his conviction unless he seeks and is granted special permissions to enter.

 

 

''Donald Trump Is Banned from 37 Countries as Convicted Felon, Including Major Allies Like Canada and U.K''