Harvard Scientists Suggest UFOs May Indicate a Hidden Civilization on Earth

[Thailand]

23 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

maybe "skinwalker ranch" is a hoax, but it is interesting to see some of the things they find. 

personally, i would hate to think we are alone in this great big whatever we live in. science fiction has a way of becoming science fact...

A hoax, shirley knot?

[Stargeezr]

So Area 51 in the USA holds a lot of secrets?

[digger70]

On 6/14/2024 at 3:38 AM, Social Media said:

Harvard researchers emphasize the importance of keeping an open mind.

Oh yes , And keep ones eyes open .

No one has ever 100% Identified/ Proven with Real  100 % Clear Pictures and or  with  an 100% clear Video that there are Space ships  /UFO's and or Creatures of outer space No matter Green ones from Mars (they say) or any other color or shape.

 

Until Anything  is Proven  there isn't any reason to Believe any of  this story or legend about supernatural or mythical characters or events.

[mogandave]

Was this not just a movie?

[mogandave]

Those Harvard guys are really fart-smellers I mean smart fellas.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, digger70 said:

Oh yes , And keep ones eyes open .

No one has ever 100% Identified/ Proven with Real  100 % Clear Pictures and or  with  an 100% clear Video that there are Space ships  /UFO's and or Creatures of outer space No matter Green ones from Mars (they say) or any other color or shape.

 

Until Anything  is Proven  there isn't any reason to Believe any of  this story or legend about supernatural or mythical characters or events.

Unless anyone believes that we humans are the smartest species in the universe, it has to be a possibility that they are in the vicinity. IMO waiting to make sure that Elon's Mars shuttle doesn't work, but if it does destroying it. No way any intelligent species wants a bunch of warmongers from Earth loose in the galaxy.

[Hummin]

On 6/14/2024 at 4:19 AM, sikishrory said:

It's interesting how the US always seem to be the ones going on about aliens. I don't see any other countries talking about it with the same interest or legitimacy.

Yeh there are some very strange things that don't make sense but aliens living in the ground. Hmmm

We are all aliens!

 

Simple as that

 

 

We Are the Aliens

The emergence of the human “dataome” is like a sudden invasion of Earth

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-are-the-aliens1/

[digger70]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unless anyone believes that we humans are the smartest species in the universe, it has to be a possibility that they are in the vicinity. IMO waiting to make sure that Elon's Mars shuttle doesn't work, but if it does destroying it. No way any intelligent species wants a bunch of warmongers from Earth loose in the galaxy.

possibility that they are in the vicinity

Possibility means Nothing  only Proven  Identified  is for real.

 

[kwilco]

On 6/13/2024 at 9:38 PM, Social Media said:

 

Harvard University researchers have proposed a startling theory: extraterrestrial beings may already be living among us, possibly residing in advanced technological civilizations deep underground or in a base on the moon. This provocative idea is detailed in a new paper from Harvard's Human Flourishing Program, which delves into the enigmatic phenomenon of "unidentified anomalous phenomena" (UAP), more commonly known as UFOs.

 

The study paper, titled The Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis: A Case for Scientific Openness to a Concealed Earthly Explanation for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena,"** advocates for a broader consideration of potential explanations for UAPs. The authors, Tim Lomas, Brendan Case, and Michael Paul Masters, argue that the scientific community should adopt a spirit of "epistemic humility and openness" when investigating these phenomena.

 

Exploring New Frontiers

Traditionally, explanations for UAPs have been divided into two main categories: conventional terrestrial explanations, such as human-made technology, and extraterrestrial explanations, involving advanced civilizations from other parts of the cosmos. However, the Harvard researchers propose a third, less conventional category: an unconventional terrestrial explanation. This hypothesis suggests that UAPs could be the result of advanced civilizations that have developed on Earth, separate from known human history.

 

The paper outlines several "cryptoterrestrial" hypotheses (CTH) to explain these unidentified phenomena:

 

1. Temporal or Extraterrestrial Visitors:** Cryptoterrestrials might have arrived on Earth from another time period or planet and have concealed themselves using advanced stealth technologies.
2. Parallel Evolution:** An intelligent species could have evolved separately from humans on Earth, possibly as descendants of unknown intelligent dinosaurs or ape-like ancestors.
3. Ancient Remnant Civilizations:** A remnant form of an ancient civilization could still exist on Earth, having survived a catastrophic event like a flood or another natural disaster.
4. Supernatural Entities:** This theory entertains the possibility of "earthbound angels" or other supernatural beings, likened to fairies, elves, or nymphs, existing in a hidden capacity.

 

The authors acknowledge the skepticism that their theories will likely encounter, particularly the suggestion of supernatural entities like elves or fairies. They admit that such ideas may seem far-fetched, especially to those accustomed to the standard model of physics. "While belief in extraterrestrials is tenable, belief in (something like) fairies is simply not a live option for many scientists," the paper concedes.

 

The Growing Interest in UFOs

Interest in UFOs and UAPs has surged in recent years, driven by both public fascination and governmental concern. Lawmakers and military officials worldwide have called for more research, often framing the issue as one of national and planetary security. Last year, David Grusch, a career intelligence officer turned whistleblower, testified before Congress, alleging that the U.S. government has been hiding a long-standing program dedicated to retrieving and reverse-engineering UFOs. Grusch claimed to have been tasked with identifying all highly classified programs related to UAPs. However, the Pentagon has denied these claims, stating that investigators have not found any verifiable evidence to support the existence of such programs.

 

NASA has also weighed in on the matter, stating that while the search for extraterrestrial life is a key priority, there is currently no credible evidence to suggest that UAPs are of extraterrestrial origin. "One of NASA’s key priorities is the search for life elsewhere in the universe, but so far, NASA has not found any credible evidence of extraterrestrial life and there is no evidence that UAPs are extraterrestrial," a NASA statement read.

 

Government Response and Public Perception

The Harvard paper addresses the U.S. government's response to UAP sightings, noting that many people believe federal officials are deliberately downplaying or obscuring the extraordinary nature of many UAP-related events. This perception of obfuscation contributes to public mistrust and fuels further speculation about the true nature of these phenomena. The paper has yet to undergo peer review and will soon be published in the journal *Philosophy and Cosmology*. The authors hope that by proposing these unconventional hypotheses, they can stimulate a broader and more open-minded scientific inquiry into the mysteries of UAPs.

 

Conclusion

While the idea of hidden civilizations on Earth may seem like the stuff of science fiction, the Harvard researchers emphasize the importance of keeping an open mind. As our understanding of the universe and our place within it continues to evolve, so too must our willingness to explore all possible explanations for the phenomena we observe. Whether or not the cryptoterrestrial hypothesis holds water, it represents a bold step toward a more inclusive and imaginative approach to scientific inquiry.

 

Credit: Global News CA 2024-06-14

 

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goes to show even the brightst peopole can be total crackpots!

[kwilco]

9 hours ago, digger70 said:

that they are in the vicinity.

clearly not even the smartest person on this thread!

[Katatonica]

On 6/14/2024 at 7:52 AM, EVENKEEL said:

Ironic innit, when the white lab coats tell you to wear masks and stay home folks jump to but when they present an alternative theory regarding out civilization they're laughed at.

Not to mention that billions of people are actually brainwashed into believing in gods, for heaven’s sake..

[Katatonica]

8 hours ago, kwilco said:

goes to show even the brightst peopole can be total crackpots!

Better not to even think about stuff then is it?

Edited June 16 by Katatonica
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[Katatonica]

On 6/14/2024 at 10:28 AM, Purdey said:

It's the speed of light that is the obstacle to inter Galaxy travel. 

The idea that anything with advanced technology could hide on earth with all the satellites we have today is another obstacle to belief.

The US air force chase unidentified objects on a literal daily basis.

[superal]

On 6/15/2024 at 7:37 AM, nobodysfriend said:

 

That's right .

Too many to even imagine ...

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100909004112.htm

 

The report describes how one of the supposed fundamental constants of Nature appears not to be constant after all. Instead, this 'magic number' known as the fine-structure constant -- 'alpha' for short -- appears to vary throughout the universe.

 

"After measuring alpha in around 300 distant galaxies, a consistency emerged: this magic number, which tells us the strength of electromagnetism, is not the same everywhere as it is here on Earth, and seems to vary continuously along a preferred axis through the universe,"

" ...our observable part of the universe favours the existence of life and human beings, other far more distant regions may exist where different laws preclude the formation of life, at least as we know it."

"If our results are correct, clearly we shall need new physical theories to satisfactorily describe them."

 

But still , as far as we know by now , for matter of any kind it is not possible to surpass the speed of light ...

50 years ago most scientists agreed that we on planet Earth were probably alone throughout all planetary systems . That opinion has changed as more and more planets are discovered that have a similar atmosphere to the Earth . All aspects of space travel are based on what we have for propulsion . I believe that an open mind is best on this subject . 

One of many mysteries are factual and tangible evidence , e.g. in many countries there are drawings , carried out by cave  dwellers , of space craft etc. These drawings were made thousands of years before any kind of aircraft were invented . They painted what they saw ,  along with wild life animal drawings . Also not forgetting many huge and heavy structures that were built by ancient civilizations without heavy lifting equipment . Other evidence , videos supplied by the USA Air force of UFOs cannot be denied . Open mind is my belief .

[stoner]

23 hours ago, Stargeezr said:

So Area 51 in the USA holds a lot of secrets?

 

42. 

[impulse]

20 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unless anyone believes that we humans are the smartest species in the universe, it has to be a possibility that they are in the vicinity. IMO waiting to make sure that Elon's Mars shuttle doesn't work, but if it does destroying it. No way any intelligent species wants a bunch of warmongers from Earth loose in the galaxy.

 

Gotta say, that's one of the few areas where I disagree with Musk.  Giving the rich and powerful any hope that there is a Plan B if we completely screw up the earth...  Not a good idea.

 

Edit:  Especially since they'll take all the hotties and leave the rest of us with the notties.

 

Edited June 16 by impulse

[kwilco]

2 hours ago, Katatonica said:

Better not to even think about stuff then is it?

It really depends on your thinking abilities.

Critical thinking is a discipline.

Science is based on this discipline but it is still quite possible for even the most erudite to lose track of this.

It is also very common for the media to cherry pick and distort what was originally a perfectly rational theory.