MalcolmB Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, transam said: Jesus was King of the Jews, Yeah right, and his mother was a virgin and his dad was Santa Claus. The cost of living is smashing many back home now, we shouldn’t be wasting tax payers hard earned dollars on religious nutters. Get rid of them all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmB Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, transam said: Well, no, I have a Christian background, a "real" Knight, ta boot...😝 Knight Rider in his Transam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said: Yeah right, and his mother was a virgin and his dad was Santa Claus. The cost of living is smashing many back home now, we shouldn’t be wasting tax payers hard earned dollars on religious nutters. Get rid of them all. Brits and Jewish folk have lived in harmony for centuries, so you don't like Jews, try thinking before you post......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said: Knight Rider in his Transam That is as far back as you can think, we know that, I referred to the 13th century...😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, placeholder said: So, you define mere speech as "supporting a terrorist organization"? Material support is one thing, speech quite another. The laws are pretty clear on what defines support to a terrorist organization, some forms of speech are included. Incitement is an example, there are others. Edited June 17 by Chomper Higgot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The laws are pretty clear on what defines supper to a terrorist organization, some forms of speech are included. Incitement is an example, there are others. Such as this: encouraging terrorism, including publishing statements that encourage and glorify terrorist acts https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/396159/CT-1-M4.pdf That doesn't strike you as being somewhat elastic? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmB Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 6 minutes ago, transam said: That is as far back as you can think, we know that, I referred to the 13th century...😉 He must be rolling in his grave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The laws are pretty clear on what defines supper to a terrorist organization, some forms of speech are included. Incitement is an example, there are others. And apparently, the authorities felt this person constituted such a threat to public safety that he is no longer detained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 minute ago, MalcolmB said: He must be rolling in his grave. I doubt it........🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: And apparently, the authorities felt this person constituted such a threat to public safety that he is no longer detained. He is on bail, his offence was verbal, now come on, is there anything you actually understand.........🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 31 minutes ago, transam said: Costing you..........😂 The UK is basically a Christian country, Jesus was King of the Jews, your Muslims are the odd ones out...........🤭 I thought you were an Aussie......🤔 The Jews reject Jesus - DYOR 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 You might not like what he says but as long as it does NOT incite violence then he should have the freedom to speak. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Just now, BobBKK said: The Jews reject Jesus - DYOR Up to them, none of my business, so don't go off-topic over it...........🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Just now, BobBKK said: You might not like what he says but as long as it does NOT incite violence then he should have the freedom to speak. Is that what your Red folk do, I don't think so, they get sent to an icy jail or worse....🥶............😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, transam said: Up to them, none of my business, so don't go off-topic over it...........🙄 I think it was YOU who brought up Jesus and the Jews? Anyway, I agree it is off-topic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 minute ago, transam said: Is that what your Red folk do, I don't think so, they get sent to an icy jail or worse....🥶............😂 Red folk? I'm a Chelsea fan not Liverpool - do keep up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 25 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Red folk? I'm a Chelsea fan not Liverpool - do keep up! I do not follow football at all........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, BritManToo said: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Maybe we should just all try and be nice to everyone. Then what would be the point of social media and forums! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoExpat Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, MalcolmB said: Are you Jewish by any chance? Another Jew sniffer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Typical UK BS. So glad I left 40 years ago, and it's gone downhill ever since. You should be able to support your side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, placeholder said: In this case the perpetrator posed such a major threat that he was released on bail. He didn't stay rounded up for long. In Europe, terrorism is a very concerning topic, as we have seen our people die from it. There is no way to scare terrorists once they have decided to be a terrorist, because they are ready to die. However, terrorism doesn't come out in a vacuum. A short look at the personal history of terrorists shows that they have followed a trajectory, such as first being exposed to radical ideas, then being progressively convinced and involved, then being helped, etc...Terrorists are fed ideas and information, supported, sheltered, by an ecosystem. It may be in social networks, mosques, etc... Participants in this ecosystem are not necessarily bad, they may just be stupid. It's probably the case of the guy in the O.P.. It's also probably the case of the guy who lended a flat to the terrorists who slaughtered people in Paris years ago. He found them a bit strange, but after all, "it wasn't his business". Such people can be scared and must be scared to get involved in anything related to terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, transam said: I do not follow football at all........... Chelsea are blue 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, candide said: In Europe, terrorism is a very concerning topic, as we have seen our people die from it. There is no way to scare terrorists once they have decided to be a terrorist, because they are ready to die. However, terrorism doesn't come out in a vacuum. A short look at the personal history of terrorists shows that they have followed a trajectory, such as first being exposed to radical ideas, then being progressively convinced and involved, then being helped, etc...Terrorists are fed ideas and information, supported, sheltered, by an ecosystem. It may be in social networks, mosques, etc... Participants in this ecosystem are not necessarily bad, they may just be stupid. It's probably the case of the guy in the O.P.. It's also probably the case of the guy who lended a flat to the terrorists who slaughtered people in Paris years ago. He found them a bit strange, but after all, "it wasn't his business". Such people can be scared and must be scared to get involved in anything related to terrorism. As I noted in the government snippet I quoted, the criteria seem very elastic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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