Popular Post Social Media Posted June 16, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 16, 2024 Eighty countries have united in a call for the "territorial integrity" of Ukraine to be the cornerstone of any peace agreement to end Russia's ongoing war. This declaration was issued at the conclusion of the Global Peace Summit held at a Swiss resort on June 16. The summit, initiated by Ukraine, underscored the international community's commitment to upholding Ukraine's sovereignty despite the notable absence of Russia and China. Russia's non-participation, coupled with China's decision to stay away, cast a shadow over the summit's potential for a breakthrough. Key nations such as India, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates, while present, refrained from signing the final document, which emphasized nuclear safety, food security, and the exchange of prisoners. The concluding statement affirmed that the UN Charter and respect for territorial integrity and sovereignty "can and will serve as a basis for achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in Ukraine." It further stated, "We believe that reaching peace requires the involvement of and dialogue between all parties." Swiss President Viola Amherd, who hosted the event, lauded the consensus reached among the majority of participants, noting, "The fact that the great majority of participants agreed to the final document shows what diplomacy can achieve." On the eve of the summit, Russian President Vladimir Putin issued stringent demands for a cease-fire, insisting that Ukraine cede control of four regions, including areas still under Ukrainian control. These demands were promptly rejected by Kyiv and its Western allies. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen criticized Putin's terms, stating, "It was not a peace negotiation because Putin is not serious about ending the war. He is insisting on capitulation. He is insisting on ceding Ukrainian territory—even territory that today is not occupied by him. He is insisting on disarming Ukraine, leaving it vulnerable to future aggression. No country would ever accept these outrageous terms." Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, speaking at the end of the two-day meeting in Burgenstock, expressed hope that the summit's support would help restore the rule of international law. "I hope that we can achieve results as soon as possible," Zelenskiy said. "We'll prove to everyone in the world that the UN Charter can be restored to full effectiveness." Zelenskiy's goal in hosting the summit was to rally more countries, particularly those from the Global South, to support Ukraine and keep global attention on Russia's brutal invasion. This effort has become increasingly urgent amid global fatigue with the protracted conflict, escalating violence in the Middle East, and rising concerns about Chinese aggression towards Taiwan. The summit marked the culmination of Zelenskiy's 19-month-long efforts to engage global leaders in resolving the biggest war in Europe since World War II. Switzerland's willingness to host the summit aimed to pave the way for a future peace process that includes Russia, though Zelenskiy opposed Russia's participation at this stage. The delegates' final declaration focused on three main issues: nuclear and food security and the return of prisoners of war and children taken from Ukraine during the conflict. Ihor Zhovkva, Zelenskiy's deputy chief of staff, explained that Kyiv prioritized these three issues because they garnered widespread international support. "The text is balanced. All of our principled positions on which Ukraine had insisted have been considered," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba stated. Kuleba also emphasized Ukraine's firm stance against Russia's current demands, "Of course we...understand perfectly that a time will come when it will be necessary to talk to Russia. But our position is very clear: We will not allow Russia to speak in the language of ultimatums like it is speaking now." A key decision pending at the summit was selecting the host country for a follow-up conference intended to build on the momentum from Switzerland. Saudi Arabia emerged as a leading candidate, with Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud expressing the kingdom's readiness to assist the peace process. However, he cautioned that achieving a viable settlement would require "difficult compromise." China, a staunch supporter of Russia, joined numerous countries in abstaining from the summit. Beijing maintained that any peace process must include both Russia and Ukraine and has proposed its own peace plan. On the summit's first day, Western leaders universally condemned Russia's invasion of Ukraine, invoking the UN Charter to defend Ukraine's territorial integrity and rejecting Putin's territorial demands. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez highlighted the fundamental nature of the conflict, "One thing is clear in this conflict: There is an aggressor, which is Putin, and there is a victim, which is the Ukrainian people." Georgian President Salome Zurabishvili echoed this sentiment, emphasizing the importance of recognizing and respecting territorial boundaries, "This international community, the new security architecture, can exist only when the big countries, the biggest of the biggest, recognize their neighbors, respect their neighbors and their territorial integrity." Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas underscored the non-negotiable principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity, "Sovereignty, territorial integrity, and discrediting aggression as a tool of statecraft are crucial principles that must be upheld in case of Ukraine and globally. That is why I'm concerned about so-called peace plans and initiatives that ignore the core UN Charter principles. We cannot treat Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty as somewhat secondary." Vice President Kamala Harris, representing the United States while President Joe Biden attended a fundraiser in California, reiterated America's unwavering support for Ukraine. She dismissed Putin's recent "peace" proposal as a call for Ukraine's surrender and announced $1.5 billion in new U.S. assistance for various projects, including energy infrastructure and civilian security. As the world watches, the summit's outcome signifies a strong international stance on Ukraine's sovereignty and a collective effort to seek a peaceful resolution. The global community's commitment, despite significant geopolitical challenges, underscores the importance of diplomacy and the principles enshrined in the UN Charter. As the process continues, the path to peace remains fraught with complexities, but the summit's achievements provide a foundation for future negotiations and the hope of restoring peace and stability in Ukraine. Credit: RFERL 2024-06-17 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 2 2
Popular Post Tug Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 Good now put the nessary material were your mouth is support Ukraine and boycott Russian products of all kinds! 1 2 2 1
thaibeachlovers Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 6 hours ago, Social Media said: Eighty countries have united in a call for the "territorial integrity" of Ukraine to be the cornerstone of any peace agreement to end Russia's ongoing war. This declaration was issued at the conclusion of the Global Peace Summit held at a Swiss resort on June 16. The summit, initiated by Ukraine, underscored the international community's commitment to upholding Ukraine's sovereignty despite the notable absence of Russia and China. despite the notable absence of Russia and China. What planet do those numpties live on? Can't be planet Earth. 2 1 1
phil2407 Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Why should Saudi Arabia hold the next / follow up meeting when they didn’t even sign the agreement?? 1
thaibeachlovers Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 2 hours ago, phil2407 said: Why should Saudi Arabia hold the next / follow up meeting when they didn’t even sign the agreement?? Perhaps because they are awash in our money and the pols want to get some of it back by selling them stuff. Generally described as sucking up. 2 1
Popular Post Gweiloman Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 On the summit's first day, Western leaders universally condemned Russia's Israel’s invasion of Ukraine Gaza,invoking the UN Charter to defend Ukraine's Palestine’s territorial integrity and rejecting Putin's Netanyahu’s territorial demands. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez highlighted the fundamental nature of the conflict, "One thing is clear in this conflict: There is an aggressor, which is Putin Netanyahu there is a victim, which is the Ukrainian Palestinian people." Georgian President Salome Zurabishvili echoed this sentiment, emphasizing the importance of recognizing and respecting territorial boundaries, "This international community, the new security architecture, can exist only when the big countries, the biggest of the biggest, recognize their neighbors, respect their neighbors and their territorial integrity." Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas underscored the non-negotiable principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity, "Sovereignty, territorial integrity, and discrediting aggression as a tool of statecraft are crucial principles that must be upheld in case of Ukraine Palestine and globally. That is why I'm concerned about so-called peace plans and initiatives that ignore the core UN Charter principles. We cannot treat Ukraine's Palestine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty as somewhat secondary." What do some of you think about the above edits? 1 1 3 1 4
Popular Post Gweiloman Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 Isn’t it sad that even those that ostensibly support Ukraine by virtue of their attendance couldn’t even agree unanimously on such straightforward matters as nuclear and food security? What a farce of a summit and to think it’s the culmination of 19 months of jet setting around the world by that man in a green t-shirt… 😂 1 1 3 1 3
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, Gweiloman said: Isn’t it sad that even those that ostensibly support Ukraine by virtue of their attendance couldn’t even agree unanimously on such straightforward matters as nuclear and food security? What a farce of a summit and to think it’s the culmination of 19 months of jet setting around the world by that man in a green t-shirt… 😂 That's how democracy works, it is not a world of sheep. Something Russia and China have no idea about 14 hours ago, Social Media said: On the summit's first day, Western leaders universally condemned Russia's invasion of Ukraine, invoking the UN Charter to defend Ukraine's territorial integrity and rejecting Putin's territorial demands. 14 hours ago, Social Media said: Eighty countries have united in a call for the "territorial integrity" of Ukraine to be the cornerstone of any peace agreement to end Russia's ongoing war. This declaration was issued at the conclusion of the Global Peace Summit held at a Swiss resort on June 16. 1 3 1
Popular Post transam Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 19 minutes ago, Gweiloman said: On the summit's first day, Western leaders universally condemned Russia's Israel’s invasion of Ukraine Gaza,invoking the UN Charter to defend Ukraine's Palestine’s territorial integrity and rejecting Putin's Netanyahu’s territorial demands. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez highlighted the fundamental nature of the conflict, "One thing is clear in this conflict: There is an aggressor, which is Putin Netanyahu there is a victim, which is the Ukrainian Palestinian people." Georgian President Salome Zurabishvili echoed this sentiment, emphasizing the importance of recognizing and respecting territorial boundaries, "This international community, the new security architecture, can exist only when the big countries, the biggest of the biggest, recognize their neighbors, respect their neighbors and their territorial integrity." Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas underscored the non-negotiable principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity, "Sovereignty, territorial integrity, and discrediting aggression as a tool of statecraft are crucial principles that must be upheld in case of Ukraine Palestine and globally. That is why I'm concerned about so-called peace plans and initiatives that ignore the core UN Charter principles. We cannot treat Ukraine's Palestine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty as somewhat secondary." What do some of you think about the above edits? I think you're a tool.......🥴 2 1 4
0ffshore360 Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 10 minutes ago, transam said: I think you're a tool.......🥴 Oh I say old chap, that's rather uncouth from a Sam Small that boasts a Knight in ancient past ! I can go one better Sirrah in that I can boast a Duke and an Earl. So under who's Coat of Arms did your lowly knight kneel? 1
transam Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said: Oh I say old chap, that's rather uncouth from a Sam Small that boasts a Knight in ancient past ! I can go one better Sirrah in that I can boast a Duke and an Earl. So under who's Coat of Arms did your lowly knight kneel? Hello Offy, where have you been, gazing out too sea, dreaming of home......? 🤗 Sounds like we are of the same cloth, though mine was actually chain mail, armour....🤭 In days of old, when Knights were bold, you get my drift, paying taxes to the King, not me personally, of course.......😉
Popular Post johng Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/16/key-global-powers-fail-to-sign-ukraines-peace-summit-communique Some of the key points IMHO from the newspaper article above. Saudi Arabia, India, South Africa, Thailand, Indonesia, Mexico and the United Arab Emirates, however, took part in the summit, but did not sign the final communique. Brazil attended with “observer status” and did not endorse the text. Ursula von der Leyen, said it would take time to achieve peace in Ukraine. “[The Swiss summit] was not a peace negotiation because Putin is not serious about ending the war China decided not to send an envoy to the summit, despite Ukraine’s invitation Signatories to the communique stated that threats or use of nuclear weapons was “inadmissible”, after repeated nuclear sabre-rattling by Putin, as well as attacks on the Zaporizhzhia nuclear energy plant, (that dastardly Putin trying to blow up a Nuclear power plant in his controlled territory as well as his own pipelines deranged ! ) In line with the summit’s modest aims, there was no discussion of what a postwar settlement would look like or Ukraine’s hopes of joining Nato So loads of talking about how bad Russia is and lots of agreeing that Russia is bad but not anything of any tangible progress towards "peace" 1 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 9 minutes ago, johng said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/16/key-global-powers-fail-to-sign-ukraines-peace-summit-communique Some of the key points IMHO from the newspaper article above. Saudi Arabia, India, South Africa, Thailand, Indonesia, Mexico and the United Arab Emirates, however, took part in the summit, but did not sign the final communique. Brazil attended with “observer status” and did not endorse the text. Ursula von der Leyen, said it would take time to achieve peace in Ukraine. “[The Swiss summit] was not a peace negotiation because Putin is not serious about ending the war China decided not to send an envoy to the summit, despite Ukraine’s invitation Signatories to the communique stated that threats or use of nuclear weapons was “inadmissible”, after repeated nuclear sabre-rattling by Putin, as well as attacks on the Zaporizhzhia nuclear energy plant, (that dastardly Putin trying to blow up a Nuclear power plant in his controlled territory as well as his own pipelines deranged ! ) In line with the summit’s modest aims, there was no discussion of what a postwar settlement would look like or Ukraine’s hopes of joining Nato So loads of talking about how bad Russia is and lots of agreeing that Russia is bad but not anything of any tangible progress towards "peace" 80 countries did sign though. "Eighty countries have united in a call for the "territorial integrity" of Ukraine to be the cornerstone of any peace agreement to end Russia's ongoing war. This declaration was issued at the conclusion of the Global Peace Summit held at a Swiss resort on June 16." So despite what you say the basis for any future peace deal will only be with Ukraine's "territorial integrity" in place. 2 1
Popular Post 0ffshore360 Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, transam said: Hello Offy, where have you been, gazing out too sea, dreaming of home......? 🤗 Sounds like we are of the same cloth, though mine was actually chain mail, armour....🤭 In days of old, when Knights were bold, you get my drift, paying taxes to the King, not me personally, of course.......😉 Nay Sirrah ! Floundering about in chainmail and armour is exactly Not the same cloth ! Little surprise you would so boldly declare tax avoidance . Then again as a product of the socialist benevolent pseudo government of a Nation of Collectives called The British Isles yet who has run off to Asia from where to label people who have opinions that differ to your own narrow mind offering snide personal attacks why should there be any surprise? You appear to be a mole. 3
transam Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 5 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said: Nay Sirrah ! Floundering about in chainmail and armour is exactly Not the same cloth ! Little surprise you would so boldly declare tax avoidance . Then again as a product of the socialist benevolent pseudo government of a Nation of Collectives called The British Isles yet who has run off to Asia from where to label people who have opinions that differ to your own narrow mind offering snide personal attacks why should there be any surprise? You appear to be a mole. Where have I mentioned tax avoidance, you're not that other bloke on here that tells porkies, are you..... Well it definitely sounds like your pi__ed off looking out a porthole somewhere........😥............Offy..
Popular Post johng Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: the basis for any future peace deal will only be with Ukraine's "territorial integrity" in place. So we are looking at best case scenario the East and West Germany situation all over again, with the real possibility of a hot war between NATO and Russia and possible escalation to full on WWIII if they keep prodding China... sounds great lovely and peaceful 😋 3
Bkk Brian Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, johng said: So we are looking at best case scenario the East and West Germany situation all over again, with the real possibility of a hot war between NATO and Russia and possible escalation to full on WWIII if they keep prodding China... sounds great lovely and peaceful 😋 We are looking at the progress made at the summit, the one where you tried to paint it as a waste of time 1
0ffshore360 Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Just now, transam said: Where have I mentioned tax avoidance, you're not that other bloke on here that tells porkies, are you..... Well it definitely sounds like your pi__ed off looking out a porthole somewhere........😥............Offy.. Well you did mention not paying taxes to the King. I am most certainly not pied off looking out a porthole. As part of your general ocd responses you have assumed that in my case I am at sea somewhere. Not so Sam. That implies that you habitually leap to wrongful conclusions ,pschyco armour creaking and clanking mayhap?
transam Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said: Well you did mention not paying taxes to the King. I am most certainly not pied off looking out a porthole. As part of your general ocd responses you have assumed that in my case I am at sea somewhere. Not so Sam. That implies that you habitually leap to wrongful conclusions ,pschyco armour creaking and clanking mayhap? I never mentioned not paying taxes, Offy..........
Popular Post 0ffshore360 Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: We are looking at the progress made at the summit, the one where you tried to paint it as a waste of time Is that progress a generic "declaration" of intent co signed by less than total attendees. Not so slowly diplomatic advisors are noting the "sanctions" trap that the US is arbitrarily imposing and inflicting with impact mostly if not only on any country other than the US. Kept well out of main stream news is that the "petro dollar " contract/agreement with Saudi has expired with no public news of any renewal. The US population. along with a large part of the"connected " world will be kept oblivious of the implications that can and most likely will arise. 1 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Just now, 0ffshore360 said: Is that progress a generic "declaration" of intent co signed by less than total attendees. Not so slowly diplomatic advisors are noting the "sanctions" trap that the US is arbitrarily imposing and inflicting with impact mostly if not only on any country other than the US. Kept well out of main stream news is that the "petro dollar " contract/agreement with Saudi has expired with no public news of any renewal. The US population. along with a large part of the"connected " world will be kept oblivious of the implications that can and most likely will arise. eh! No it was this: "Eighty countries have united in a call for the "territorial integrity" of Ukraine to be the cornerstone of any peace agreement to end Russia's ongoing war. This declaration was issued at the conclusion of the Global Peace Summit held at a Swiss resort on June 16." 1 1
0ffshore360 Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, transam said: I never mentioned not paying taxes, Offy.......... Oh go weep to your wet nurse Sam !
transam Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said: Is that progress a generic "declaration" of intent co signed by less than total attendees. Not so slowly diplomatic advisors are noting the "sanctions" trap that the US is arbitrarily imposing and inflicting with impact mostly if not only on any country other than the US. Kept well out of main stream news is that the "petro dollar " contract/agreement with Saudi has expired with no public news of any renewal. The US population. along with a large part of the"connected " world will be kept oblivious of the implications that can and most likely will arise. Eh......🤪..........Talk about 'word salad'............🤭 2
0ffshore360 Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: eh! No it was this: "Eighty countries have united in a call for the "territorial integrity" of Ukraine to be the cornerstone of any peace agreement to end Russia's ongoing war. This declaration was issued at the conclusion of the Global Peace Summit held at a Swiss resort on June 16." How many reps with signatory power attended? 1 1
transam Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, 0ffshore360 said: Oh go weep to your wet nurse Sam ! OK Offy, you were wrong.....Never mind........🤭 1
Bkk Brian Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Just now, 0ffshore360 said: How many reps with signatory power attended? How many had lunch after signing? 1
0ffshore360 Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, transam said: Eh......🤪..........Talk about 'word salad'............🤭 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: How many had lunch after signing? Probably the whole damn lot and Sam snuck in the back door. Irrelevant from moment one. 1
Bkk Brian Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said: Probably the whole damn lot and Sam snuck in the back door. Irrelevant from moment one. Yes exactly, how many countries signed? 12 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said: How many reps with signatory power attended? 1
stoner Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 so saudi didn't sign and are being considered as hosts for the next one. nice work the optics of that are amazing. and how is it that a country as disgusting as saudi seems to keep getting the OK from the west. shall some reminders of how disgusting they are be posted ? o wait......oil. it should be noted that canada made a 15bn dollar arms deal with saudi. which was done by the cons but further backed up by the libs. peace eh ? f off. 1
transam Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Yes exactly, how many countries signed? You're confusing the bloke now, he will have to use 2 hands and his feet...........🤔 1
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