Popular Post Social Media Posted June 20 Popular Post Share Posted June 20 In recent months, a widely accepted narrative has emerged claiming that Palestinians in Gaza are suffering from severe hunger. This narrative has been propagated by various entities, including the United Nations, the Biden administration, and major media outlets. In May, the head of the U.N. World Food Program declared a “full-blown famine” in northern Gaza, a claim echoed by reports in The New York Times and The Washington Post. These assertions have influenced significant actions, such as President Joe Biden's order for the U.S. Armed Forces to construct a floating pier to facilitate the flow of vital supplies to Gaza. Additionally, these allegations have led the International Criminal Court to request warrants for the arrest of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, accusing them of war crimes for allegedly starving Palestinians. However, evidence has emerged that casts serious doubt on the existence of a famine in Gaza. The U.N.’s own Famine Review Committee admitted in a report that the claims about insufficient food being sent to Gaza were unfounded. The narrative appears to be based on a misleading interpretation of data, specifically the undercounting of private-sector food trucks and other deliveries. It is crucial to note that prior to October 7, daily supplies of food, fuel, and other materials were regularly trucked into Gaza from Israel, debunking the widely circulated accusation that Israel blockaded the Strip. Meanwhile, Egypt has maintained a closure of its border with Gaza. Despite these revelations, the truth about the situation in Gaza has not been widely reported. Seth Mandel, writing in Commentary, highlighted the findings of the U.N. report and other analyses that debunk the famine claims. Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. These studies show that food is indeed flowing into Gaza. While there are undoubtedly food distribution problems in Gaza due to the ongoing military conflict initiated by Hamas on October 7, these issues are not caused by a shortage of food. The quantity of supplies being shipped into Gaza from Israel is sufficient to feed its population. Israel's efforts to maintain the flow of aid into Gaza are unprecedented in the history of armed conflict. Traditionally, warring powers are not responsible for feeding their enemies, particularly those living under hostile combatants, as is the case with Palestinians under Hamas control. The U.S. has acknowledged that much of the aid entering Gaza via the floating pier has not reached its intended recipients, with Hamas operatives hijacking the supplies. This diversion of aid, intended for civilians, underscores the primary obstacle to the smooth flow of humanitarian assistance: the actions of Hamas. Additionally, smuggling activities have exacerbated the situation. Gangs affiliated with various terrorist movements have impeded efforts to distribute aid, with reports indicating that cigarette smuggling is a significant factor contributing to shortages. Trucks meant for transporting food and fuel are being used to carry contraband tobacco, further complicating the delivery of essential supplies. Given these facts, why do media outlets, international organizations, and the Biden administration continue to discuss starvation and blame Israel for this largely fictional catastrophe? The answer lies in the broader context of the conflict. Many of these entities have accepted the narrative that Israel is a “settler/colonial” and “apartheid” state, justifying almost any tactic used by its enemies. The inflated claims of a Gaza famine are part of a long list of falsehoods aimed at vilifying Israel since October 7. This conflict has seen media outlets amplify Hamas propaganda, including falsehoods about specific attacks and exaggerated casualty figures. These same outlets have been quick to report every accusation against Israel while downplaying or ignoring evidence to the contrary. For instance, even The New York Times, which has contributed to the famine narrative, admitted in a buried report that there is no food shortage in northern Gaza. The portrayal of Israel as committing genocide against Palestinians is a gross misrepresentation. The reality is that Hamas terrorists are responsible for the suffering of their own people, as they prioritize their military objectives over the welfare of civilians. Every death and hardship faced by Palestinians since October 7 is a direct result of Hamas's actions, including their practice of using civilians as human shields and diverting humanitarian aid for their own use. The mythical Gaza famine is a clear example of how the Palestinians, supported by certain international actors, are manipulating the narrative to cast Israel in a negative light. This propaganda campaign relies on age-old antisemitic tropes, accusing Jews of conspiring to harm others. It is essential for discerning individuals to recognize this for what it is: a 21st-century blood libel. By stripping away the emotionalism and partisan bias that color so much of contemporary journalism, the claim that Israel is starving the Palestinians is exposed as a baseless accusation. The ongoing conflict, marked by Hamas's relentless aggression and Israel's defensive measures, must be understood in its true context, free from the distortions of propaganda. 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Neeranam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 6 hours ago, Social Media said: The portrayal of Israel as committing genocide against Palestinians is a gross misrepresentation. I, and many others, think it is not, maybe the Jewish News Syndicate have interests in Israel policy? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coolcarer Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 17 minutes ago, Neeranam said: I, and many others, think it is not, maybe the Jewish News Syndicate have interests in Israel policy? You are so predictable. Instead of acknowledging the UN report and all the ramifications of that. You go straight for an attack on the Jewish News. Sad. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post novacova Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 7 hours ago, Social Media said: Given these facts, why do media outlets, international organizations, and the Biden administration continue to discuss starvation and blame Israel for this largely fictional catastrophe? Because they know despite the blatant facts, the people that gobble up their propaganda are dumb enough to believe anything they tell them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 A couple of off topic troll posts removed. If you cant keep to the topic then dont expect your post to remain. No further warnings given. The Gaza Famine Has Been Cancelled Unmasking the Propaganda Against Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 32 minutes ago, novacova said: Because they know despite the blatant facts, the people that gobble up their propaganda are dumb enough to believe anything they tell them. Quote from the OP "Despite these revelations, the truth about the situation in Gaza has not been widely reported. Seth Mandel, writing in Commentary, highlighted the findings of the U.N. report and other analyses that debunk the famine claims. Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. And the news came from (what a surprise) the Jerusalem Post, where only one reporter cited the work of only two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. The Jerusalem Post is hardly an unbiased source of news about Gaza or the Palestinians, and I for one, don't believe it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pouatchee Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 geeezzzzz... we, the fortunate who are not threatened by war and famine, are constantly bombarded by reports that are either fake or true. all this in an attempt to sway us, the fortunate, one way or another. there is no way to believe anything anymore. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 11 minutes ago, billd766 said: Quote from the OP "Despite these revelations, the truth about the situation in Gaza has not been widely reported. Seth Mandel, writing in Commentary, highlighted the findings of the U.N. report and other analyses that debunk the famine claims. Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. And the news came from (what a surprise) the Jerusalem Post, where only one reporter cited the work of only two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. The Jerusalem Post is hardly an unbiased source of news about Gaza or the Palestinians, and I for one, don't believe it. So you are saying this is not true? Columbia University Professors Awi Federgruen and Ran Kivetz have analyzed available data and conducted research whose “findings demonstrate that sufficient amounts of food are being supplied into Gaza,” they noted in a summary of their findings presented to The Jerusalem Post. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-gaza-famine-that-wasnt/ Have you missed the UN report that confirms it? "The U.N.’s own Famine Review Committee admitted in a report that the claims about insufficient food being sent to Gaza were unfounded." Link in OP Edited June 21 by Bkk Brian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeBob Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 according to the pictures >>> doesn't look like famine AFAIK Israelis are not some blood thirsty monsters at all, while UN is very strange source of news (since Kofi) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 14 minutes ago, billd766 said: Quote from the OP "Despite these revelations, the truth about the situation in Gaza has not been widely reported. Seth Mandel, writing in Commentary, highlighted the findings of the U.N. report and other analyses that debunk the famine claims. Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. And the news came from (what a surprise) the Jerusalem Post, where only one reporter cited the work of only two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. The Jerusalem Post is hardly an unbiased source of news about Gaza or the Palestinians, and I for one, don't believe it. Indeed, is it wise to believe the Jerusalem Post or unbiased international humanitarian groups? Israel has been intentionally starving the residents of the Gaza Strip for the last five months, while continuing to punish civilians through its 16-year-long blockade. Starving the civilian population as a method of warfare is a violation of international law and is recognized as a war crime. https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-deliberately-starving-gaza-civilians-enhe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Indeed, is it wise to believe the Jerusalem Post or unbiased international humanitarian groups? Israel has been intentionally starving the residents of the Gaza Strip for the last five months, while continuing to punish civilians through its 16-year-long blockade. Starving the civilian population as a method of warfare is a violation of international law and is recognized as a war crime. https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-deliberately-starving-gaza-civilians-enhe Indeed, is it wise to believe the Jerusalem Post or unbiased international humanitarian groups? For you no, we know you don't believe anything from a Jewish source. So you deliberately ignored the links to the UN report that confirms it? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 16 minutes ago, NativeBob said: according to the pictures >>> doesn't look like famine AFAIK Israelis are not some blood thirsty monsters at all, while UN is very strange source of news (since Kofi) These are carefully chosen ones. In reality, last week - Hanan Al-Zaanin, an 8-year-old Palestinian girl, has died from severe malnutrition due to the dire humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where an Israeli blockade is preventing essential aid delivery. https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/12/starvation-kills-an-8-year-old-girl-in-gaza-as-israel-obstructs-aid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 minutes ago, Neeranam said: These are carefully chosen ones. In reality, last week - Hanan Al-Zaanin, an 8-year-old Palestinian girl, has died from severe malnutrition due to the dire humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where an Israeli blockade is preventing essential aid delivery. https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/12/starvation-kills-an-8-year-old-girl-in-gaza-as-israel-obstructs-aid You you claiming those photos are not real? How about this vid and many more like it? I get it though, Al Jazeera the Hamas supporting rag is your go to. https://x.com/cogatonline/status/1803723780780343784 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeBob Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 27 minutes ago, Neeranam said: These are carefully chosen ones. In reality, last week - I don't want to argue with you and your choice of sources. In this [obviously] freaky world we see/read some terrifying news. I prefer judge by my experience and acquaintances and recent historical events. As AlJazeera video shows is very sick child only. Again, I really don't want to argue about this, AlJazeera got kicked from Israel and all (!!!) their equipment was arrested. They have a bloody good reason to be angry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 minutes ago, NativeBob said: I don't want to argue with you and your choice of sources. In this [obviously] freaky world we see/read some terrifying news. I prefer judge by my experience and acquaintances and recent historical events. As AlJazeera video shows is very sick child only. Again, I really don't want to argue about this, AlJazeera got kicked from Israel and all (!!!) their equipment was arrested. They have a bloody good reason to be angry Agreed, there is no point in arguing, people have made up their minds on which sources to believe. I highly doubt AJ are making these stories up. Many human rights and press groups have criticized Israeli's ban of news sources. A 14-year-old Palestinian boy died from starvation in northern Gaza where over 200 children are at risk of death. https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/14/palestinian-teen-dies-from-starvation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Agreed, there is no point in arguing, people have made up their minds on which sources to believe. I highly doubt AJ are making these stories up. Many human rights and press groups have criticized Israeli's ban of news sources. A 14-year-old Palestinian boy died from starvation in northern Gaza where over 200 children are at risk of death. https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/14/palestinian-teen-dies-from-starvation Who is the source apart from Al Jazeera? It doesn't say? A video with no source talking to well fed looking Palestinians, were any of them Hamas? More unverified misinformation. Why do you believe it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeBob Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Many human rights and press groups have criticized Israeli's ban of news sources. Likely. These days news channels prefer to hire "freelancers" as they don't to pay social and other "fees" And those freelancers are desperate to sell their "content" so we witness very hot market demonizing and "dehumanizing" enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted Tuesday at 05:04 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:04 AM On 6/21/2024 at 8:35 AM, Social Media said: However, evidence has emerged that casts serious doubt on the existence of a famine in Gaza. The U.N.’s own Famine Review Committee admitted in a report that the claims about insufficient food being sent to Gaza were unfounded. The narrative appears to be based on a misleading interpretation of data, specifically the undercounting of private-sector food trucks and other deliveries. Apparently the UN is disputing it's own reports then. I know which version I believe and it's not the one in the OP. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/24/gaza-households-hunger-draft-un-report The latest “Special Snapshot” of Gaza from the UN’s hunger monitoring system, the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC), that will be published on Tuesday also says that one in five of the population – more than 495,000 people – are now “facing catastrophic levels of acute food insecurity” involving “an extreme lack of food, starvation, and exhaustion”. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted Tuesday at 05:13 AM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 05:13 AM On 6/21/2024 at 8:35 AM, Social Media said: Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. LOL. Two university professors must be more believable than the UN and many experts, NOT. Do we even know anything about those professors and their affiliations? Jerusalem Post- seriously? On 6/21/2024 at 8:35 AM, Social Media said: By stripping away the emotionalism and partisan bias that color so much of contemporary journalism, the claim that Israel is starving the Palestinians is exposed as a baseless accusation. Hardly! Nothing in the OP has convinced me that it's anything but cover for israeli atrocities in Gaza. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoExpat Posted Tuesday at 05:18 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:18 AM On 6/21/2024 at 11:57 AM, Neeranam said: These are carefully chosen ones. In reality, last week - Hanan Al-Zaanin, an 8-year-old Palestinian girl, has died from severe malnutrition due to the dire humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where an Israeli blockade is preventing essential aid delivery. https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/12/starvation-kills-an-8-year-old-girl-in-gaza-as-israel-obstructs-aid I love the claims that an Israeli news source isn't trustworthy, but Al-Jazeera is. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted Tuesday at 06:59 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:59 AM 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: Only because you are a Yank. Is the UN report linked to in the OP also bias? Are any Al Jazeera journo's holding any of the hostages still or how many terrorists are still working for them? Israeli Forces Rescue Hostages, Held By Al Jazeera & Palestine Chronicle Journalist Al Jazeera journalist reportedly moonlights as Hamas commander claims IDF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted Tuesday at 01:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:10 PM (edited) On 6/21/2024 at 11:33 AM, Bkk Brian said: So you are saying this is not true? Columbia University Professors Awi Federgruen and Ran Kivetz have analyzed available data and conducted research whose “findings demonstrate that sufficient amounts of food are being supplied into Gaza,” they noted in a summary of their findings presented to The Jerusalem Post. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-gaza-famine-that-wasnt/ Have you missed the UN report that confirms it? "The U.N.’s own Famine Review Committee admitted in a report that the claims about insufficient food being sent to Gaza were unfounded." Link in OP Had you bothered to read the report, or even skim it, you would know that it only referred to Northern Gaza where about 300,000 Gazans are located. 1.9 million are elsewhere. Edited Tuesday at 01:10 PM by placeholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted Tuesday at 01:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:30 PM (edited) 21 minutes ago, placeholder said: Had you bothered to read the report, or even skim it, you would know that it only referred to Northern Gaza where about 300,000 Gazans are located. 1.9 million are elsewhere. What are you talking about, there are two reports, from the OP. "Despite these revelations, the truth about the situation in Gaza has not been widely reported. Seth Mandel, writing in Commentary, highlighted the findings of the U.N. report and other analyses that debunk the famine claims. Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. These studies show that food is indeed flowing into Gaza. While there are undoubtedly food distribution problems in Gaza due to the ongoing military conflict initiated by Hamas on October 7, these issues are not caused by a shortage of food. The quantity of supplies being shipped into Gaza from Israel is sufficient to feed its population." UN report: In particular, the FRC highlights several issues contributing to a high level of uncertainty regarding food availability in the Governorates of Gaza and North Gaza in April 2024. FRC concerns over the availability and access analysis provided by FEWS NET include: The FEWS NET food availability analysis excludes the contribution of commercial and/or privately contracted deliveries, potentially between 1,820 with metric tons (MT) of food (low estimate) and 3,850 MT of food (high estimate) in the month of March and about 2,405 MT of food (low estimate) and 4,004 MT of food (high estimate) in the month of April 2024. While the intervals are extremely wide, indicative of a high level of uncertainty, this corresponds to the potential exclusion of about 25-76% coverage of >...........more follows in report Are you sure you read the report? Because its not just about Northern Gaza, only the famine section is. What part of my post do you not get? Edited Tuesday at 01:32 PM by Bkk Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted Tuesday at 01:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:35 PM 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: What are you talking about, there are two reports, from the OP. "Despite these revelations, the truth about the situation in Gaza has not been widely reported. Seth Mandel, writing in Commentary, highlighted the findings of the U.N. report and other analyses that debunk the famine claims. Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. These studies show that food is indeed flowing into Gaza. While there are undoubtedly food distribution problems in Gaza due to the ongoing military conflict initiated by Hamas on October 7, these issues are not caused by a shortage of food. The quantity of supplies being shipped into Gaza from Israel is sufficient to feed its population." UN report: In particular, the FRC highlights several issues contributing to a high level of uncertainty regarding food availability in the Governorates of Gaza and North Gaza in April 2024. FRC concerns over the availability and access analysis provided by FEWS NET include: The FEWS NET food availability analysis excludes the contribution of commercial and/or privately contracted deliveries, potentially between 1,820 with metric tons (MT) of food (low estimate) and 3,850 MT of food (high estimate) in the month of March and about 2,405 MT of food (low estimate) and 4,004 MT of food (high estimate) in the month of April 2024. While the intervals are extremely wide, indicative of a high level of uncertainty, this corresponds to the potential exclusion of about 25-76% coverage of Are you sure you read the report? Because its not just about Northern Gaza, only the famine section is. Experts on hunger say that almost half a million people in Gaza face starvation. In March, the I.P.C. predicted that famine would likely occur in northern Gaza by the end of May. But on Tuesday, it said that the amount of food and other nutrition delivered there had increased in March and April. Those increases “appear to have temporarily alleviated conditions” in the north, the report said, adding, “In this context, the available evidence does not indicate that famine is currently occurring.” https://archive.ph/6HoVC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted Tuesday at 01:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:36 PM Just now, placeholder said: Experts on hunger say that almost half a million people in Gaza face starvation. In March, the I.P.C. predicted that famine would likely occur in northern Gaza by the end of May. But on Tuesday, it said that the amount of food and other nutrition delivered there had increased in March and April. Those increases “appear to have temporarily alleviated conditions” in the north, the report said, adding, “In this context, the available evidence does not indicate that famine is currently occurring.” https://archive.ph/6HoVC You claimed the report referred only to Northern Gaza, you were wrong and now deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media Posted Wednesday at 03:43 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 03:43 AM Reported off topic response and reply removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted yesterday at 08:45 AM Share Posted yesterday at 08:45 AM On 6/21/2024 at 6:58 AM, Neeranam said: Agreed, there is no point in arguing, people have made up their minds on which sources to believe. I highly doubt AJ are making these stories up. Many human rights and press groups have criticized Israeli's ban of news sources. A 14-year-old Palestinian boy died from starvation in northern Gaza where over 200 children are at risk of death. https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/14/palestinian-teen-dies-from-starvation Why didn't they eat the food available in the market ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted yesterday at 09:02 AM Popular Post Share Posted yesterday at 09:02 AM On 6/21/2024 at 6:58 AM, Neeranam said: Agreed, there is no point in arguing, people have made up their minds on which sources to believe. I highly doubt AJ are making these stories up. Many human rights and press groups have criticized Israeli's ban of news sources. A 14-year-old Palestinian boy died from starvation in northern Gaza where over 200 children are at risk of death. https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/14/palestinian-teen-dies-from-starvation Even your report stated that he didn't die of starvation . The boy had a medical condition , a brain atrophy which can cause death . You are using this poor boys death as a weapon to attack Israel 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago On 6/25/2024 at 6:13 AM, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. Two university professors must be more believable than the UN and many experts, NOT. Do we even know anything about those professors and their affiliations? Jerusalem Post- seriously? But it is a U.N report "The U.N.’s own Famine Review Committee admitted in a report that the claims about insufficient food being sent to Gaza were unfounded." What are you saying ? That you believe U.N reports unless Jews also agree with those reports ? You disbelieve U.N reports because two Jewish professors agreed with those reports ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Pro Palestinians seem to be extremely disappointed that there hasn't been a famine , even using terminally sick children to try to prove that there was a famine . Pro Israelis are pleased it has been shown that there hasn't been a famine , (although they knew that all along) and Pro Palestinians seem to wish that there had been a famine . They should be celebrating that there hasn't been a famine . They really are a death cult 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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