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6 hours ago, Social Media said:

The portrayal of Israel as committing genocide against Palestinians is a gross misrepresentation.

I, and many others, think it is not, maybe the Jewish News Syndicate have interests in Israel policy?

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A couple of off topic troll posts removed. If you cant keep to the topic then dont expect your post to remain. No further warnings given.

 

The Gaza Famine Has Been Cancelled Unmasking the Propaganda Against Israel

 

 

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according to the pictures >>> doesn't look like famine 

AFAIK Israelis are not some blood thirsty monsters at all, while UN is very strange source of news (since Kofi)

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14 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Quote from the OP

 

"Despite these revelations, the truth about the situation in Gaza has not been widely reported. Seth Mandel, writing in Commentary, highlighted the findings of the U.N. report and other analyses that debunk the famine claims. Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. 

 

And the news came from (what a surprise) the Jerusalem Post, where only one reporter cited the work of only two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. 

 

The Jerusalem Post is hardly an unbiased source of news about Gaza or the Palestinians, and I for one, don't believe it.

Indeed, is it wise to believe the Jerusalem Post or unbiased international humanitarian groups?

 

Israel has been intentionally starving the residents of the Gaza Strip for the last five months, while continuing to punish civilians through its 16-year-long blockade. Starving the civilian population as a method of warfare is a violation of international law and is recognized as a war crime.

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-deliberately-starving-gaza-civilians-enhe

 

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16 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

according to the pictures >>> doesn't look like famine 

AFAIK Israelis are not some blood thirsty monsters at all, while UN is very strange source of news (since Kofi)

These are carefully chosen ones. 

 

In reality, last week - 

 

Hanan Al-Zaanin, an 8-year-old Palestinian girl, has died from severe malnutrition due to the dire humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where an Israeli blockade is preventing essential aid delivery. 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/12/starvation-kills-an-8-year-old-girl-in-gaza-as-israel-obstructs-aid

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3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

These are carefully chosen ones. 

 

In reality, last week - 

 

Hanan Al-Zaanin, an 8-year-old Palestinian girl, has died from severe malnutrition due to the dire humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where an Israeli blockade is preventing essential aid delivery. 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/12/starvation-kills-an-8-year-old-girl-in-gaza-as-israel-obstructs-aid

You you claiming those photos are not real?

 

How about this vid and many more like it? I get it though, Al Jazeera the Hamas supporting rag is your go to.

 

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https://x.com/cogatonline/status/1803723780780343784

 

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27 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

These are carefully chosen ones. 

In reality, last week - 

I don't want to argue with you and your choice of sources. 

In this [obviously] freaky world we see/read some terrifying news. I prefer judge by my experience and acquaintances and recent historical events. 

As AlJazeera video shows is very sick child only.

Again, I really don't want to argue about this, AlJazeera got kicked from Israel and all (!!!) their equipment was arrested. They have a bloody good reason to be angry 

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2 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

I don't want to argue with you and your choice of sources. 

In this [obviously] freaky world we see/read some terrifying news. I prefer judge by my experience and acquaintances and recent historical events. 

As AlJazeera video shows is very sick child only.

Again, I really don't want to argue about this, AlJazeera got kicked from Israel and all (!!!) their equipment was arrested. They have a bloody good reason to be angry 

Agreed, there is no point in arguing, people have made up their minds on which sources to believe. 

I highly doubt AJ are making these stories up. 

Many human rights and press groups have criticized Israeli's ban of news sources. 

 

A 14-year-old Palestinian boy died from starvation in northern Gaza where over 200 children are at risk of death.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/14/palestinian-teen-dies-from-starvation

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Agreed, there is no point in arguing, people have made up their minds on which sources to believe. 

I highly doubt AJ are making these stories up. 

Many human rights and press groups have criticized Israeli's ban of news sources. 

 

A 14-year-old Palestinian boy died from starvation in northern Gaza where over 200 children are at risk of death.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/14/palestinian-teen-dies-from-starvation

Who is the source apart from Al Jazeera? It doesn't say? A video with no source talking to well fed looking Palestinians, were any of them Hamas? More unverified misinformation. Why do you believe it?

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4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Many human rights and press groups have criticized Israeli's ban of news sources. 

Likely.

These days news channels prefer to hire "freelancers" as they don't to pay social and other "fees" 

And those freelancers are desperate to sell their "content" so we witness very hot market demonizing and "dehumanizing" enemies.

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On 6/21/2024 at 8:35 AM, Social Media said:

However, evidence has emerged that casts serious doubt on the existence of a famine in Gaza. The U.N.’s own Famine Review Committee admitted in a report that the claims about insufficient food being sent to Gaza were unfounded. The narrative appears to be based on a misleading interpretation of data, specifically the undercounting of private-sector food trucks and other deliveries.

Apparently the UN is disputing it's own reports then.

 

I know which version I believe and it's not the one in the OP.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/24/gaza-households-hunger-draft-un-report

The latest “Special Snapshot” of Gaza from the UN’s hunger monitoring system, the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC), that will be published on Tuesday also says that one in five of the population – more than 495,000 people – are now “facing catastrophic levels of acute food insecurity” involving “an extreme lack of food, starvation, and exhaustion”.

 

 

 

 

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On 6/21/2024 at 11:57 AM, Neeranam said:

These are carefully chosen ones. 

 

In reality, last week - 

 

Hanan Al-Zaanin, an 8-year-old Palestinian girl, has died from severe malnutrition due to the dire humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where an Israeli blockade is preventing essential aid delivery. 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/12/starvation-kills-an-8-year-old-girl-in-gaza-as-israel-obstructs-aid

I love the claims that an Israeli news source isn't trustworthy, but Al-Jazeera is.

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On 6/21/2024 at 11:33 AM, Bkk Brian said:

 

So you are saying this is not true?

Columbia University Professors Awi Federgruen and Ran Kivetz have analyzed available data and conducted research whose “findings demonstrate that sufficient amounts of food are being supplied into Gaza,” they noted in a summary of their findings presented to The Jerusalem Post.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-gaza-famine-that-wasnt/

 

Have you missed the UN report that confirms it?

 

"The U.N.’s own Famine Review Committee admitted in a report that the claims about insufficient food being sent to Gaza were unfounded."

 

Link in OP

Had you bothered to read the report, or even skim it, you would know that it only referred to Northern Gaza where about 300,000 Gazans are located. 1.9 million are elsewhere.

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21 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Had you bothered to read the report, or even skim it, you would know that it only referred to Northern Gaza where about 300,000 Gazans are located. 1.9 million are elsewhere.

What are you talking about, there are two reports, from the OP. 

 

"Despite these revelations, the truth about the situation in Gaza has not been widely reported. Seth Mandel, writing in Commentary, highlighted the findings of the U.N. report and other analyses that debunk the famine claims. Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. These studies show that food is indeed flowing into Gaza. While there are undoubtedly food distribution problems in Gaza due to the ongoing military conflict initiated by Hamas on October 7, these issues are not caused by a shortage of food. The quantity of supplies being shipped into Gaza from Israel is sufficient to feed its population."

 

 

UN report:

In particular, the FRC highlights several issues
contributing to a high level of uncertainty regarding
food availability in the Governorates of Gaza and North
Gaza
in April 2024. FRC concerns over the availability
and access analysis provided by FEWS NET include:

The FEWS NET food availability analysis excludes
the contribution of commercial and/or privately
contracted deliveries, potentially between 1,820 with
metric tons (MT) of food (low estimate) and 3,850 MT
of food (high estimate) in the month of March and
about 2,405 MT of food (low estimate) and 4,004 MT
of food (high estimate) in the month of April 2024.
While the intervals are extremely wide, indicative of
a high level of uncertainty, this corresponds to the
potential exclusion of about 25-76% coverage of >...........more follows in report

 

Are you sure you read the report? Because its not just about Northern Gaza, only the famine section is.

 

What part of my post do you not get?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

What are you talking about, there are two reports, from the OP. 

 

"Despite these revelations, the truth about the situation in Gaza has not been widely reported. Seth Mandel, writing in Commentary, highlighted the findings of the U.N. report and other analyses that debunk the famine claims. Similarly, Seth Frantzman in The Jerusalem Post cited the work of two Columbia University professors who analyzed the data and refuted the idea that Israel is starving Palestinians. These studies show that food is indeed flowing into Gaza. While there are undoubtedly food distribution problems in Gaza due to the ongoing military conflict initiated by Hamas on October 7, these issues are not caused by a shortage of food. The quantity of supplies being shipped into Gaza from Israel is sufficient to feed its population."

 

 

UN report:

In particular, the FRC highlights several issues
contributing to a high level of uncertainty regarding
food availability in the Governorates of Gaza and North
Gaza
in April 2024. FRC concerns over the availability
and access analysis provided by FEWS NET include:

The FEWS NET food availability analysis excludes
the contribution of commercial and/or privately
contracted deliveries, potentially between 1,820 with
metric tons (MT) of food (low estimate) and 3,850 MT
of food (high estimate) in the month of March and
about 2,405 MT of food (low estimate) and 4,004 MT
of food (high estimate) in the month of April 2024.
While the intervals are extremely wide, indicative of
a high level of uncertainty, this corresponds to the
potential exclusion of about 25-76% coverage of

 

Are you sure you read the report? Because its not just about Northern Gaza, only the famine section is.

Experts on hunger say that almost half a million people in Gaza face starvation.

In March, the I.P.C. predicted that famine would likely occur in northern Gaza by the end of May. But on Tuesday, it said that the amount of food and other nutrition delivered there had increased in March and April.

Those increases “appear to have temporarily alleviated conditions” in the north, the report said, adding, “In this context, the available evidence does not indicate that famine is currently occurring.”

https://archive.ph/6HoVC

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Just now, placeholder said:

Experts on hunger say that almost half a million people in Gaza face starvation.

In March, the I.P.C. predicted that famine would likely occur in northern Gaza by the end of May. But on Tuesday, it said that the amount of food and other nutrition delivered there had increased in March and April.

Those increases “appear to have temporarily alleviated conditions” in the north, the report said, adding, “In this context, the available evidence does not indicate that famine is currently occurring.”

https://archive.ph/6HoVC

You claimed the report referred only to Northern Gaza, you were wrong and now deflection.

Posted
On 6/21/2024 at 6:58 AM, Neeranam said:

Agreed, there is no point in arguing, people have made up their minds on which sources to believe. 

I highly doubt AJ are making these stories up. 

Many human rights and press groups have criticized Israeli's ban of news sources. 

 

A 14-year-old Palestinian boy died from starvation in northern Gaza where over 200 children are at risk of death.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/14/palestinian-teen-dies-from-starvation

 

 

 

  Why didn't they eat the food available in the market ?

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On 6/25/2024 at 6:13 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. Two university professors must be more believable than the UN and many experts, NOT. Do we even know anything about those professors and their affiliations?

Jerusalem Post- seriously?

 

   But it is  a U.N report 

 

 

"The U.N.’s own Famine Review Committee admitted in a report that the claims about insufficient food being sent to Gaza were unfounded."

 

   What are you saying ?

That you believe U.N reports unless Jews also agree with those reports ?

   You disbelieve U.N reports because two Jewish professors agreed with those reports ?

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Pro Palestinians seem to be extremely disappointed that there hasn't been a famine , even using terminally sick children to try to prove that there was a famine  .

   Pro Israelis are pleased it has been shown that there hasn't been a famine , (although they knew that all along) and Pro Palestinians  seem to wish that there had been a famine .

   They should be celebrating that there hasn't been a famine .

They really are a death cult

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