Who will replace Joe Biden as the Democratic Presidential candidate?

[theblether]

Okay I'm Scottish and I'm going to tell you Americans what's really happening here. 

 

1. Democrats know Biden is a basketcase but don't care, just as they didn't care in 2020. The first comment about Bidens mental state was by Obama around 2015. 

 

People read it as grief for his laddie. It was Obama pointing out - and Dems know this - that Biden wasn't fit for the Presidency. 

 

2. Hunter Biden's tax evasion trial starts September 5th. He is guilty. The prosecution has 30 witnesses lined up against him. 

 

3. MR BIG GUY, 10% FOR THE BIG GUY - etc are going to be beaten to death during the trial. 

 

4. The FBI has already stated the laptop is real. Unfortunately for the Biden family, the people who received the è-mails are cooperating with the prosecution

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5. The guilty verdict will be rendered around October 1. 

 

6. Many states have laws that nominees cannot be replaced on.the ballot after X date. 

 

7. So the answer was to chp Biden at the knees with an early debate. 

 

8. Trump should not have agreed. He may have won a Pyrrhic victory. Biden out, but a new and more brutal enemy emerges. 

 

9. But it's all about Hunters trial. 

 

Prove me wrong. 

 

[stoner]

well what do you know folks the stoner was on point again. let me reiterate for those still not getting it. unless she is in the race the dems are dead in the water. in fact the future of the democratic party will be in question. 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/07/03/michelle-obama-biden-alternative-beat-trump-us-election/

 

disclaimer. this public service announcement is brought to you by a NON trump fan. 

 

 

[Captain Flack]

8 hours ago, theblether said:

Okay I'm Scottish and I'm going to tell you Americans what's really happening here. 

 

1. Democrats know Biden is a basketcase but don't care, just as they didn't care in 2020. The first comment about Bidens mental state was by Obama around 2015. 

 

People read it as grief for his laddie. It was Obama pointing out - and Dems know this - that Biden wasn't fit for the Presidency. 

 

2. Hunter Biden's tax evasion trial starts September 5th. He is guilty. The prosecution has 30 witnesses lined up against him. 

 

3. MR BIG GUY, 10% FOR THE BIG GUY - etc are going to be beaten to death during the trial. 

 

4. The FBI has already stated the laptop is real. Unfortunately for the Biden family, the people who received the è-mails are cooperating with the prosecution

.

5. The guilty verdict will be rendered around October 1. 

 

6. Many states have laws that nominees cannot be replaced on.the ballot after X date. 

 

7. So the answer was to chp Biden at the knees with an early debate. 

 

8. Trump should not have agreed. He may have won a Pyrrhic victory. Biden out, but a new and more brutal enemy emerges. 

 

9. But it's all about Hunters trial. 

 

Prove me wrong. 

 

I have removed the personal attack flame part from the post this time.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, stoner said:

well what do you know folks the stoner was on point again. let me reiterate for those still not getting it. unless she is in the race the dems are dead in the water. in fact the future of the democratic party will be in question. 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/07/03/michelle-obama-biden-alternative-beat-trump-us-election/

 

disclaimer. this public service announcement is brought to you by a NON trump fan. 

 

 

If Trump / Project 25 / maga fascism wins future elections will be like Putin's Russia.

It's not about the democratic party.

It's about democracy itself.

[stoner]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

future elections will be like Putin's Russia.

 

ill take that fear mongering bet. 

[theblether]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If Trump / Project 25 / maga fascism wins future elections will be like Putin's Russia.

It's not about the democratic party.

It's about democracy itself.

 

Did you see the fascists parading through NYC today holding burning torches and chanting death to.the Jews? 

 

Wake up, JT. WAKE UP. 

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Did you see the fascists parading through NYC today holding burning torches and chanting death to.the Jews? 

 

Wake up, JT. WAKE UP. 

I have no idea what you're talking about dear heart 

Perhaps provide more clarification.

However if you're suggesting that Trump / Project 25 / maga is not a fascist movement you would be wrong.

 

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, stoner said:

 

ill take that fear mongering bet. 

Do you actually believe that dictator loving Trump who has still not conceded his loss in the last election will allow real elections in future if he gets to take advantage of the corrupt Supreme court''s gift of the presidency turned into having the power of a complete monarch?

Not fear mongering but keeping it real.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

It's especially crazy since they could achieve the same purpose by running his wife, without any of the pesky constitutional challenges.  And she's the only one on their bench that can defeat Trump...

 

This prompted Reuters/Ipsos to conduct a survey and see how potential replacements would fare against the presumptive Republican nominee, as well as where Biden stands now in the race.

 

According to the polling group, Obama would defeat Trump 50 to 39 percent, but the 45th president would best all other likely Biden replacements.

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/new-poll-shows-michelle-obama-potential-democratic-candidate/

 

Looks like poor Michelle may have to take one for the team.  To save democracy Democrats.

 

 

 

You foolishly overvalue polling especially at this point in the campaign.

Learn from history, dude.

[impulse]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You foolishly overvalue polling especially at this point in the campaign.

Learn from history, dude.

 

My main point was, why would Reuters/Ipsos poll her if she wasn't in contention?

 

[theblether]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I have no idea what you're talking about dear heart 

Perhaps provide more clarification.

However if you're suggesting that Trump / Project 25 / maga is not a fascist movement you would be wrong.

 

 

The tragedy is that you truly believe it's a fascist movement. 

 

The second tragedy is your news media isn't telling you about protests like this. 

 

Link takes you to twitter

 

https://x.com/theisraelfiles/status/1809049959804641341

Edited July 5 by theblether

[Jingthing]

17 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

The tragedy is that you truly believe it's a fascist movement. 

 

The second tragedy is your news media isn't telling you about protests like this. 

 

https://x.com/theisraelfiles/status/1809049959804641341

Your news item has nothing to do with the Trump movement being a fascist one or not.

 

It is.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-is-donald-trump-a-fascist-debate-has-been-ended-by-donald-trump/ar-AA1jVktW

 

 

 

As far as people hating Jews that comes from multiple directions. Christian based, white supremacist based, Islamist based, and leftist based.

 

Edited July 5 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

My main point was, why would Reuters/Ipsos poll her if she wasn't in contention?

 

Not related.

She's not in contention simply because she couldn't have been more clear that she has ZERO interest in seeking any political office, much less the presidency.

They run such polls because people are interested. Kind of like polling Oprah who also isn't running.

To add, IF Michelle actually entered the race (she would never) her polling would instantly drop like a rock, because the reality never matches the fantasy.

Edited July 5 by Jingthing

[Captain Flack]

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[Yellowtail]

20 hours ago, jas007 said:

I wonder if any bookies anywhere in the world are taking bets right now about a Biden replacement? 

 

2024 United States Presidential Election Odds (vegasinsider.com)

[mogandave]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Do you actually believe that dictator loving Trump who has still not conceded his loss in the last election will allow real elections in future if he gets to take advantage of the corrupt Supreme court''s gift of the presidency turned into having the power of a complete monarch?

Not fear mongering but keeping it real.

How is he going to eliminate elections an stay in office? 

 

If the Supreme Court is corrupt, why did they not give Trump complete immunity? 

 

Does it not bother you that Biden and the media are lying about the decision? Do you actually believe that nonsense?

[Jingthing]

19 minutes ago, mogandave said:

How is he going to eliminate elections an stay in office? 

 

If the Supreme Court is corrupt, why did they not give Trump complete immunity? 

 

Does it not bother you that Biden and the media are lying about the decision? Do you actually believe that nonsense?

Putin has elections.

 

If what the Supreme Court did was in effect under Nixon it would have been illegal to look at the tapes so that was the evidence and without evidence there would no case against him.

 

I don't rely on mainstream media. I listen to legal and constitutional experts.

 

 

[TedG]

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If Trump / Project 25 / maga fascism wins future elections will be like Putin's Russia.

It's not about the democratic party.

It's about democracy itself.

This is becoming another talking point from the left

 

What part of Project 2025 do you find objectionable? 

[mogandave]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Putin has elections.

 

If what the Supreme Court did was in effect under Nixon it would have been illegal to look at the tapes so that was the evidence and without evidence there would no case against him.

 

I don't rely on mainstream media. I listen to legal and constitutional experts.

 

 

So does it bother you that Biden lied about the decision in his speech or not? 

 

How is Trump going to stay in office? 

 

What legal an Constitutional experts do you listen to?

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

So does it bother you that Biden lied about the decision in his speech or not? 

 

How is Trump going to stay in office? 

 

What legal an Constitutional experts do you listen to?

I haven't followed the presidents comments on that either way.as like most democrats I'm focused on the question of him withdrawing from the nomination a here and now crisis.

 

Trump could stay in office the same way other dictators stay in office as scotus has made presidents above the law. 

 

This video details the issues with the outrageously bad scouts ruling.

 

 

[stoner]

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Do you actually believe that dictator loving Trump who has still not conceded his loss in the last election will allow real elections in future if he gets to take advantage of the corrupt Supreme court''s gift of the presidency turned into having the power of a complete monarch?

Not fear mongering but keeping it real.

 

Total fear mongering. And misinterpreting the law. 

 

You lose credibility when you keep running on the same talking points that are nothing but speculation. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

50 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

Total fear mongering. And misinterpreting the law. 

 

You lose credibility when you keep running on the same talking points that are nothing but speculation. 

 

 

Look at Trump's character.

It's horrible!

He couldn't get a job  at Target.

But no give him the one job in the country thats above the law. Completely insane.

[stoner]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Look at Trump's character.

It's horrible!

He couldn't get a job  at Target.

But no give him the one job in the country thats above the law. Completely insane.

 

its not above the law though. he doesn't need a job at target to beat biden. you have seen the latest polls come out yes ?  4 and 5 point lead now according to some sources.

 

goose cooked = biden 

 

there is only 1 way to stop trump. by 10 or 11 points i may add. i also mentioned that for a long time as well. 

[TedG]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I haven't followed the presidents comments on that either way.as like most democrats I'm focused on the question of him withdrawing from the nomination a here and now crisis.

 

Trump could stay in office the same way other dictators stay in office as scotus has made presidents above the law. 

 

This video details the issues with the outrageously bad scouts ruling.

 

 

Here is a counterpoint from Glenn Greenwald.   The left has a way of demagoguing everything. 

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, TedG said:

Here is a counterpoint from Glenn Greenwald.   The left has a way of demagoguing everything. 

 

 

 

Greenwald is part of the left.

Its very hard indeed to take "maverick" Greenwald seriously about anything.

 

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-long-history-of-glenn-greenwalds-kissing-up-to-the-kremlin

 

The Long History of Glenn Greenwald’s Kissing Up to the Kremlin

In his world, it seems America can do nothing right and Vladimir Putin can do nothing wrong.

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/03/why-glenn-greenwald-says-tucker-carlson-is-a-true-socialist.html

 

Glenn Greenwald’s long intellectual journey from center left to far left to, well, somewhere is a subject of fascination in elite circles. Greenwald comes out of a tradition of progressive journalism that focused primarily on attacking liberals and the Democratic Party from the left. Like many progressives, he latched on to Bernie Sanders’s two presidential campaigns as a righteous crusade to liberate the Democratic Party from the nefarious grip of its corporate, neoliberal masters.

After that, things got weird.

Edited July 5 by Jingthing

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 6/28/2024 at 7:12 PM, connda said:

  but it the DNC can put up a decent Gen-X or Millennial candidate 

Pray tell... name one gen-x or millennial even remotely qualified.

[TedG]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Greenwald is part of the left.

Its very hard indeed to take "maverick" Greenwald seriously about anything.

 

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-long-history-of-glenn-greenwalds-kissing-up-to-the-kremlin

 

The Long History of Glenn Greenwald’s Kissing Up to the Kremlin

In his world, it seems America can do nothing right and Vladimir Putin can do nothing wrong.

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/03/why-glenn-greenwald-says-tucker-carlson-is-a-true-socialist.html

 

Glenn Greenwald’s long intellectual journey from center left to far left to, well, somewhere is a subject of fascination in elite circles. Greenwald comes out of a tradition of progressive journalism that focused primarily on attacking liberals and the Democratic Party from the left. Like many progressives, he latched on to Bernie Sanders’s two presidential campaigns as a righteous crusade to liberate the Democratic Party from the nefarious grip of its corporate, neoliberal masters.

After that, things got weird.

You are attacking the messenger, not the content. 

[Jingthing]

20 minutes ago, TedG said:

You are attacking the messenger, not the content. 

I started to watch it and noticed he didn't mention that now intention could not be investigated and also evidence could not be gathered and determined he's talking garbage. Under the new ruling presidents can really do anything. Again Nixon would have been fully shielded.

 

[mogandave]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I haven't followed the presidents comments on that either way.as like most democrats I'm focused on the question of him withdrawing from the nomination a here and now crisis.

 

Trump could stay in office the same way other dictators stay in office as scotus has made presidents above the law. 

 

This video details the issues with the outrageously bad scouts ruling.

 

 

These are the legal and constitutional experts you put your faith in? That explains a lot.

[mogandave]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Look at Trump's character.

It's horrible!

He couldn't get a job  at Target.

But no give him the one job in the country thats above the law. Completely insane.

The only reason Trump. could not get a job at Target, is because they are run by leftists. 

 

Imagine Biden as a customer service representative at Target, how long do you think he would last?

 

Why do you not seem to care that he is supposed to be running the country? 

 

Why you you not seem to care that “your” media has been telling you for years that he’s fine, and that reports to the contrary are right-wing lies?