The Longest Con: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Frauds Hijacked American Conservatism.

[simple1]

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“Trump is the apotheosis of this moral degeneration of conservatism because he’s out there stealing with both hands and it’s right in your face.”

So said Joe Conason, veteran reporter and author of a lacerating new book, The Longest Con: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Frauds Hijacked American Conservatism.

 

‘Stealing with both hands’: veteran reporter Joe Conason details the right wing’s graft (msn.com)

 

PS: If you wish to respond and try to refute, note forum rules require a credible link to back up your claims.

[thaibeachlovers]

Could also say "The Longest Con: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Frauds Hijacked American Democrat Party".

 

If there is fault to be found, it's on both sides. To claim that the Democrats are on the side of angels and the GOP are devils is .

[simple1]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Could also say "The Longest Con: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Frauds Hijacked American Democrat Party".

 

If there is fault to be found, it's on both sides. To claim that the Democrats are on the side of angels and the GOP are devils is .

 

As I said provide credible links for any claim.

[pedro01]

<removed> - see link here 

 

[impulse]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

As I said provide credible links for any claim.

Right after you post a credible link, and not to a political hack job.

[jaywalker2]

Conservatives and Democrats have the same objective -- to create an elitist state -- they only differ in who they want to run it.

[Cryingdick]

36 minutes ago, impulse said:

Right after you post a credible link, and not to a political hack job.

 

The attempts to control the conversation and narrative was sort of cute on his part. Thats not how it works in the real world.  Trump is a terrible guy, the worst, a bad hombre and the next POTUS.

 

Link:

 

https://thekidsguide.com/trumpelectionbundle/?promotioncode=T44RB24J&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoo770rGWhwMV6RGtBh1lTAOEEAAYASAAEgJ9x_D_BwE

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

The attempts to control the conversation and narrative was sort of cute on his part. Thats not how it works in the real world.  Trump is a terrible guy, the worst, a bad hombre and the next POTUS.

 

Link:

 

https://thekidsguide.com/trumpelectionbundle/?promotioncode=T44RB24J&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoo770rGWhwMV6RGtBh1lTAOEEAAYASAAEgJ9x_D_BwE

 

If I started a similar thread about how the Dems have grifted, with a link to a book or article by Mark Levin, Victor Davis Hanson, Thomas Sowell, or (God forbid) Newt Gingrich or a hundred other conservative authors, I'd be dogpiled by the lefties and chances are the entire thread would last an hour until it was taken down.

 

[simple1]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

Right after you post a credible link, and not to a political hack job.

 

The author is credible with a distinguished career, including two best selling books. The member I responded too only posted an opinion with zero backup.

 

JOE CONASON is an American journalist and commentator. He is editor-in-chief of The National Memo, a daily political newsletter, and a senior fellow at Type Media Center. His articles have appeared in many publications around the world, including The New Republic, The Nation, The Guardian, Salon, and The American Prospect. He was executive editor of The New York Observer and a staff writer at The Village Voice. Two of his previous books, The Hunting of the President and Big Lies, were New York Times bestsellers.

[simple1]

50 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

If I started a similar thread about how the Dems have grifted, with a link to a book or article by Mark Levin, Victor Davis Hanson, Thomas Sowell, or (God forbid) Newt Gingrich or a hundred other conservative authors, I'd be dogpiled by the lefties and chances are the entire thread would last an hour until it was taken down.

 

 

Go ahead, though I am unaware of any proven corruption  / criminal acts against Joe Biden, as is the case with trump. Additionally, let's not forget trump has also settled Out Of Court on a number of occasions. Plus numerous trump associates being convicted of various offences, which to my mind questions trump's judgement of ethics and character. I suggest overall Republicans are more corrupt than the Democrats in today's political environment with the continuing BS regards 2020, gerrymandering etc, etc, etc

Edited July 8 by simple1

[jaywalker2]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

If I started a similar thread about how the Dems have grifted, with a link to a book or article by Mark Levin, Victor Davis Hanson, Thomas Sowell, or (God forbid) Newt Gingrich or a hundred other conservative authors, I'd be dogpiled by the lefties and chances are the entire thread would last an hour until it was taken down.

 

We all know about the grift of the Clintons and Obama now. There wouldn't be such a backlash against the Democrats among the members of its own party if they weren't aware of how corrupt the leadership is. The only problem is that the Republicans are even worse.  And Kennedy, as sincere sounding as he may be, is probably a nutcase.

[simple1]

12 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

We all know about the grift of the Clintons and Obama now. There wouldn't be such a backlash against the Democrats among the members of its own party if they weren't aware of how corrupt the leadership is. The only problem is that the Republicans are even worse.  And Kennedy, as sincere sounding as he may be, is probably a nutcase.

 

You're deflecting, the topic is Trump and the Republicans.

[susanlea]

19 hours ago, simple1 said:

: If you wish to respond and try to refute, note forum rules require a credible link to back up your claims.

No such forum rule. 

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

 

You're deflecting, the topic is Trump and the Republicans.

Trump is likely to win easily as the other party is terrible. No link needed.

[simple1]

4 minutes ago, susanlea said:

No such forum rule. 

 

Mods: Please remind member it is a forum requirement to provide credible linked sources for claims.

[susanlea]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

author is credible with a distinguished career,

 

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

, The Guardian

So he is a left wing person with left wing opinions. 

 

Next.

[susanlea]

Just now, simple1 said:

 

Mods: Please remind member it is a forum requirement to provide credible linked sources for claims.

Wrong. Read the rules. No links are required for OPINIONS as per 99% of posts.

 

 

[susanlea]

19 hours ago, simple1 said:

‘

“Trump is the apotheosis of this moral degeneration of conservatism because he’s out there stealing with both hands and it’s right in your face.”

So said Joe Conason, veteran reporter and author of a lacerating new book, The Longest Con: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Frauds Hijacked American Conservatism.

 

‘Stealing with both hands’: veteran reporter Joe Conason details the right wing’s graft (msn.com)

 

PS: If you wish to respond and try to refute, note forum rules require a credible link to back up your claims.

Your link is a book with opinions in it.

[impulse]

48 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

We all know about the grift of the Clintons and Obama now. There wouldn't be such a backlash against the Democrats among the members of its own party if they weren't aware of how corrupt the leadership is. The only problem is that the Republicans are even worse.  And Kennedy, as sincere sounding as he may be, is probably a nutcase.

 

I am neither a fan of the Demicans, nor the Republicrats.  I refer to them as the Uniparty, but that's too simplistic.    They're like sports teams that beat the crap out of each other on the field, but they really just want people to buy tickets to their game.   And they hang out and drink with each other, scheming how to get more fans and advertiser money.

 

In any case, claiming either side is more corrupt, using a single book (from the thousands that have been published) as an "approved source" (or any kind of definitive) is ludicrous.  It's a link to a political hit piece.  Nothing more.

 

 

Edited July 8 by impulse

[dhupverg]

Politicians around the world are in on the grift, it's not exclusive to the US.  Then you can throw in climate change grift, electric vehicle grift, war in Ukraine grift, covid grift and that would be the tip of the iceberg on the grifts going on all around us 24/7.

[impulse]

21 hours ago, simple1 said:

“Trump is the apotheosis of this moral degeneration of conservatism because he’s out there stealing with both hands and it’s right in your face.”

 

He must be the worst grifter EVER.  The only president in recent history that's worth less than he was going in.

 

https://blog.cheapism.com/what-presidents-are-worth/

 

Or it just may be possible he's doing it to Make America Great Again, in spite of the personal cost.

 

(Wonder how many scrunchy face emojis I'll win with that one?)

 

Edited July 8 by impulse

[susanlea]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I am neither a fan of the Demicans, nor the Republicrats.  I refer to them as the Uniparty, but that's too simplistic.    They're like sports teams that beat the crap out of each other on the field, but they really just want people to buy tickets to their game.   And they hang out and drink with each other, scheming how to get more fans and advertiser money.

 

In any case, claiming either side is more corrupt, using a single book (from the thousands that have been published) as an "approved source" (or any kind of definitive) is ludicrous.  It's a link to a political hit piece.  Nothing more.

 

 

Book not worth reading. The whole game is a scam. Vote for us we get rich you get 2 bucks extra.

[simple1]

24 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

He must be the worst grifter EVER.  The only president in recent history that's worth less than he was going in.

 

https://blog.cheapism.com/what-presidents-are-worth/

 

Or it just may be possible he's doing it to Make America Great Again, in spite of the personal cost.

 

(Wonder how many scrunchy face emojis I'll win with that one?)

 

 

I have a suspicion you didn't read the link as it clarifies he lost revenue due to his own actions. What you failed to mention the millions he has scammed from his base begging for money to cover his legal costs, even though he is a multi billionaire - remember he original claimed he would cover his own costs for presidency which, as usual,  was an outright lie, a lie covered in detail by the media.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I am neither a fan of the Demicans, nor the Republicrats.  I refer to them as the Uniparty, but that's too simplistic.    They're like sports teams that beat the crap out of each other on the field, but they really just want people to buy tickets to their game.   And they hang out and drink with each other, scheming how to get more fans and advertiser money.

 

In any case, claiming either side is more corrupt, using a single book (from the thousands that have been published) as an "approved source" (or any kind of definitive) is ludicrous.  It's a link to a political hit piece.  Nothing more.

 Not based upon the author, but proven over the course of time with his thousands of law suits, e.g. trump university etc etc etc I will not respond further to you and some others in this topic as you're obviously die hard MAGAs who only echo trump's lies and misinformation.

Edited July 8 by simple1

[simple1]

2 hours ago, susanlea said:

 

So he is a left wing person with left wing opinions. 

 

Next.

 

Guardian has a leaning to left wing politics with opinions in the context of the UK, but news reporting is factual, for which the Guardian has won a number of awards. Note the Guardian is not funded by some billionaire with an agenda e.g. Fox.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/gnm-press-office/awards

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

 

Guardian has a leaning to left wing politics with opinions in the context of the UK, but news reporting is factual, for which the Guardian has won a number of awards. Note the Guardian is not funded by some billionaire with an agenda e.g. Fox.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/gnm-press-office/awards

News reporting is factual? Since when?

[susanlea]

The Guardian scored an average Factual Grade of 64.4%, placing it in the 57th percentile of our dataset.

 

https://www.thefactual.com/blog/is-the-guardian-reliable/

[susanlea]

7 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Note the Guardian is not funded by some billionaire with an agenda e.g. Fox.

A very successful man. Unlike the losers who write for The Guardian.

[simple1]

13 hours ago, susanlea said:

A very successful man. Unlike the losers who write for The Guardian.

 

All your posts fit perfectly to the MAGA drum beat. Hopefully one day you and others will transition from Darkness to Light. Until then no point to respond to you further.

[EVENKEEL]

16 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Mods: Please remind member it is a forum requirement to provide credible linked sources for claims.

I'd bet you got picked on alot as a kid.