Israel Hamas War the Widening Middle East Conflict

[bannork]

1 hour ago, coolcarer said:

According to Hamas who do not distinguish between civilians and their own terrorists in body count. The article also needs updating. Hamas refused the deal

Please update. I don't think women and children are generally terrorists. Hamas is hard line Islamic, women are subjugated to household roles from what I've read.

[coolcarer]

20 minutes ago, bannork said:

Please update. I don't think women and children are generally terrorists. Hamas is hard line Islamic, women are subjugated to household roles from what I've read.

Sure. According to Hamas. The same ones who inbed themselves among women and children. Would you like some further updates?

[bannork]

6 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Sure. According to Hamas. The same ones who inbed themselves among women and children. Would you like some further updates?

Please post some links showing women and children are acting as terrorists in Gaza

[coolcarer]

1 minute ago, bannork said:

Please post some links showing women and children are acting as terrorists in Gaza

Only if you first provide a link to where I claimed that women and children are acting as terrorists. Aside of course for some late teen children who are terrorists. 

[bannork]

7 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Only if you first provide a link to where I claimed that women and children are acting as terrorists. Aside of course for some late teen children who are terrorists. 

You said Hamas doesn't distinguish between civilians and their own terrorists in body counts. Yet the article states the attack on the southern city of Khan Younis, resulted in at least 16 deaths, most of them women and children.

So are you saying these women and children were terrorists? 

[coolcarer]

7 minutes ago, bannork said:

You said Hamas doesn't distinguish between civilians and their own terrorists in body counts. Yet the article states the attack on the southern city of Khan Younis, resulted in at least 16 deaths, most of them women and children.

So are you saying these women and children were terrorists? 

Yes the article states that with the source being Hamas. Which you obviously believe and I don’t. I don’t believe the terrorists.  The fact is also that Hamas does not seperate women and children deaths from their own terrorist deaths The numbers they give includes both civilians and terrorists. Did you not know that basic fact?

 

where am I saying women and children are terrorists?

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Can I suggest you read the full article, as I did, it has far more to say than the 3 paragraphs that I could post to comply with Forum rules.

 

The article is not the letter.  The letter  is a relatively mild statement of position and reflects sentiments shared by many Israelis.

 

[Jeff the Chef]

Hamas formally rejects Israeli ceasefire offer | BBC News

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Hamas formally rejects Israeli ceasefire offer | BBC News

 

 

 

This Has been discussed already when it was first announced. The many responses remain the same.

 

 

[bannork]

The Israeli military continued to conduct dozens of airstrikes in the Gaza Strip over the Jewish weekend from Friday evening to Saturday evening. The air force carried out around 150 attacks on "terrorists and terror infrastructure" over the period, the military said on Saturday.

Over the past seven days, 300 targets have been attacked in the fight against the Palestinian Islamist Hamas movement, and since the resumption of hostilities on March 18, more than 1,400 targets have been hit from the air, the military said further. The Israeli military typically does not provide information on the number of civilian casualties resulting from its operations.

Israel intensifies operations in Gaza Strip with dozens of airstrikes

[Jeff the Chef]

Netanyahu 'insists' on not ending Israel-Hamas war until Gaza threat is gone

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Netanyahu 'insists' on not ending Israel-Hamas war until Gaza threat is gone

 

 

 

Rather than take the advice of experts that said he could fool Hamas with fake promises, the PM said it as it should be.

 

'PM insists fighting won’t end until terror group destroyed, derides ‘experts’ who say he could fool Hamas with fake promise to end war, get captives back, and then resume fighting

 

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed on Saturday night that he would not end the war with Hamas in Gaza until the terror group is removed from power, calling its current demands for a hostage release deal “capitulation conditions.”

 

Speaking in a prerecorded video address that his office described the day before as a “special statement on a diplomatic matter,” Netanyahu argued that Hamas would rehabilitate its military capabilities if the conflict were ended.'

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-impossible-to-resume-gaza-war-if-deal-reached-to-free-all-hostages/

[coolcarer]

Hamas never fail to demonstrate just how depraved they are. Then bring it to new lows

 

 

[coolcarer]

"As Passover ends, we send our warmest wishes to all celebrating this sacred holiday of freedom. While families gather, innocent men, women, and children remain held hostage by Hamas. WE WILL NOT STOP FIGHTING TO BRING THEM HOME."

 

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1913756185892659516

 

[Bkk Brian]

The BBC acting as the mouth piece for Hamas who are offering a peace deal worked out by Qatar and Egypt that is effectively a complete surrender by Israel in return for the hostages

 

New Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan proposed, Hamas source tells BBC

A senior Palestinian official familiar with Israel-Hamas ceasefire negotiations has told the BBC that Qatari and Egyptian mediators have proposed a new formula to end the war in Gaza.

According to the official, it envisages a truce lasting between five and seven years, the release of all Israeli hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails, a formal end to the war, and a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

A senior Hamas delegation was due to arrive in Cairo for consultations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62xnqlj11lo

 

They wouldn't of course report on what a senior Qatar official deleted from his twitter account.

 

Qatari defense minister in past tweets: ‘We are all Hamas’

https://www.jns.org/qatari-defense-minister-in-past-tweets-we-are-all-hamas/

[bannork]

Egypt and Qatar, acting as mediators in the negotiations between Israel and Hamas regarding a ceasefire and a deal on hostages, have made a new proposal to the parties. This proposal includes, among other things, a long-term ceasefire, according to the BBC.

Representatives from Cairo and Doha proposed to Israel and Hamas a ceasefire agreement lasting 5 to 7 years, with the official end of the war, complete withdrawal of Israeli forces (IDF) from the Gaza Strip, and the release of "all Israeli hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails."

This proposal was shared with a British publication by a senior Palestinian official familiar with the negotiations.

Ceasefire for 5-7 years - Egypt and Qatar offered Israel and Hamas new agreement

[coolcarer]

Meanwhile goodbye to another Hamas rocket man who took part in the Oct 7th Massacres

 

"The terrorist Ahmad Mansour - a member of Islamic Jihad’s rocket unit who invaded Israel and took part in the October 7th massacre - eliminated.

Bye bye terrorist"

 

[bannork]

France, Germany, and the U.K. on Wednesday denounced Israel’s continued blockade of humanitarian aid to Gaza, urging the immediate restoration of unhindered aid access and a renewed push for a cease-fire.

"Israel has now fully blocked the entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza for over fifty days," the foreign ministers said in a statement, warning of dire consequences for the Palestinian population.

"Essential supplies are either no longer available or quickly running out. Palestinian civilians - including one million children - face an acute risk of starvation, epidemic disease and death. This must end."

'Intolerable': European trio slams Israel's 50-day block on Gaza aid | Daily Sabah