Labour Councillor Ricky Jones Arrested on Suspicion of "encouraging murder" at Protest

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A Labour councillor, Ricky Jones, has been arrested after allegedly making incendiary remarks at a protest, calling for the throats of far-right protesters to be "cut." The Metropolitan Police took the 50-year-old councillor into custody on suspicion of "encouraging murder" and an offence under the Public Order Act. The arrest occurred at an address in south-east London, and Jones is currently being held at a police station in the area.

 

The arrest followed the circulation of a video on social media, which was also reposted by the Metropolitan Police. In the video, a man, believed to be Ricky Jones, is seen addressing a crowd at a protest. He is heard saying, "They are disgusting Nazi fascists, and we need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all." The protesters behind him, standing closely together along the pavement, held placards with the message: "Smash fascism and racism by any means necessary."

 

These comments have been interpreted as a response to recent violent events and riots in towns across the country. These incidents have involved far-right groups, resulting in the damage of a mosque in Southport and the storming of hotels housing asylum seekers. The tensions have escalated, leading to protests and counter-protests in various locations, including Walthamstow in east London.

 

The Labour Party moved quickly in response to the video, suspending Ricky Jones from the party. This suspension means that Jones will no longer be able to sit as a Labour councillor and will instead serve as an independent, as the Labour whip has been removed. A spokesperson for the Labour Party condemned the behaviour, stating, "This behaviour is completely unacceptable, and it will not be tolerated. The councillor has been suspended from the party."

 

The anti-racism demonstration in Walthamstow, where the alleged comments were made, was part of a broader effort to counteract the rising tide of far-right activity in the UK. The National Police Chiefs' Council reported that over 480 arrests have been made in connection with the recent violent disorder. Despite the heightened tensions, the Metropolitan Police chief, Sir Mark Rowley, noted that the demonstration in Walthamstow "went off very peacefully last night," although there were minor incidents of antisocial behaviour by local criminals, which led to a few arrests.

 

The arrest of Ricky Jones has added a new layer of complexity to the ongoing debate about the appropriate response to far-right extremism and the boundaries of free speech. The incident has sparked discussions about the limits of political rhetoric, especially when it comes to inciting violence, and the responsibilities of public officials to maintain a standard of conduct that upholds democratic values.

 

As the situation unfolds, it remains to be seen how this will impact Jones' political career and the broader Labour Party, particularly in the context of its stance on far-right extremism and the measures it takes to combat it. The case also raises questions about how political figures should engage with the public on sensitive issues, especially in a climate of increasing polarization and violence. The Labour Party's swift action to suspend Jones underscores its commitment to distancing itself from rhetoric that could be interpreted as encouraging violence, but it also highlights the challenges faced by political parties in managing the conduct of their members in an age of social media and instant communication.

 

The arrest is likely to lead to further legal proceedings, which will determine whether Jones' comments constituted a criminal offence under the laws governing hate speech and incitement to violence in the UK. In the meantime, the incident serves as a reminder of the importance of responsible political discourse, especially in times of social and political unrest.

 

Credit: Sky News  2024-08-10

 

 

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[CanadaSam]

With societies around the world descending into the depths of not much more than brainless morons blindly following whichever idiot happens to be in a position of power, I grudingly agree that there needs to be limits to freedom of speech, when it can, and often does, lead to death and injuries.

[Chomper Higgot]

Excellent.

 

Though not good news for those promoting the ‘two tier justice lie’.

 

 

[nobodysfriend]

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

"They are disgusting Nazi fascists, and we need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all."

 

That clearly is " hate speech " and , as such , should not be permitted , especially for a counselor .

Today's world is extremely polarized , it is only left or right , the middle way has gone missing ...

 

[proton]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Excellent.

 

Though not good news for those promoting the ‘two tier justice lie’.

 

 

 

He has been charged with a lesser offence than inciting murder, so thats 2 tier to start off with. When convicted if it's less than prison time that will be 2 tier also. People have been sent to prison for shouting at the police, this guy should get 2 years for inciting murder. 

Why is he not described as a far left fascist thug, 2 tier reporting?

Edited August 10 by proton

[GanDoonToonPet]

He's been charged with 'encouraging violent disorder'...quite a step down from 'encouraging murder' 🤔

 

 

Sky News UK

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

He has been charged with a lesser offence than inciting murder, so thats 2 tier to start off with. When convicted if it's less than prison time that will be 2 tier also. People have been sent to prison for shouting at the police, this guy should get 2 years for inciting murder. 

Nah, it’s your inability to understand which laws he broke.

 

Nobody has ‘been sent to prison for shouting at police’. Feel free to post the actual convictions handed down by the courts if you believe otherwise.

[proton]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nah, it’s your inability to understand which laws he broke.

 

Nobody has ‘been sent to prison for shouting at police’. Feel free to post the actual convictions handed down by the courts if you believe otherwise.

 

John O'Malley, 43

2 years 8 months for shouting and gesturing, others have been jailed for spitting at Police or just being at the front of a demonstration. Meanwhile, we are still waiting for the Muslim airport thugs who attacked the police to even be charged.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, proton said:

 

John O'Malley, 43

2 years 8 months for shouting and gesturing, others have been jailed for spitting at Police or just being at the front of a demonstration. Meanwhile, we are still waiting for the Muslim airport thugs who attacked the police to even be charged.

While I go find the court ruling, do want to add a link to were you got that from?

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, proton said:

 

John O'Malley, 43

2 years 8 months for shouting and gesturing, others have been jailed for spitting at Police or just being at the front of a demonstration. Meanwhile, we are still waiting for the Muslim airport thugs who attacked the police to even be charged.

Let’s despatch that misrepresentation of the facts with the actual court ruling:

O’Malley was convicted of ‘Violent Disorder’.

 

 

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/John-OMalley-and-William-Nelson-Morgan-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

[stoner]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

19 minutes ago, proton said:

 

John O'Malley, 43

2 years 8 months for shouting and gesturing, others have been jailed for spitting at Police or just being at the front of a demonstration. Meanwhile, we are still waiting for the Muslim airport thugs who attacked the police to even be charged.

Expand  

Let’s despatch that misrepresentation of the facts with the actual court ruling:

O’Malley was convicted of ‘Violent Disorder’.

 

 

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/John-OMalley-and-William-Nelson-Morgan-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

 

Turning to the sentencing guidelines I am satisfied that your offending falls into culpability category B because you participated willingly in an incident involving widespread and large scale acts of violence on both people and property

[stoner]

ricky jones is a total loser. you're a councillor and you say that kind of stuff. although the nazi fascist comparison is thrown about so often....without the throat cutting part. 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, stoner said:

ricky jones is a total loser. you're a councillor and you say that kind of stuff. although the nazi fascist comparison is thrown about so often....without the throat cutting part. 

An accusation reasonably made in the basis of behavior, and a bit of ‘skin art’.

 

https://www.thejc.com/news/jewish-groups-voice-disgust-as-far-right-rioters-do-nazi-salutes-and-target-muslims-y6u9w4za

[stoner]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

An accusation reasonably made in the basis of behavior, and a bit of ‘skin art’.

 

https://www.thejc.com/news/jewish-groups-voice-disgust-as-far-right-rioters-do-nazi-salutes-and-target-muslims-y6u9w4za

 

you are so predictable. you can show a video with someone with a nazi tattoo. big whoopie. that thinking can be applied to both sides of the political spectrum. you want to sit here and tell me there are not examples of people on the left like that. 

 

so all the far right have nazi tattoos ? all the protestors have nazi tattoos ? the accusation also came with a death threat and a call to violence. something you have been very vocal when it came to other situations.

 

give it up. you know very well he wasn't just talking about people with tattoos. clearly the law didn't either. 

 

he is scum just like those true nazis. 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

you are so predictable. you can show a video with someone with a nazi tattoo. big whoopie. that thinking can be applied to both sides of the political spectrum. you want to sit here and tell me there are not examples of people on the left like that. 

 

so all the far right have nazi tattoos ? all the protestors have nazi tattoos ? the accusation also came with a death threat and a call to violence. something you have been very vocal when it came to other situations.

 

give it up. you know very well he wasn't just talking about people with tattoos. clearly the law didn't either. 

 

he is scum just like those true nazis. 

I absolutely support the suspension and prosecution of the councilor.

 

But don’t deny the presence of neo-Nazis within the far rightwing rioters.

 

I didn’t show a video, I posted a link to a credible source that reports in detail the presence and behaviour of Nazi sympathizers.

 

If me calling out your denial of facts is predictable then I’m happy with that.

 

Edited August 10 by Chomper Higgot

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I absolutely support the suspension and prosecution of the councilor.

 

But don’t deny the presence of neo-Nazis within the far rightwing rioters.

 

I didn’t show a video, I posted a link to a credible source that reports in detail the presence and behaviour of Nazi sympathizers.

 

If me calling out your denial of facts is predictable then I’m happy with that.

 

 

what denial ? now you are making crap up. 

14 minutes ago, stoner said:

he is scum just like those true nazis.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

what denial ? now you are making crap up. 

 

Do you agree the accusation neo-Nazi actively taking part I the riots is correct?

[James105]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I absolutely support the suspension and prosecution of the councilor.

 

But don’t deny the presence of neo-Nazis within the far rightwing rioters.

 

I didn’t show a video, I posted a link to a credible source that reports in detail the presence and behaviour of Nazi sympathizers.

 

If me calling out your denial of facts is predictable then I’m happy with that.

 

 

Thats the same photo of the same man doing the rounds over and over again to justify not talking about the underlying causes of the discontentment.  One man.  Which you are then using to tar everyone with the same brush.  

 

I presume you would have different standards for those that would show photos of grooming gang members to denigrate the entire muslim community so maybe try holding yourself up to those same standards.  

[crazykopite]

will the two-tier system allow him bail or like the others will he be remanded in prison I hope its the latter

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Thats the same photo of the same man doing the rounds over and over again to justify not talking about the underlying causes of the discontentment.  One man.  Which you are then using to tar everyone with the same brush.  

 

I presume you would have different standards for those that would show photos of grooming gang members to denigrate the entire muslim community so maybe try holding yourself up to those same standards.  

It’s not a single photo, it’s a linked article.

 

But do continue with your attempts to obfuscate on behalf of Nazi sympathizers.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, crazykopite said:

will the two-tier system allow him bail or like the others will he be remanded in prison I hope its the latter

The ‘two tier system’ that doesn’t exist.

[novacova]

The UK is a shadow of its former self. RIP UK.

[James105]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a single photo, it’s a linked article.

 

But do continue with your attempts to obfuscate on behalf of Nazi sympathizers.

 

"Nazi sympathisers".  If you read the linked article you would see that the only "evidence" that backs this up is "In footage shared to Twitter/ X, one man at a protest in Sunderland on Friday could be heard being complimented on his “awesome” and “pure British” tattoos, one of which was a swastika."

 

Again.  One man.   Is this the standard now for demonising entire communities of people?  Should people be applying this same standard to the muslim community or do you think that would be problematic?  

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

"Nazi sympathisers".  If you read the linked article you would see that the only "evidence" that backs this up is "In footage shared to Twitter/ X, one man at a protest in Sunderland on Friday could be heard being complimented on his “awesome” and “pure British” tattoos, one of which was a swastika."

 

Again.  One man.   Is this the standard now for demonising entire communities of people?  Should people be applying this same standard to the muslim community or do you think that would be problematic?  

And the Nazi saluting?

 

Don’t forget that in your attempts to run cover for these scum.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, novacova said:

The UK is a shadow of its former self. RIP UK.

Quite the contrary.

 

People from across all communities coming together to peacefully oppose extreme right wingers attacking a completely innocent community is a reminder of what’s best about Britain.

[James105]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And the Nazi saluting?

 

Don’t forget that in your attempts to run cover for these scum.

 

 

Yes, terrible.  I can see two of them doing that in the linked article, and I would say this is without question as bad as those chanting "from the river to the sea" in the anti-jew hate marches in London every Saturday.   Whatever punishment you deem is appropriate for these 2 nazi saluting individuals I would agree is equally appropriate for the thousands making those genocidal chants on the hate marches every week.   What punishment should they face do you think?  

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Yes, terrible.  I can see two of them doing that in the linked article, and I would say this is without question as bad as those chanting "from the river to the sea" in the anti-jew hate marches in London every Saturday.   Whatever punishment you deem is appropriate for these 2 nazi saluting individuals I would agree is equally appropriate for the thousands making those genocidal chants on the hate marches every week.   What punishment should they face do you think?  

Whataboutary isn’t helping you.

 

You did take note of the source of the article I linked?

[James105]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Whataboutary isn’t helping you.

 

You did take note of the source of the article I linked?

 

If I may remind you of the original topic which is "Labour Councillor Ricky Jones Arrested on Suspicion of "encouraging murder" at Protest which has nothing whatsover to do with nazi salutes.  I was responding to your whataboutary so it is a bit rich to then claim mine is whataboutary isn't it?  

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

If I may remind you of the original topic which is "Labour Councillor Ricky Jones Arrested on Suspicion of "encouraging murder" at Protest which has nothing whatsover to do with nazi salutes.  I was responding to your whataboutary so it is a bit rich to then claim mine is whataboutary isn't it?  

A fair point, but I suggest you take it up with Stoner and his grievance over Nazis being called Nazis’.

 

 

[brianthainess]

2 hours ago, proton said:

 

John O'Malley, 43

2 years 8 months for shouting and gesturing, others have been jailed for spitting at Police or just being at the front of a demonstration. Meanwhile, we are still waiting for the Muslim airport thugs who attacked the police to even be charged.

It was the Police that were the Thugs if you hear their side of the story, not anti Muslim rhetoric, like you are spouting.