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12 hours ago, Rob Browder said:

The irony, here, is this critique is right-wing propaganda - what the R-Party always supported - low-tariffs for outsourcing, and a flood of foreign labor - so they could avoid paying Americans a decent wage.  The Democrats opposed this until Bill Clinton flipped the script, and sold out working Americans. 

Not to worry, though - Trump won't do anything he is promising if he wins, just like the last time.  Whatever the MIC, Black-Rock, Big-Pharma, etc wants, they will get from either of these clowns. 

 

The only wild-card is RFK-Jr - but as long as the MSM keep him off "cable news," the boomer voters will never know about that option. 

I think your way off and now have proof as JFKjr wants in on Harris Team! Wake up

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Posted
3 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Clinton won by 2 perent popular 

A Democratic must be ahead 4% + in order to win (electoral college)

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3 minutes ago, morrobay said:

A Democratic must be ahead 4% + in order to win (electoral college)

     Not always.  Gore almost won in 2000 with 48.4% of the vote vs. Bush's 47.9%.   Had he carried Florida, with some of the after-election analyses of the Florida vote tally showing that he actually did, he would have won the EC and the election.

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1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Polls that fit a person's cognitive bias are always the most accurate........

Wasn't it bignok, or somebody else daft that posted the same site yesterday, which brought out a big red flag for me.....😝

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15 minutes ago, newnative said:
22 minutes ago, morrobay said:

A Democratic must be ahead 4% + in order to win (electoral college)

     Not always.  Gore almost won in 2000 with 48.4% of the vote vs. Bush's 47.9%.

 

Almost won, as in, he lost?

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Real Clear Politics has Harris up by 1% in the national average. Trump winning 5 of the 7 swing states, and up by 0.6% overall in them.   Crucially, the vast majority of voters think the country is on the wrong track, 65-25%.

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1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Real Clear Politics has Harris up by 1% in the national average. Trump winning 5 of the 7 swing states, and up by 0.6% overall in them.   Crucially, the vast majority of voters think the country is on the wrong track, 65-25%.

 

 

As of mid-August 2024......

 

 

1. Arizona: Harris is leading. The state remains highly competitive, with both candidates polling around 47-48%.

2. Georgia: The race is nearly tied, with both Harris and Trump polling around 48%, making Georgia one of the most closely watched states.

3. Michigan: Harris has the advantage, leading by 2-3 percentage points. This state is critical for both campaigns, given its history of flipping in recent elections.

4. Pennsylvania: Harris is ahead, with a lead of about 2 percentage points. Pennsylvania is another key battleground that could determine the election outcome.

5. Wisconsin: The race is very close, with Harris leading by a narrow margin. Wisconsin is a pivotal state that has seen swings in recent elections.

6. Nevada: Trump has a slight edge in this state, leading by 1-2 percentage points. Nevada remains competitive and could go either way depending on voter turnout.

 

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1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

Absolutely untrue.  Rasmussen is so inaccurate that 538 dropped them from their polling averages list.  They are hopelessly biased and well known to be so by the industry.

Oh really. Is that why their poll was the most accurate here?

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1 hour ago, morrobay said:

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Keep in mind pollsters are evolving all the time. Learning from mistakes. They should be a lot more accurate in 2024 to at least take into account the Trump factor's such as reticence to admit you are a Trumpie. 

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9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

As of mid-August 2024......

 

 

1. Arizona: Harris is leading. The state remains highly competitive, with both candidates polling around 47-48%.

2. Georgia: The race is nearly tied, with both Harris and Trump polling around 48%, making Georgia one of the most closely watched states.

3. Michigan: Harris has the advantage, leading by 2-3 percentage points. This state is critical for both campaigns, given its history of flipping in recent elections.

4. Pennsylvania: Harris is ahead, with a lead of about 2 percentage points. Pennsylvania is another key battleground that could determine the election outcome.

5. Wisconsin: The race is very close, with Harris leading by a narrow margin. Wisconsin is a pivotal state that has seen swings in recent elections.

6. Nevada: Trump has a slight edge in this state, leading by 1-2 percentage points. Nevada remains competitive and could go either way depending on voter turnout.

 

Based on?   RCP is a poll aggregator so generally is fairly accurate. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Good point well made.....Trump has never won the popular vote.....🤭

True. And he doesn't need to.  Like many other countries, the popular vote has no meaning.  Campaigns need to focus on the Electoral College. It was one of Hillary's biggest mistakes in 2016. 

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4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

True. And he doesn't need to.  Like many other countries, the popular vote has no meaning.  Campaigns need to focus on the Electoral College. It was one of Hillary's biggest mistakes in 2016. 

 

 

Not one Harris is going to repeat going off the polls.

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8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

True. And he doesn't need to.  Like many other countries, the popular vote has no meaning.  Campaigns need to focus on the Electoral College. It was one of Hillary's biggest mistakes in 2016. 

Well the point WBG "missed" is the fact that Rasmussen made the most accurate poll with Clinton + 2% . And final  was Clinton + 2.1% Again 

 

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9 minutes ago, morrobay said:

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Well the point WBG "missed" is the fact that Rasmussen made the most accurate poll with Clinton + 2% . And final  was Clinton + 2.1% Again 

 

 

 

Some people predict five horse accumulators...

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“When we gave [Trump billionaire megadonor Miriam Adelson] the Presidential Medal of Freedom. That's the highest award you can get as a civilian. It’s the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor, but civilian version. It’s actually much better because everyone who gets the Congressional Medal of Honor, they’re soldiers. They’re either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets or they’re dead. She gets it and she’s a healthy beautiful woman, it's great,” Trump remarked.

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