Harris tops Trump in national polling for presidential race

[newnative]

22 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Trump beats Harris in key state poll

 

 https://emersoncollegepolling.com/pennsylvania-2024-poll-trump-49-harris-48/

But tied if RFK is on the ballot.

[maesariang]

12 minutes ago, newnative said:

But tied if RFK is on the ballot.

I thought Trump was polling badly. That's what the Harris cheerleaders say.

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[Danderman123]

44 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Trump beats Harris in key state poll

 

 https://emersoncollegepolling.com/pennsylvania-2024-poll-trump-49-harris-48/

This will change as union members hear about Trump's comments about firing union members.

[Danderman123]

9 minutes ago, maesariang said:

I thought Trump was polling badly. That's what the Harris cheerleaders say.

Last month, Trump was winning big in Pennsylvania. Now, not so much.

[Skeptic7]

11 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

susan who? 

aka Big Nok/Just my opinion 🤣

[Danderman123]

50 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Trump beats Harris in key state poll

 

 https://emersoncollegepolling.com/pennsylvania-2024-poll-trump-49-harris-48/

You forgot this one!

 

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/michigan/trump-vs-harris

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

2 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

aka Big Nok/Just my opinion 🤣

And they both seem to have disappeared. Hmmm.

[HappyExpat57]

18 minutes ago, maesariang said:

I thought Trump was polling badly. That's what the Harris cheerleaders say.

No, that's what the polls  say.

[Skeptic7]

21 minutes ago, maesariang said:

I thought Trump was polling badly. That's what the Harris cheerleaders say.

She's not a "Harris cheerleader" 

 

https://youtu.be/i7gy5awy5I8?si=FPIQs-G1YpNZiRhT

[HappyExpat57]

2 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

She's not a "Harris cheerleader" 

 

https://youtu.be/i7gy5awy5I8?si=FPIQs-G1YpNZiRhT

I think susan has reincarnated.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

39 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

And they both seem to have disappeared. Hmmm.

No he's posting on this page. New name. See if you can guess. Not hard. 

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, BobBKK said:

I remember the polls in 2016 - I remember CNN, MSNBC, and even Obama all LAUGHING at Trump. 

Hahaha he'll never be President hahaha - the American voters will decide and, frankly, it is very tight

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. The polls were right.

[maesariang]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. The polls were right.

They were wrong by over 1 point. The polls in 2020 wrong by almost 3 points. This is despite polling groups making changes to their methods. The errors more than doubled in size.

[Roo Island]

3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Winning the national poll is like capturing the most pawns in a game of chess. Interesting but irrelevant.  The swing states are the key, and they are still very much up for grabs, depending on what poll you see.  Harris will lose her 'honeymoon bump' and fall back to earth. Possibly during the Convention if it is disrupted, and definitely once she starts actually speaking TO the public and not AT the public.  Her campaign so far has been brilliant in keeping her far from actual Q and A, and that has helped for sure. But it can't last until November.

Your opinion. It's definitely too early to call the race, but it's not looking good for Trump. Especially if he continues to bitch about Harris rather than focus on what Americans want. Doubt he will change and probably will get worse.

 

Isn't his court date set for September? Could have an influence

[Roo Island]

3 hours ago, renaissanc said:

Americans are too dumb to know what Socialism is like.

 

Kamala's price controls? Pure Communism.

 

Good luck, Americans! "Derrrr! Ma bwain herts!" people.

Seems like you don't understand either. Perhaps this will help. P.S. there is no pure communist country. North Korea being the closest.

 

The concepts of socialism and communism have similarities and differences. As theoretical ideas, they are more alike than they are opposing, but put into practice these two concepts garner distinctly different results.

Socialism is a philosophy based in social and economic sciences that strive to lessen inequalities by creating more equal distribution systems of a society's resources. Communism is also a social and economic philosophy that seeks to create greater equality, however, it does so through the elimination of private property. Both theories seek to lessen inequalities in the societies they function in.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

14 minutes ago, maesariang said:

They were wrong by over 1 point. The polls in 2020 wrong by almost 3 points. This is despite polling groups making changes to their methods. The errors more than doubled in size.

Harris has new policies now. Her recent speech was pretty good. More to come this week. So that concern will be addressed. 

[puck2]

13 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

As more polls are published, Kamala Harris will generate a bigger lead.

 

Trump is a failed candidate, a tired old man who can't keep up.

 

Let us hope you are right.

 

But don't forget the idiotic election system of the USA. The "loser" (of more than 3 Million votes) can be nominated as US-POTUS, what had happened in the 2016-election.

 

The majority of the all the US- votes may have the same value as toilet papers.

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[Danderman123]

41 minutes ago, maesariang said:

They were wrong by over 1 point. The polls in 2020 wrong by almost 3 points. This is despite polling groups making changes to their methods. The errors more than doubled in size.

You are familiar with the statistical concept of "margin of error", right?

[maesariang]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

You are familiar with the statistical concept of "margin of error", right?

Both errors went to one side. Not small errors either. 2.9% is rather large for many polls. An error of that size is common for 1 poll but not for many combined. Their methods got worse not better. Many people have reported being phone by polling companies only to be hung up on when they stated who they supported.

[mushroomdave]

4 hours ago, renaissanc said:

Is that not treasonous?

Within their own party maybe yes......but no concern of the Rep's and 100% not ILLEGAL like what this idiot tried doing.

 

Wow you have to love how his followers "try" to deflect just like [Trump] tries !! 

 

Hmmmmm....I wonder if the warden will allow him his bronzer in prison???

 

" LOCK HIM UP, LOCK HIM UP, LOCK HIM UP!! "

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[Hanaguma]

37 minutes ago, puck2 said:

 

Let us hope you are right.

 

But don't forget the idiotic election system of the USA. The "loser" (of more than 3 Million votes) can be nominated as US-POTUS, what had happened in the 2016-election.

 

The majority of the all the US- votes may have the same value as toilet papers.

I think there are very few countries that have a majority vote count election. Most have some sort of parliamentary or federal system- at least in the G7. Do you know of any?

[newnative]

8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

I think there are very few countries that have a majority vote count election. Most have some sort of parliamentary or federal system- at least in the G7. Do you know of any?

     From what I can tell if I searched right: South Korea, Honduras, Taiwan, Brazil, Mexico, Iceland, Malaysia, Panama, Virgin Islands, Nicaragua, Bosnia, Paraguay, Venezuela, Philippines, Congo, and others.  Dozens of countries, such as Finland, Brazil, France, Russia, Austria, and Portugal, use popular vote but a candidate must win at least 50% of the vote in the first round.  If not, a second round is needed, with usually the top two vote-getters facing off.  

[maesariang]

2 minutes ago, newnative said:

     From what I can tell if I searched right: South Korea, Honduras, Taiwan, Brazil, Mexico, Iceland, Malaysia, Panama, Virgin Islands, Nicaragua, Bosnia, Paraguay, Venezuela, Philippines, Congo, and others.  Dozens of countries, such as Finland, Brazil, France, Russia, Austria, and Portugal, use popular vote but a candidate must win at least 50% of the vote in the first round.  If not, a second round is needed, with usually the top two vote-getters facing off.  

So lots of basket case countries.

[thecyclist]

6 hours ago, renaissanc said:

Americans are too dumb to know what Socialism is like.

 

Kamala's price controls? Pure Communism.

 

Good luck, Americans! "Derrrr! Ma bwain herts!" people.

You have a brain??

[thrilled]

Isn’t this Zthailand? Why do you think we care about the U.S. ?

[Caldera]

She will beat the old demagogue, who will then have time to go to prison. 

[newnative]

53 minutes ago, Caldera said:

She will beat the old demagogue, who will then have time to go to prison. 

Where he will, hopefully, learn some sort of skill to support himself for when, or if, he is ever released back into society.

[maesariang]

12 hours ago, newnative said:

Where he will, hopefully, learn some sort of skill to support himself for when, or if, he is ever released back into society.

He receives a high pension unlike the normal one. He does not live in cheap condos.