Thaksin to receive certificate of innocence following his release under royal pardon

[2long]

It must surely be a mistranslation.

Innocence means 'didn't do anything wrong.'

This guy has (in the eyes of the law) fulfilled his punishment for being 'guilty' and received a pardon.

Quite different to be 'innocent.'

[klauskunkel]

Having been found innocent his daughter is now starting the process of recompensating Thaksin for his years spent in exile...  

[ignore it]

Khao San Road.  100THB

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, TheFishman1 said:

So where did the guy accumulate all his great well, I mean, like billions corruption corruption corruption leaves the country 15 years flies back in the $65 million jet less than a year he’s completely innocent of any all charges in his sister. She’s ready to convicted for stealing, even though she’s heavily guarded in her home, she was able to escape and flee the country, and now the icing on the cake, the guy comes back to fixes in less than a year. His daughter is the Prime Minister who would ever believe this. TIT

 

Now that he has letter of innocence.... does the goverment give back the billions they stole from him when they froze his bank accounts ?

[MikeandDow]

7 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Now that he has letter of innocence.... does the goverment give back the billions they stole from him when they froze his bank accounts ?

you keep saying letter of innocence it is a bad translation it is a letter of forgiveness Thaskin IS a convicted felon  and that will not change 

[LukKrueng]

7 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Good point....555

 

Certificate of innocence issued to someone awaiting trial.....only in Thailand.

He's innocent until proven guilty in the case he's waiting for. However, he is a convicted felon, so certificate of innocence is really stretching it....

I wonder if he would be able to get a visa to countries like Australia where one must indicate any criminal record...

[MikeandDow]

41 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

He's innocent until proven guilty in the case he's waiting for. However, he is a convicted felon, so certificate of innocence is really stretching it....

I wonder if he would be able to get a visa to countries like Australia where one must indicate any criminal record...

  "wonder if he would be able to get a visa to countries like Australia where one must indicate any criminal record...""

bit of a stupid question don't you think

[cowellandrew]

15 hours ago, watchcat said:

He'll probably nail it to the wall.

Dont think so is arm is still in the sling!

😂😂😂😂👮‍♂️🙈

[cowellandrew]

10 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

No a cert of Innocence it is a bad translation is a cert of Forgiveness, thaskin is a convicted felon there is no if or buts

Well no ifs or buts dont go very far in court she has blown them off again!😂

[LukKrueng]

14 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

  "wonder if he would be able to get a visa to countries like Australia where one must indicate any criminal record...""

bit of a stupid question don't you think

Probably as stupid as you quoting my reply and then re-write it...

[Scouse123]

18 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

No a cert of Innocence it is a bad translation is a cert of Forgiveness, thaskin is a convicted felon there is no if or buts

 

Thank you.

[Ralf001]

16 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

you keep saying letter of innocence it is a bad translation it is a letter of forgiveness Thaskin IS a convicted felon  and that will not change 

 

yeah.... best you take the matter up with the person who started the thread ifit annoys you that much.

[MikeandDow]

2 hours ago, LukKrueng said:

Probably as stupid as you quoting my reply and then re-write it...

Sorry you have to do that lots of poster can not figure out what you are posting  about on here. lots of immature posts like your self, but you must agree it was a stupid question  

[newnative]

19 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

No a cert of Innocence it is a bad translation is a cert of Forgiveness, thaskin is a convicted felon there is no if or buts

That makes a lot more sense than the ridiculous 'innocence' take.  

[Patong2021]

18 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

you keep saying letter of innocence it is a bad translation it is a letter of forgiveness Thaskin IS a convicted felon  and that will not change 

 

Not exactly. And  no I am not nitpicking, but there is a difference between the Pardon (the action) and the Certificate (the result). They are two separate things. 

Yes, the Pardon in itself is considered an act of forgiveness  that "eliminates"  the sentence attached to it.  Thaksin WAS a convicted criminal,

The Certificate of Innocence is the result of receiving a Pardon; a discharge of the penalty.  The Certificate is issued  because of the Pardon.  In effect.  The criminal charge is wiped out, such that the conviction does not matter going forward.  This is why the Certificate allows him to travel. The charge goes away as does the penalty, even though he was in custody and then on probation.  He can carry on as if there was never a criminal charge and a conviction of that charge.

[MikeandDow]

13 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Not exactly. And  no I am not nitpicking, but there is a difference between the Pardon (the action) and the Certificate (the result). They are two separate things. 

Yes, the Pardon in itself is considered an act of forgiveness  that "eliminates"  the sentence attached to it.  Thaksin WAS a convicted criminal,

The Certificate of Innocence is the result of receiving a Pardon; a discharge of the penalty.  The Certificate is issued  because of the Pardon.  In effect.  The criminal charge is wiped out, such that the conviction does not matter going forward.  This is why the Certificate allows him to travel. The charge goes away as does the penalty, even though he was in custody and then on probation.  He can carry on as if there was never a criminal charge and a conviction of that charge.

you are dreaming

Referencing Section 67 of the Corrections Act 2017, this certificate is not merely a piece of paper—it’s a formal attestation that the individual has been legally discharged and granted the liberty to travel abroad.

 

that is all, he still has a criminal record and is classed as convicted Felon in the eyes of Thai law

 

[LukKrueng]

2 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Sorry you have to do that lots of poster can not figure out what you are posting  about on here. lots of immature posts like your self, but you must agree it was a stupid question  

Sorry you do not understand sarcasm.

[thesetat2013]

On 8/20/2024 at 9:37 AM, lordgrinz said:

Only one persons nod is needed for a "certificate of innocence", all others just follow suit, or else.

 

 

 

And now, he will have the ability to enter politics legally again allowing him to be his daughters visibly right hand man. Nothing is impossible when you are filthy rich in Thailand and not a foreigner. Acts like this need to be addressed by the Thais yet, even my wife says nothing to do as it is all being done legally albeit underhanded.