What Happened to Inflation? Bidenomics

[TedG]

Just now, Roo Island said:

A once in a lifetime pandemic. Shutdown was recommended by the medical community. And opposed by maga cult members

 

The COVID shutdowns were draconian.

[Roo Island]

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

Krugman is nothing but a left-wing pundit for the NY Times.   I still laughed at his hissing comment. 

Guaranteed. He knows more about economics than you or I.

[Roo Island]

2 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

The COVID shutdowns were draconian.

And recommended by scientists and medical professionals. Denounced by nutjobs

[TedG]

1 minute ago, Roo Island said:

And recommended by scientists and medical professionals. Denounced by nutjobs

 

Please show me the science that proves shutdowns worked.

 

 

CHAPTERS OCT. 30, 2023

COVID Lockdowns Were a Giant Experiment. It Was a Failure.

 

A key lesson of the pandemic.

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/covid-lockdowns-big-fail-joe-nocera-bethany-mclean-book-excerpt.html

 

 

 

 

[TedG]

2 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

And recommended by scientists and medical professionals. Denounced by nutjobs

 

A Johns Hopkins study says 'ill-founded' COVID lockdowns did more harm than good

https://health.wusf.usf.edu/health-news-florida/2022-02-02/a-johns-hopkins-study-says-ill-founded-lockdowns-did-little-to-limit-covid-deaths

 

The researchers say lockdowns had no noticeable effect on reducing COVID-related deaths and a "devastating effect" on economies and social ills

[Roo Island]

1 minute ago, TedG said:

 

Please show me the science that proves shutdowns worked.

 

 

CHAPTERS OCT. 30, 2023

COVID Lockdowns Were a Giant Experiment. It Was a Failure.

 

A key lesson of the pandemic.

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/covid-lockdowns-big-fail-joe-nocera-bethany-mclean-book-excerpt.html

 

 

 

 

Ny mag? Really?

[Roo Island]

1 minute ago, TedG said:

 

A Johns Hopkins study says 'ill-founded' COVID lockdowns did more harm than good

https://health.wusf.usf.edu/health-news-florida/2022-02-02/a-johns-hopkins-study-says-ill-founded-lockdowns-did-little-to-limit-covid-deaths

 

The researchers say lockdowns had no noticeable effect on reducing COVID-related deaths and a "devastating effect" on economies and social ills

Another nutty website. Link to the John's Hopkins study.

[Irish star]

14 minutes ago, TedG said:

He is the dude who said the housing bubble was not a big deal. 

20 years ago , you crow have to get current, cmon Boomers 

[TedG]

Just now, Roo Island said:

Ny mag? Really?

 

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

[TedG]

Just now, Roo Island said:

Another nutty website. Link to the John's Hopkins study.

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

 

This systematic review and meta-analysis are designed to determine whether there is empirical
evidence to support the belief that “lockdowns” reduce COVID-19 mortality. Lockdowns are
defined as the imposition of at least one compulsory, non-pharmaceutical intervention (NPI).
NPIs are any government mandate that directly restrict peoples’ possibilities, such as policies that
limit internal movement, close schools and businesses, and ban international travel. This study
employed a systematic search and screening procedure in which 18,590 studies are identified
that could potentially address the belief posed. After three levels of screening, 34 studies
ultimately qualified. Of those 34 eligible studies, 24 qualified for inclusion in the meta-analysis.
They were separated into three groups: lockdown stringency index studies, shelter-in-place-
order (SIPO) studies, and specific NPI studies. An analysis of each of these three groups support
the conclusion that lockdowns have had little to no effect on COVID-19 mortality. More
specifically, stringency index studies find that lockdowns in Europe and the United States only
reduced COVID-19 mortality by 0.2% on average. SIPOs were also ineffective, only reducing
COVID-19 mortality by 2.9% on average. Specific NPI studies also find no broad-based evidence
of noticeable effects on COVID-19 mortality.

[Roo Island]

2 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

A Johns Hopkins study says 'ill-founded' COVID lockdowns did more harm than good

https://health.wusf.usf.edu/health-news-florida/2022-02-02/a-johns-hopkins-study-says-ill-founded-lockdowns-did-little-to-limit-covid-deaths

 

The researchers say lockdowns had no noticeable effect on reducing COVID-related deaths and a "devastating effect" on economies and social ills

https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/large-scale-lockdowns-in-europe-saved-millions-of-lives/25046

 

Large scale lockdowns in Europe saved millions of lives

[stoner]

10 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

A once in a lifetime pandemic. Shutdown was recommended by the medical community. And opposed by maga cult members

 

Your reply is pointless to that comment. Most of the gains and jobs etc had nothing to do with Biden or his policies. It was the result of lifting all the pandemic restrictions. 

[TedG]

Just now, Irish star said:

20 years ago , you crow have to get current, cmon Boomers 

It would be best if you sat at the kid's table. 

[TedG]

1 minute ago, Roo Island said:

https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/large-scale-lockdowns-in-europe-saved-millions-of-lives/25046

 

Large scale lockdowns in Europe saved millions of lives

That's dated June 2020 during COVID. 

[Roo Island]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2388929-lockdowns-and-face-masks-really-did-help-to-control-covid-19/

 

Lockdowns and face masks really did help to control covid-19

Non-vaccine measures such as social distancing and wearing face masks have been "unequivocally effective" at preventing the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, according to a major report by the UK's Royal Society

[Roo Island]

2 minutes ago, TedG said:

It would be best if you sat at the kid's table. 

You first

[Mo Sawadee]

On 8/23/2024 at 4:17 AM, Hanaguma said:

Yes, and it was a stupid thing to do.  And then Biden made it worse by overspending on Covid relief that injected way too much money into the economy.  Still havent recovered from that either. 

Trump shut down the economy? What Federal mandates did he impose? The left politicized it, mocked him for calling out China. Held no one accountable. Dems still claim it is by Bats. Meanwhile forced Seniors out of hospitals into the worse layer of our healthcare. Zero responsibility… massive death. Wait…  Trumps fault. Biden had more Covid deaths in his first year than Trump had in the first year of the pandemic. Biden had 3 vaccines and therapeutics… when he entered the office.  The Lame stream media was silent.
 

The Country certainly did react to the Pandemic. It’s the Blue states that locked down the most severe. put 10’s of thousands of businesses out of business. States rights, not the Feds. This is typical of Dems, like blaming Trump for the crime in Chicago. Dems have run that city for 100 years. Dem police Chiefs, Dem city councils. They have 100% control over who gets hired, how many get hired, the training, the engagement rules and gun laws. But it’s The “Donalds” fault they have 40 shootings and 10 murders a week. 

[TedG]

3 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2388929-lockdowns-and-face-masks-really-did-help-to control-covid-19/

 

Lockdowns and face masks really did help to control covid-19

Non-vaccine measures such as social distancing and wearing face masks have been "unequivocally effective" at preventing the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, according to a major report by the UK's Royal Society

Lockdowns were destructive.   This study looks at the results of many studies on the topic. 

 

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

[Keep Right]

"What happened to Inflation?" Inflation is still historically high thanks to the socialist measures instilled by the Biden and Harris administration. Giving free money to every citizen of the United States during Covid as well as forgiving student debt, massive government spending, supporting huge wage increases by unions are just some of the measures that have increased inflation. Nothing will change under Word Salad Harris.

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[Roo Island]

27 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

"What happened to Inflation?" Inflation is still historically high thanks to the socialist measures instilled by the Biden and Harris administration. Giving free money to every citizen of the United States during Covid as well as forgiving student debt, massive government spending, supporting huge wage increases by unions are just some of the measures that have increased inflation. Nothing will change under Word Salad Harris.

Divisive memes. Mostly used by those with lower iq.

[Gknrd]

Baby boomers taking their money out of the market, Re-shoring at a neck breaking rate. It takes a tremendos amount of capital to re-shore. Inflation will be with us for a few more years IMO.  Curious to see what the fed's will do next month.  

But all the Americans on here that hate America will always hate. Truth is the stock market is at all time highs, beating all other countries as far as I know. I find it very comical with all the US citizens complaining that the sky is falling , when it is off the charts in the US " as in growing like crazy ". 

I live overseas at least 6 months a year because I am retired and it is much cheaper, and much more enjoyable.  If I were still in my working age years. There is no other place in the world I would rather be than the USA.

 

Edited August 24 by Gknrd

[Patong2021]

20 hours ago, mdr224 said:

Gas in this country has never been higher, except for this time before elections where government is suppressing the price

 

Not exactly.    AAA National Average $3.361  Price as of 8/24/24

2011-2014  Saw unadjusted gas prices range from $3.53 to $3.64 to $3.53.  Adjust for the time value function and the cost is higher.   I get it. The cost of gasoline has an increase trend through the years.  

 

One thing I  don't understand is why the Feds get blamed as much as they do for the cost of gas. The individual states are the  largest factor in  the cost of gas at the pump. Republican  Utah adds $0.33 per gal. De Santis Republican Florida adds $0.35 per gal. Tim Walz Democrat adds $0.28 per gal  Democrat New Mexico adds $0.19 per gal.

And California, the largest economy in the USA  and the single largest contributor of tax revenues  amongst the states, the state that provides the revenue used to prop up economic backwater states like Republican Louisiana and Mississippi, adds $0.77 per gal. It's also the state that serves as the caregiver for many of the nations destitute internal migrants.

 

 

 

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, TedG said:

 

A Johns Hopkins study says 'ill-founded' COVID lockdowns did more harm than good

https://health.wusf.usf.edu/health-news-florida/2022-02-02/a-johns-hopkins-study-says-ill-founded-lockdowns-did-little-to-limit-covid-deaths

 

The researchers say lockdowns had no noticeable effect on reducing COVID-related deaths and a "devastating effect" on economies and social ills

 

The key to citing  academic studies is to  actually reading the studies and  understanding the  subject matter.

As per the title A LITERATURE REVIEW AND META-ANALYSIS OF THE EFFECTS OF LOCKDOWNS ON COVID-19 MORTALITY     Do you see the key word Covid 19 Mortality?  It is not a study on economic impact, nor on social impact, ONLY Covid 19 mortality.

 

The shelter in place and reduced activity  strategy  primary objective was to protect critical components of national infrastructure. It was intended to ensure continuity of critical services and in that regard was a success. Prior to the restrictions, people were falling sick and booking off sick for weeks. The health system was in danger of collapse. Children may not have been at risk, but they carried the infections to their families where parents then imported the infections to their respective workplaces.   Had the measures not been in place, health networks would have crashed and first responder capabilities would have been significantly reduced. The restrictions were intended to protect food supplies, the energy grid, national defense, health care and to maintain civil order. They worked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Roo Island]

2 hours ago, Gknrd said:

Baby boomers taking their money out of the market, Re-shoring at a neck breaking rate. It takes a tremendos amount of capital to re-shore. Inflation will be with us for a few more years IMO.  Curious to see what the fed's will do next month.  

But all the Americans on here that hate America will always hate. Truth is the stock market is at all time highs, beating all other countries as far as I know. I find it very comical with all the US citizens complaining that the sky is falling , when it is off the charts in the US " as in growing like crazy ". 

I live overseas at least 6 months a year because I am retired and it is much cheaper, and much more enjoyable.  If I were still in my working age years. There is no other place in the world I would rather be than the USA.

 

Agreed. The US is doing great. Stock market is good, unemployment is low. Those on here complaining and full of hate follow Trump and the dodgy right wing media outlets.

 

Like you, living overseas allows a higher lifestyle. With caveats. Dodgy air, water and infrastructure. The Uis a great place to live. Sadly, it's divided due to dodgy politicians and media outlets

[Cameroni]

22 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The key to citing  academic studies is to  actually reading the studies and  understanding the  subject matter.

As per the title A LITERATURE REVIEW AND META-ANALYSIS OF THE EFFECTS OF LOCKDOWNS ON COVID-19 MORTALITY     Do you see the key word Covid 19 Mortality?  It is not a study on economic impact, nor on social impact, ONLY Covid 19 mortality.

 

The shelter in place and reduced activity  strategy  primary objective was to protect critical components of national infrastructure. It was intended to ensure continuity of critical services and in that regard was a success. Prior to the restrictions, people were falling sick and booking off sick for weeks. The health system was in danger of collapse. Children may not have been at risk, but they carried the infections to their families where parents then imported the infections to their respective workplaces.   Had the measures not been in place, health networks would have crashed and first responder capabilities would have been significantly reduced. The restrictions were intended to protect food supplies, the energy grid, national defense, health care and to maintain civil order. They worked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Absolute garbage. The lockdowns were a complete failure, Covid spread anyway and those countries that locked down hardest had the worst Covid death rates. 2 trillion USD of people's wealth was destroyed by idiot politicians failing to do their job and evaluating the lockdown option properly. 

 

Inflation was a direct result of the supply chain disruptions which the wholly unnecessary lockdowns caused. 

Edited August 24 by Cameroni

[Roo Island]

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Absolute garbage. The lockdowns were a complete failure, Covid spread anyway and those countries that locked down hardest had the worst Covid death rates. 2 trillion USD of people's wealth was destroyed by idiot politicians failing to do their job and evaluating the lockdown option properly. 

 

Inflation was a direct result of the supply chain disruptions which the wholly unnecessary lockdowns caused. 

The lockdowns were a failure because many ignored them! Didn't get the jabs. And didn't wear masks or social distance. If more would have gotten the jabs, lockdowns wouldn't have been necessary.

 

An example.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/03/florida-measles-outbreak-preventable

 

Florida is swamped by disease outbreaks as quackery replaces science

The state is in the grip of a measles outbreak, yet Joseph Ladapo, the surgeon general, continues to ignore medical science to stop it

[Cameroni]

11 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

The lockdowns were a failure because many ignored them! Didn't get the jabs. And didn't wear masks or social distance. If more would have gotten the jabs, lockdowns wouldn't have been necessary.

 

An example.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/03/florida-measles-outbreak-preventable

 

Florida is swamped by disease outbreaks as quackery replaces science

The state is in the grip of a measles outbreak, yet Joseph Ladapo, the surgeon general, continues to ignore medical science to stop it

Lockdowns could only have worked with proper timing,  by the time politicians put them in place it was already way too late. But like in Sweden a proper evaluation of the benefits and disadvantages of lockdown should have taken place. Only in Sweden did they do their job and correctly determined that lockdown was not desirable. In virtually all other countries they just copied Italy and England, with disastrous results for all of us. Inflation today is still a result of those failures by politicians like Boris Johnson, who caved in the face of Science hysterics like Neil Ferguson and abdicated responsibility. There should be a Nuremberg trial to bring all those politicians to account. 

[Roo Island]

Just now, Cameroni said:

Lockdowns could only have worked with proper timing,  by the time politicians put them in place it was already way too late. But like in Sweden a proper evaluation of the benefits and disadvantages of lockdown should have taken place. Only in Sweden did they do their job and correctly determined that lockdown was not desirable. In virtually all other countries they just copied Italy and England, with disastrous results for all of us. Inflation today is still a result of those failures by politicians like Boris Johnson, who caved in the face of Science hysterics like Neil Ferguson and abdicated responsibility. There should be a Nuremberg trial to bring all those politicians to account. 

Sweden was a failure. They admitted it. Where do you get your news? Jeez

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55347021

 

Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'

[Cameroni]

10 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Sweden was a failure. They admitted it. Where do you get your news? Jeez

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55347021

 

Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'

Sweden was a success. The idiot king has no idea what shoe size he wears. Sweden had lower excess deaths than UK, Germany, Italy, Denmark, Spain and France, to name just a few.