The Importance of Respecting Trump Voters

[maesariang]

2 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Yes you taught me well.

You asked how to use a taxi. Says it all.

[Dan O]

1 minute ago, BigStar said:

 

Your post calling my post "dillusional" [sic] is delusional with little to nothing based in facts.

You posted no facts just your opinions. when you post facts with links then I'll reply in kind. 

[maesariang]

Just now, Dan O said:

You posted no facts just your opinions. when you post facts with links then I'll reply in kind. 

Where are your facts with links?

[WDSmart]

2 minutes ago, Chwooly said:

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

There are no taxes or "money" (wages?). 

Really so how does the state pay for those services? Show me 1 socialist state where there are no taxes or money

The state doesn't "pay" for any services. It provides them through the actions of its citizens. 

I don't think any states are providing true socialism. Most states, including the USA and Thailand, have a Keynesian economy, which is a mix of capitalism and socialism. For example, in the USA, any service which is called a "public" service is socialistic. Examples are public schools, public libraries, public streets, public parks, etc. Capitalistic services are usually called "private" services. It's the percentages of the mix of capitalism and socialism that are typically the source of arguments. 

[bubblegum]

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

You asked how to use a taxi. Says it all.

And you cannot even read.

Is this really your life? Being a bitch a day long ?

Can't you go to a bar and be an annoyance there or are you scared of people? Understandable living in a basement. 

[BigStar]

15 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You posted no facts just your opinions. when you post facts with links then I'll reply in kind. 

 

But who cares? I merely replied in kind to a diversionary post with no facts. All these issues have been argued ad nauseam previously, with facts, in other threads. Leftists will simply ignore any facts contrary to their brainwashing. Pop one balloon, they'll just blow up another. Eventually, they'll just repeat what's already been refuted. No point in wasting time. 

Edited September 2 by BigStar

[stoner]

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

I am a far-left liberal. I do not support wars. I do support borders that are open to refugees. I am concerned with rising unemployment, but that's a feature of capitalism. I support socialism. I used to love the USA, but now, after living in Thailand for 20 years and seeing the rise of people like Trump, the USA has definitely lost its appeal for me. 

 

you didn't seem to mind the USA or capitalism when you were making your wealth off the backs of ordinary americans. 

 

 

[WDSmart]

6 minutes ago, maesariang said:

I went to a public hospital with my inlaw. I left and went to gym and lunch. They waited 5 hours. That is a bad system.

It's not a "bad" system. It's a "public" system. It's a service provided to all citizens. If citizens don't want to wait and have money, they can go to a private hospital. Public hospitals are meant to be accessible to every citizen regardless of their ability to pay. That's the difference between capitalism and socialism.

[wwest5829]

24 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

What does that have to do with giving respect to other peoples opinions. You have your own. Everyone has their own. We all do not think alike or feel the same. That is what makes us human. But insulting and harassing others because their opinion varies from yours does not make you a good human. Nor does it make your opinion better than people who disagree. 

Where have I insulted or harassed? Address that to those you find taking that action. As far as opinions? Yes, most folks have them, however, that does not mean all opinions are equal. My Cardiologist’s opinion carries far more weight than anyone in general. While humbly acknowledging I certainly do not have all the answers, that I certainly can be wrong … nonetheless, unless I think the years gaining my knowledge base has been wasted on me … yes, I have a far greater knowledge base on which to draw than the average US citizen reading at the 7th - 8th grade level. I certainly do not personally denigrate … I was raised in a family where many of my parents generation could not finished high school due to the depression. Good folk but no where near what a college educated person should have knowledge of today.

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

you didn't seem to mind the USA or capitalism when you were making your wealth off the backs of ordinary americans. 

 

 

Now staying in far right Thailand for cheap prices. 

[Chwooly]

4 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

The state doesn't "pay" for any services. It provides them through the actions of its citizens. 

I don't think any states are providing true socialism. Most states, including the USA and Thailand, have a Keynesian economy, which is a mix of capitalism and socialism. For example, in the USA, any service which is called a "public" service is socialistic. Examples are public schools, public libraries, public streets, public parks, etc. Capitalistic services are usually called "private" services. It's the percentages of the mix of capitalism and socialism that are typically the source of arguments. 

Because true socialism wouldn't work. There are overachievers and underachievers. Anecdotaly there have been instances where socialism is tried and it devolves into the overachievers stopping achieving and the underachievers just not working. 

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

It's not a "bad" system. It's a "public" system. It's a service provided to all citizens. If citizens don't want to wait and have money, they can go to a private hospital. Public hospitals are meant to be accessible to every citizen regardless of their ability to pay. That's the difference between capitalism and socialism.

What rot. These hospitals are not much good and 5 hour wait. The socialist countries have much better hospitals and less wait time. You choose a far right country to live in and rejected all the socialist ones.

[WDSmart]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

you didn't seem to mind the USA or capitalism when you were making your wealth off the backs of ordinary americans. 

 

 

I did do that, but I became more aware of how wrong that was as I grew older. I once was a capitalist. Now, I am a socialist. And someday, I will probably become a communist. 

[maesariang]

Just now, WDSmart said:

I did do that, but I became more aware of how wrong that was as I grew older. I once was a capitalist. Now, I am a socialist. And someday, I will probably become a communist. 

It sounds fake to me. You just choose a cheap country to live in. 

[stoner]

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

(I pay about 4,000 baht for my yearly checkups.

 

as a socialist why are you not going to the cheaper subsidized govt hospitals ? 

 

why are you choosing the free market one ? 

[Chwooly]

14 minutes ago, candide said:

Still illogical. The fact that some conspiracy theories have been proven true is no clue that the mentioned ridiculous and debunked onspiracy theories are true.

Up until they were proven true, the same exact words you are posting were used to describe them. But again your social dissonance is strong. Reply or don't either way I am done since you are unable or unwilling to see anything that contradicts your perceived world view as fed to you by the MSM and the Democrats. 

[Dan O]

10 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Where are your facts with links?

Move along troll . I made no claims like the poster I replied to that did make claims 

[wwest5829]

4 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Now staying in far right Thailand for cheap prices. 

Ha! In my case, clearly I am a retired “economic refugee” member of the working middle class who cannot live in the USA on a sustainable working middle class retirement income of $2400.00 a month ($1750 of that from SS).

[WDSmart]

2 minutes ago, maesariang said:

What rot. These hospitals are not much good and 5 hour wait. The socialist countries have much better hospitals and less wait time. You choose a far right country to live in and rejected all the socialist ones.

Would you be surprised to learn that the doctors who work in the private hospitals are the same ones who work in the public hospitals? All doctors are required to put in some time in the public hospitals. 

As I keep saying, Thailand has aspects of both the far right and socialism. Most countries do. What difference would it make as to where I decided to retire? I don't rely on the capitalistic aspects of the country anymore. I'm retired.

[maesariang]

3 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

as a socialist why are you not going to the cheaper subsidized govt hospitals ? 

 

why are you choosing the free market one ? 

As a capitalist i seek out cheap massages.

[Dan O]

8 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

But who cares? I merely replied in kind to a diversionary post with no facts. All these issues have been argued ad nauseam previously, with facts, in other threads. You'll find that leftist will simply ignore any facts contrary to their brainwashing. Pop one balloon, they'll just blow up another. No point in wasting time. 

Again your posting a deflective response because you can't back up your responses which were mainly inaccurate. Have a great day thinking about all those liberals that live in you head. 

[stoner]

49 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

The point is, so would all of my fellow citizens. I may not have as good a life as I do now, but none of my fellow citizens would be living on the streets as they do now.

I'd prefer that.

 

donate all your wealth then and live as such.

 

 for you society should act before you do .....to enforce your moral code. and before you remind me you donate a small portion of your money it's simply not enough and not socialist. so you are simply being a hypocrite. 

[wwest5829]

2 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

as a socialist why are you not going to the cheaper subsidized govt hospitals ? 

 

why are you choosing the free market one ? 

Because socialism is not communism? Some look at all the Democratic/capitalist developed countries having some form of socialized national healthcare … except, of course, not the USA.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

9 minutes ago, maesariang said:

What rot. These hospitals are not much good and 5 hour wait. The socialist countries have much better hospitals and less wait time. You choose a far right country to live in and rejected all the socialist ones.

Sounds like you like the Australian part socialist health care system. Obamacare was an improvement to the US system wasn't it. See there is common ground. 

Edited September 2 by Fat is a type of crazy

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

Would you be surprised to learn that the doctors who work in the private hospitals are the same ones who work in the public hospitals? All doctors are required to put in some time in the public hospitals. 

As I keep saying, Thailand has aspects of both the far right and socialism. Most countries do. What difference would it make as to where I decided to retire? I don't rely on the capitalistic aspects of the country anymore. I'm retired.

You gave one example of socialism. Everything else is far right. The hotels are dirt cheap due to lack of regulation and over supply. The food is cheap due to supply. They have 7/11s everywhere due to capitalism. Most of the food markets would be banned in the west due to hygiene standards.

[WDSmart]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

donate all your wealth then and live as such.

 

 for you society should act before you do .....to enforce your moral code. and before you remind me you donate a small portion of your money it's simply not enough and not socialist. so you are simply being a hypocrite. 

No, I could donate all my money to (where?), and it would not make any real difference to anyone.

Now, if EVERYONE donated all their money to the state, and the state used it to provide social services, that would make quite a difference to everyone. 

[BigStar]

7 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Move along troll . I made no claims like the poster I replied to that did make claims 

 

Yes, you did. You claimed my post is "dillusional."

[bubblegum]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

donate all your wealth then and live as such.

 

 for you society should act before you do .....to enforce your moral code. and before you remind me you donate a small portion of your money it's simply not enough and not socialist. so you are simply being a hypocrite. 

I believe the definition on how people see socialism is a big divider between USA and Europe. It is very common as a political party in Europe to include the word social in the name of the party without being socialist as defined by some to be almost or same as communism. Therefore when people attack social programs as being socialism, there might be a bit of misunderstanding. 

[stoner]

5 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Because socialism is not communism? Some look at all the Democratic/capitalist developed countries having some form of socialized national healthcare … except, of course, not the USA.

 

a socialist would chose the government hospital over the private one. a true socialist i mean. 

[stoner]

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, I could donate all my money to (where?), and it would not make any real difference to anyone.

Now, if EVERYONE donated all their money to the state, and the state used it to provide social services, that would make quite a difference to everyone. 

 

see my quote above. i love your excuses here. well i could but it wont make a real difference to anyone ? 

 

really ? 

 

even if you had only a few hundred k... if you donated that to just 2 or 3 families it would drastically change their lives. 

 

you want society to adhere to your own moral code before you do. classic.