Liz Cheney Endorses Kamala Harris, Citing Threat of Trump

[bunnydrops]

46 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Russia with a GDP of $1.7T is  ranked the 11th largest economy in the world, while Ukraine ranked 59th with $130.8B

 

https://georank.org/economy/russia/ukraine#:~:text=Russia vs Ukraine%3A Economic Indicators,ranked 59th with %24130.8B.

You will also notice from your link that only around 13 out of the nearly 200 listed has an average 5 year GDP growth that is less than Russia at .5%. They are not in great shape and losing working-age men to the war isn't going to help.

[Cameroni]

37 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

You will also notice from your link that only around 13 out of the nearly 200 listed has an average 5 year GDP growth that is less than Russia at .5%. They are not in great shape and losing working-age men to the war isn't going to help.

 

Russia is in fantastic shape economically, it's GDP is growing more than the US, UK, Germany, or France. 

[bubblegum]

7 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Because he was lied to, misled and forced into this war. He extended his hand of friendship in the 90s, helped US space exploration, implemented western economic reforms and kept his word on Germany. In return he just received empty promises and lies, that NATO would not expand eastwards. Russia for decades made clear that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line and in Bucharest in 2008 this was announced to be the plan by NATO. Many western cold war warriors and Russia experts warned against what NATO was planning. Their calls were ignored and now we have outright propaganda pretending Putin wants to reconstitute imperial Russia and all these lies. I just don't like it. The truth about what is happening should be told, don't you think?

Georgia

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, bubblegum said:

And you seem to be happy with that.

It's called accepting reality.

[impulse]

13 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

At the time it was an accurate and cost effective assessment. Russia  became bolder and more aggressive  during the Trump isolationist administration, once it  saw that Trump was clueless on international power power dynamics.

 

I always wonder what kind of dope people are smoking when they miss the fact that Putin took Crimea under Obama's watch and Donbass under Biden's.  Then, they blame Trump.  If history repeats, Putin will probably take Kiev if Kamala's elected.

 

[Eric Loh]

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I always wonder what kind of dope people are smoking when they miss the fact that Putin took Crimea under Obama's watch and Donbass under Biden's.  Then, they blame Trump.  If history repeats, Putin will probably take Kiev if Kamala's elected.

 

Outcome of Donbass could have been different if Trump didn't withhold the military aid to Ukraine. The aid was critically important on the then on-going war in Donbas. 

[impulse]

9 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Outcome of Donbass could have been different if Trump didn't withhold the military aid to Ukraine. The aid was critically important on the then on-going war in Donbas. 

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

 

And how long did Biden have to undo any Trump policy before Putin attacked?  Like he undid all those border security policies that Trump implemented.  Took him less than a week...

 

Crimea's on Obama/Biden.  Donbass is on Biden/Harris.  Crickets under Trump.

 

[candide]

13 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Russia with a GDP of $1.7T is  ranked the 11th largest economy in the world, while Ukraine ranked 59th with $130.8B

 

https://georank.org/economy/russia/ukraine#:~:text=Russia vs Ukraine%3A Economic Indicators,ranked 59th with %24130.8B.

It's interesting to read that Russia is 68th for GDP per capita! 😁

[Eric Loh]

49 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

 

And how long did Biden have to undo any Trump policy before Putin attacked?  Like he undid all those border security policies that Trump implemented.  Took him less than a week...

 

Crimea's on Obama/Biden.  Donbass is on Biden/Harris.  Crickets under Trump.

 

Biden undid the quid pro quo Trump’s policy on 23 Feb 2022 which was a day after Russia invasion. Biden with US allies prevented the occupation of Ukraine which Trump would have gifted Putin. 

[candide]

14 hours ago, bunnydrops said:

The Russian economy isn't so big

https://www.hppr.org/hppr-economy-and-enterprise/2018-04-17/who-has-the-bigger-economy-russia-or-texas

 

This quote summarises the failure of Putin's economic governance:

 

"That means Texas crushes Russia when it comes to per capita GDP. The per person GDP for a Russian is around $9,000, while in Texas the GDP averages out to almost $59,000 per person. What’s more, while the Russian economy almost exclusively revolves around crude oil production, Texas has been diversifying its economy for decades. "

[mogandave]

8 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Outcome of Donbass could have been different if Trump didn't withhold the military aid to Ukraine. The aid was critically important on the then on-going war in Donbas. 

Obama refused to provide Ukraine with defensive weapons while he was in office. 

 

Trump started providing defensive weapons to Ukraine after he came into office, and only delayed them for a couple weeks.

 

Biden came into office and halted the weapons deliveries to Ukraine that Trump al had started. 

 

[Tug]

Here’s a little tidbit for ya Dick Cheney is voting for Harris as well……what’s that tell ya about how real republicans feel about Donald John trump ehh???

[impulse]

18 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Biden undid the quid pro quo Trump’s policy on 23 Feb 2022 which was a day after Russia invasion. Biden with US allies prevented the occupation of Ukraine which Trump would have gifted Putin. 

 

And exactly what role did President citizen Trump play in Putin taking Crimea under Obama?  Years before Trump was even a candidate.  You should go in and get checked for the syndrome.

 

Edited September 7 by impulse