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8 hours ago, Tug said:

That fake news quip is funny……is that an admission confession thing?just about everything out of that fraud’s mouth is fake!!

Just your regular reminder - every accusation is a confession with these guys. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

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6 minutes ago, johng said:

They have tried and continue to try   but keep on running into that slight 1st amendment problem...darn that pesky constitution !

Another way to say you have nothing.

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The case of  State of Missouri v. Biden

 

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca5/23-30445/23-30445-2023-10-03.html

 

 

 

Ultimately, we find the district court did not err in determining that several officials—namely the White House, the Surgeon General, the CDC,the FBI, and CISA—likely coerced or significantly encouraged social-media
platforms to moderate content, rendering those decisions state actions.20 In doing so, the officials likely violated the First Amendment

 

and

 

 we do not take our decision today
lightly. But, the Supreme Court has rarely been faced with a coordinated campaign of this magnitude orchestrated by federal officials that jeopardized a fundamental aspect of American life. Therefore, the district court was
correct in its assessment—“unrelenting pressure” from certain government officials likely “had the intended result of suppressing millions of protected free speech postings by American citizens.” We see no error or abuse of
discretion in that finding...

 

And then gave them the green light to carry on regardless !!!

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Right now the biggest threat to the nation and the world is a man who is on the decline, is the oldest to ever run for the office, and has some very bizarre ideas about governance, never listens to his advisors, never read the security briefings on a daily basis as president, and always thinks that he knows best. 

 

In my opinion he started to fade in the last year of his presidency. He may have had a minor stroke. Since then, it has been a steady downhill path. Far less coherent than in the past, very hard for him to continue a sentence for more than 15 seconds, alot of rambling, complaining, playing the victim card, and juvenile name calling as usual. Even most of the CEO's he met with a month ago were shocked at how lacking his message was.

 

He is in the beginning stages of severe cognitive decline and it's a horrific thing to watch, he's an increasingly dangerous man and having him as the oldest elected president in history would not be a good thing. He rambles on and on, and it is easy to discern that he has a very hard time maintaining a thought for more than 15 seconds. He is, and has always been the master of slogans, and memes, but the public is just getting tired of the same game, day in and day out. He does not possess the creative juice to adapt, and that is absolutely killing his campaign, at this point. He is headed for the greatest humiliation of his lifetime.

 

He's old, he's tired, he's now the oldest person to ever run for president, he's feels like he's 85 or 90 right now, he seems to be losing interest, he seems to be losing the plot, his message is getting tired, he has no ability to dance on his feet and be creative, and adapt, and he just seems to be disintegrating before our eyes, which is a beautiful thing to watch.

 

And now, he seems to regret his choice of Vance, and seems very stressed out over Harris. Can't blame him for that.

 

He does seem to be imploding. Hoping he loses big, and they lock him up. 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

“Trump Pledges to Restore Free Speech, Labels 'Fake News' a Threat to the Nation”

 

Translation: you can (and should) lie your @sses off and spread as many conspiracy theories as you want to further the MAGA cause. Anything that doesn’t fit that narrative will be labeled ‘fake news’ and those spreading this ‘fake news’ will be ridiculed, threatened and preferably prosecuted and muzzled.

Of course, for Trump, fake news means acknowledging that the 2020 election was not rigged by massive fraud! 😀

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Posts using derogatory and toxic nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly, this applies to both sides of the political debate.

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22 minutes ago, johng said:

The case of  State of Missouri v. Biden

 

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca5/23-30445/23-30445-2023-10-03.html

 

 

 

Ultimately, we find the district court did not err in determining that several officials—namely the White House, the Surgeon General, the CDC,the FBI, and CISA—likely coerced or significantly encouraged social-media
platforms to moderate content, rendering those decisions state actions.20 In doing so, the officials likely violated the First Amendment

 

and

 

 we do not take our decision today
lightly. But, the Supreme Court has rarely been faced with a coordinated campaign of this magnitude orchestrated by federal officials that jeopardized a fundamental aspect of American life. Therefore, the district court was
correct in its assessment—“unrelenting pressure” from certain government officials likely “had the intended result of suppressing millions of protected free speech postings by American citizens.” We see no error or abuse of
discretion in that finding...

 

And then gave them the green light to carry on regardless !!!

This appellate ruling comes from the 5th circuit, a court that is too far to the right even for the current Supreme Court

 

Again and again, U.S. Supreme Court slaps down 5th Circuit

If the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was a boxer, you’d bet on the other guy.

The 5th Circuit, which hears appeals from Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi, had three rulings upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, and eight overturned, more than any other court this term. The conservative circuit court saw its rulings on abortion medication, gun control, administrative power and social media moderation all rejected by the Supreme Court.

https://lailluminator.com/2024/07/07/5th-circuit/

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4 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

The truth is always funny to those absorbed with fake news.

Amazing to me how the Trump fans listen to him lie daily but always have a fake excuse for his weird and dangerous behavior.  How could anyone listen to him tell the world how great he is everyday at solving issues and how terrible everyone is that opposes him. 
We now have the Democratic Party, the Republican Party the Trump Cult Party. 
Most descent Republicans and people don’t want anything to do with the orange one who brags he can stop wars instantly and Putin is afraid of him.  How dim do you have to be to believe in a man that has never truly accomplished anything for anyone other than hinself.
 

No question exists he is  a weak bully with a treasonous tongue, lacks character and integrity and dresses like an orange face combined with a blonde pullover mess on his head. Did some of you ever want to grow up and wear weird clothes while shouting Go Trump Go and Fight Fight Fight.  Weird just weird. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 all of his and your actions are weird to normal people. 

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4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

social media moderation all rejected by the Supreme Court.

 

In this case the supreme court agreed with the 5th circuit that 1st amendment violations where likely committed  as seen in my quotes above...they however dismissed the case  because the plaintiffs  could not show "standing"  which I believe means they could not show smoking gun evidence that they themself where personally targeted ( in other words the court dropped the hot potato using a "technicality" to kick a judgment down the road) ....however the recent letter from a certain Mr Zuckerberg might change that "standing"  ???  and I believe other cases are in motion.

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2 minutes ago, johng said:

 

In this case the supreme court agreed with the 5th circuit that 1st amendment violations where likely committed  as seen in my quotes above...they however dismissed the case  because the plaintiffs  could not show "standing"  which I believe means they could not show smoking gun evidence that they themself where personally targeted ( in other words the court dropped the hot potato using a "technicality" to kick a judgment down the road) ....however the recent letter from a certain Mr Zuckerberg might change that "standing"  ???  and I believe other cases are in motion.

You sure about that?

In today’s 6–3 decision, the Court held that the plaintiffs failed to demonstrate that they had suffered or likely would suffer harm as a result of the federal government’s communications with social-media platforms. It also ruled any such alleged harm would not be solved by the injunction sought by the plaintiffs. Writing for the majority, Justice Amy Coney Barrett noted that the record in this case indicated that platforms regularly consulted with a variety of outside experts, including federal Executive-Branch officials, about content-moderation decisions, and that platforms “continued to exercise their independent judgment” even after those conversations.

https://www.freepress.net/news/press-releases/supreme-court-ruling-murthy-missouri-affirms-first-amendment

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2 hours ago, candide said:

Another way to say you have nothing.

Really ?

what other country can say they have a Bill of Rights ....

#1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There's 9 more where this came from 

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1 hour ago, johng said:

 

In this case the supreme court agreed with the 5th circuit that 1st amendment violations where likely committed  as seen in my quotes above...they however dismissed the case  because the plaintiffs  could not show "standing"  which I believe means they could not show smoking gun evidence that they themself where personally targeted ( in other words the court dropped the hot potato using a "technicality" to kick a judgment down the road) ....however the recent letter from a certain Mr Zuckerberg might change that "standing"  ???  and I believe other cases are in motion.

Thankfully zuckerberg  opened the can of worms so to speak!

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25 minutes ago, Luuk Chaai said:

Really ?

what other country can say they have a Bill of Rights ....

#1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There's 9 more where this came from 

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Trumps fighting for American liberties!


While the left trys lawfare tactics to deny us his representation, it reminds me of our founding fathers plight against tyrants, they could of been hanged if captured!

 

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2 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

Really ?

what other country can say they have a Bill of Rights ....

#1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There's 9 more where this came from 

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Probably easier to list the countries which don't have a Bill of Rights

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