5 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yes there is - you obviously have no idea how Constitutional Law works. The 2022 challenge resulted in the ruling that there is no provision for any particular Health services in the USA Constitution.  In order to change that back, it would require a legal issue that challenges that interpretation of the Constitution. Do you know that Dobbs was a Govt employee that refused to allow an abortion under that State's Laws and was taken to Court by the Planned Parenthood abortionists - it sure did not turn out the way they wanted. The SCOTUS ruled that it was a State right to control Health issues, as per the Constitution. 

 

Everyone got 2016 wrong - a bookie in UK paid out before the election date. This time around they have learned not to read the tea leaves with such 'certainty' which also means Trump is actually well in front. A lot of people voted for Hillary as a means of supporting her to win, because they thought it was a 'good bet' - they have also learned their lesson too.

 

What is irrelevent to some is value to another - Pigs and Pearls - One man's meat........ etc etc etc..

 

So much falsehood packed into so little space. Let's start with your original claim:

 

"But the truth is that the intelligent females on both sides know the POTUS cannot change the SCOTUS decision, and that it can only be overturned if it is challenged under the Constitution, and that all the SCOTUS did was to return the issue to the States where it belongs because it is a Health issue, not a 'rights' issue. But the stupid ones? They are voting Harris anyway."

 

Actually Potus, acting in concert with Congress can sign into law legislation that aligns with the provisions of Roe. In effect, that would overturn the consequnences of the Supreme court ruling.   Potus can also veto such legislation. So who wins the Presidency is obviously relevant. And of course, the fact is that under the Biden administration mifeprestone has been approved by the FDA to be prescribed and sent by mail without a woman actually seeing a physician. A Trump appointee could change that. Intelligent women and men know that. 

 

And if the next President gets the opportunity to appoint 2 news justices and that person is Kamala Harris, does it seem unlikely to you that they wouldn't vote to reinstate Roe. And if Trump gets to be President, isn't it likely that the opposite would be the case.  And yet, you claim that it's unimportant which candidate wins the Presidency. 

 

And your comment that  "A lot of people voted for Hillary as a means of supporting her to win, because they thought it was a 'good bet' - they have also learned their lesson too." is simply bizarre. What kind of evidence do you have to support such a weird claim?

 

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

So much falsehood packed into so little space. Let's start with your original claim:

 

"But the truth is that the intelligent females on both sides know the POTUS cannot change the SCOTUS decision, and that it can only be overturned if it is challenged under the Constitution, and that all the SCOTUS did was to return the issue to the States where it belongs because it is a Health issue, not a 'rights' issue. But the stupid ones? They are voting Harris anyway."

 

Actually Potus, acting in concert with Congress can sign into law legislation that aligns with the provisions of Roe. In effect, that would overturn the consequnences of the Supreme court ruling.   Potus can also veto such legislation. So who wins the Presidency is obviously relevant. And of course, the fact is that under the Biden administration mifeprestone has been approved by the FDA to be prescribed and sent by mail without a woman actually seeing a physician. A Trump appointee could change that. Intelligent women and men know that. 

 

And if the next President gets the opportunity to appoint 2 news justices and that person is Kamala Harris, does it seem unlikely to you that they wouldn't vote to reinstate Roe. And if Trump gets to be President, isn't it likely that the opposite would be the case.  And yet, you claim that it's unimportant which candidate wins the Presidency. 

 

And your comment that  "A lot of people voted for Hillary as a means of supporting her to win, because they thought it was a 'good bet' - they have also learned their lesson too." is simply bizarre. What kind of evidence do you have to support such a weird claim?

 

Wow - you remind me of Kamala - that was one big word salad. I am sure you believe it - but it aint right - none of it.

And no I am not going to 'prove' my opinion with a Harvard sanctioned research study - they are too busy planning protests after Trump wins.

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1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Wow - you remind me of Kamala - that was one big word salad. I am sure you believe it - but it aint right - none of it.

And no I am not going to 'prove' my opinion with a Harvard sanctioned research study - they are too busy planning protests after Trump wins.

In other words, you've got nothing.

14 hours ago, placeholder said:

In other words, you've got nothing.

Nothing that you would understand or be able to accept with your cognitive bias.

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Nothing that you would understand or be able to accept with your cognitive bias.

Great.

 

Explain your position in English.

57 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Nothing that you would understand or be able to accept with your cognitive bias.

I challenged your assertions with statements of fact. Instead of specifically challenging those statements of fact, you just resorted to insults. 

 

I pointed out that according to the Constitution, presidents nominate supreme Court Justices. So if two vacancies occur president Harris would most likely  nominate justices who would over turn the Dobbs decision. If Trump  wins, most likely he would nominate justices who support the Dobbs decision. You have offers no refutation of this point at all. 

 

I also pointed out that Congress could enact act a law that aligns with Roe nationwide. 

It's likely that President Harris would sign that bill into law. And it's likely that President Trump would veto it. 

Once again, you will for no reputation of that point.

So, despite your claim that it doesn't matter who is president as far as abortion irights are concerned, you are, in fact, dead wrong.

On 10/15/2024 at 11:53 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

And still no proof he said it - and where that was and when it was. But I think he will certainly halve it and quickly within his term as POTUS, from the peak level it was under Biden-Harris.  BY the way what was that peak level for gas in USA under Biden-Harris?

 

Yes we all have our retarded cousins we dont associate with. Like those demonstrators for Gaza, and all those radical Trans nutters, and all Pink/Blue haired nutters, and other very 'undesirable' people, who will be voting for Harris.  I think that they will cancel each other out and thus the real/normal People will decide who becomes POTUS.  

  

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/14/two-thirds-of-economists-think-inflation-would-be-worse-under-trump-than-harris-poll-finds/

https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch/post/DBNZAn-gARQ?xmt=AQGzSDQPFbwLnayONAbMN-6aPzSMQO6UHgDRhMGYCM-aIg

 

Apparently, these people don't love Trump.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/LeB3Jx6D9PS913ow/

I also love Trump because he will end the war in Ukraine. Zelensky has just give a madness speech, saying that the only way to beat Russia was to give Ukraine full NATO membership and to allow them to launch long range missiles deep into Russia. This tin-pot madman is prepared to start WW3 in order to enslave Eastern Ukraine.  It is not so obvious what Trump will do when POTUS, but he will de-escalate and then end the war in Ukraine. Most people in EU have had enough of this fake war and so has those in USA who are sick of funding it.  The war was started by a dictator who saw no alternative to what was happening in Ukraine. If Trump was POTUS at the time IMO it would never have started.  This territorial dispute could lead to WW3 if both the dictator and the tin-pot madman are not put in their places - and Trump is the man to do it. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0z8gg5v14o

 

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I also love Trump because he will end the war in Ukraine. Zelensky has just give a madness speech, saying that the only way to beat Russia was to give Ukraine full NATO membership and to allow them to launch long range missiles deep into Russia. This tin-pot madman is prepared to start WW3 in order to enslave Eastern Ukraine.  It is not so obvious what Trump will do when POTUS, but he will de-escalate and then end the war in Ukraine. Most people in EU have had enough of this fake war and so has those in USA who are sick of funding it.  The war was started by a dictator who saw no alternative to what was happening in Ukraine. If Trump was POTUS at the time IMO it would never have started.  This territorial dispute could lead to WW3 if both the dictator and the tin-pot madman are not put in their places - and Trump is the man to do it. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0z8gg5v14o

 

Sure. The war would never have started because Trump would....do what exactly? Given that he wants to absolutely retreat from foreign engagements, what would he have done to discourage Putin? Return his friendship ring?

17 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/LeB3Jx6D9PS913ow/

 

On 10/17/2024 at 4:19 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I also love Trump because he will end the war in Ukraine. Zelensky has just give a madness speech, saying that the only way to beat Russia was to give Ukraine full NATO membership and to allow them to launch long range missiles deep into Russia. This tin-pot madman is prepared to start WW3 in order to enslave Eastern Ukraine.  It is not so obvious what Trump will do when POTUS, but he will de-escalate and then end the war in Ukraine. Most people in EU have had enough of this fake war and so has those in USA who are sick of funding it.  The war was started by a dictator who saw no alternative to what was happening in Ukraine. If Trump was POTUS at the time IMO it would never have started.  This territorial dispute could lead to WW3 if both the dictator and the tin-pot madman are not put in their places - and Trump is the man to do it. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0z8gg5v14o

 

Wow... Trump promised in 2016 that he would end the conflict in the Middle East (Israel) once and for ever. He only pissed off the Palestinians by recognizing Jerusalem as the capital and moving US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. He proposed a plan, which was absurd and impossible to implement and achieved nothing. And Trump is an admirer of Putin and would & could have done nothing to prevent the Ukr war.
Trump is only bragging and bragging.
And his economic plans will cause more inflation
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/donald-trump-s-economic-plans-would-worsen-inflation-economist/ar-AA1skQwC

On 10/16/2024 at 9:41 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Nothing that you would understand or be able to accept with your cognitive bias.

Trump told the crowd on Jan 6, 2021: "Walk to the Capitol, fight like hell, I will walk with you". Next Trump went home safely, the crowd went to the Capitol, 5 people died. This makes Trump guilty of murder and he is a coward and liar.
Are you proud to vote for a coward and liar?

9 minutes ago, Steven55 said:

Trump told the crowd on Jan 6, 2021: "Walk to the Capitol, fight like hell, I will walk with you". Next Trump went home safely, the crowd went to the Capitol, 5 people died. This makes Trump guilty of murder and he is a coward and liar.
Are you proud to vote for a coward and liar?

you missed out 'peacefully and patriotically', everyone seems to do that. cant understand why!

1 hour ago, Steven55 said:

Trump told the crowd on Jan 6, 2021: "Walk to the Capitol, fight like hell, I will walk with you". Next Trump went home safely, the crowd went to the Capitol, 5 people died. This makes Trump guilty of murder and he is a coward and liar.
Are you proud to vote for a coward and liar?

Truly delusional and again proves that most lefties do not understand reality, and are not able to accept the truth with your cognitive bias.   Was that distortion/lie about Trump a CNN headline?? MSNBC ? ABC? NPR? The Guardian? Al Jazeera? etc etc etc.

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

you missed out 'peacefully and patriotically', everyone seems to do that. cant understand why!

Exactly.  And the reason is mental impairment through cognitive bias. They WANT to believe it - so they do. Just like when Trump was accused of saying white nationalist Nazis were good people in Charlottesville - a total lie that to this day some delusional woke liberals still think is true - because they want it to be true. 

11 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Exactly.  And the reason is mental impairment through cognitive bias. They WANT to believe it - so they do. Just like when Trump was accused of saying white nationalist Nazis were good people in Charlottesville - a total lie that to this day some delusional woke liberals still think is true - because they want it to be true. 

both Biden and Harris still repeat it when attacking Trump, but they are never fact checked when they do.

On 10/17/2024 at 4:19 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

I also love Trump because he will end the war in Ukraine. Zelensky has just give a madness speech, saying that the only way to beat Russia was to give Ukraine full NATO membership and to allow them to launch long range missiles deep into Russia. This tin-pot madman is prepared to start WW3 in order to enslave Eastern Ukraine.  It is not so obvious what Trump will do when POTUS, but he will de-escalate and then end the war in Ukraine. Most people in EU have had enough of this fake war and so has those in USA who are sick of funding it.  The war was started by a dictator who saw no alternative to what was happening in Ukraine. If Trump was POTUS at the time IMO it would never have started.  This territorial dispute could lead to WW3 if both the dictator and the tin-pot madman are not put in their places - and Trump is the man to do it. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0z8gg5v14o

 

Most leftest here love the EU!

When Trump comes back its American’s first !That war gets ended

before he’s inaugurated. 

2 hours ago, Steven55 said:

Wow... Trump promised in 2016 that he would end the conflict in the Middle East (Israel) once and for ever. He only pissed off the Palestinians by recognizing Jerusalem as the capital and moving US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. He proposed a plan, which was absurd and impossible to implement and achieved nothing. And Trump is an admirer of Putin and would & could have done nothing to prevent the Ukr war.
Trump is only bragging and bragging.
And his economic plans will cause more inflation
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/donald-trump-s-economic-plans-would-worsen-inflation-economist/ar-AA1skQwC

pretty sure the ME went quiet for a good while under Trump and the Abraham accords.

1 minute ago, riclag said:

Most leftest here love the EU!

When Trump comes back its American’s first !That war gets ended 

before he’s inaugurated. 

Yes indeed - many things will happen between 5 November and 20 January - The Trump Effect.  The EU will be scrambling to save their relevance and existence within the USA economic and political 'umbrella', and NATO will be also desperately trying to save their own backsides.  A major issue of whether they will succeed and not have Trump pull out, will be their moves to end the Ukraine war, that no one wants to continue (aside from Zelensky and his cohorts).  Zelensky aligned himself with the Democrats and all their supporters (especially media and celebrities) - he will now have to 'pay the piper' and he will be driven out of town and off the world stage.

 

And this time around, anyone that uses that 442 days to undermine the Trump's Presidency before he even gets into Office, will be investigated, charged and tried. Trump and his Team have already spread the word to informers - if you see/hear of anyone doing anything to damage Trump's Presidency, keep the evidence and give it to us when we arrive. This time around Trump is prepared and has an Administration already in place - and part of that Team will be those tasked with cleaning out all the 'redbacks' and taking action against anyone that undermined the Trump Presidency.  Last time, Trump was unprepared on this and many other issues, but now he knows what to do and who to trust - the last 4 years were not wasted. 

2 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yes indeed - many things will happen between 5 November and 20 January - The Trump Effect.  The EU will be scrambling to save their relevance and existence within the USA economic and political 'umbrella', and NATO will be also desperately trying to save their own backsides.  A major issue of whether they will succeed and not have Trump pull out, will be their moves to end the Ukraine war, that no one wants to continue (aside from Zelensky and his cohorts).  Zelensky aligned himself with the Democrats and all their supporters (especially media and celebrities) - he will now have to 'pay the piper' and he will be driven out of town and off the world stage.

 

And this time around, anyone that uses that 442 days to undermine the Trump's Presidency before he even gets into Office, will be investigated, charged and tried. Trump and his Team have already spread the word to informers - if you see/hear of anyone doing anything to damage Trump's Presidency, keep the evidence and give it to us when we arrive. This time around Trump is prepared and has an Administration already in place - and part of that Team will be those tasked with cleaning out all the 'redbacks' and taking action against anyone that undermined the Trump Presidency.  Last time, Trump was unprepared on this and many other issues, but now he knows what to do and who to trust - the last 4 years were not wasted. 

Wow: Quote: ". Trump and his Team have already spread the word to informers - if you see/hear of anyone doing anything to damage Trump's Presidency, keep the evidence and give it to us when we arrive... will be investigated, charged and tried". So, it means NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH under Trump. When I say that Trump is incompetent (I bet not 1 company in the S&P500 would want him as CEO, ha ha!), I am damaging Trump, so I will be prosecuted (which law will be applicable?). Newspapers will be shut down under Trump when they criticize his stupid economic plans, which will increase inflation?

8 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yes indeed - many things will happen between 5 November and 20 January - The Trump Effect.  The EU will be scrambling to save their relevance and existence within the USA economic and political 'umbrella', and NATO will be also desperately trying to save their own backsides.  A major issue of whether they will succeed and not have Trump pull out, will be their moves to end the Ukraine war, that no one wants to continue (aside from Zelensky and his cohorts).  Zelensky aligned himself with the Democrats and all their supporters (especially media and celebrities) - he will now have to 'pay the piper' and he will be driven out of town and off the world stage.

 

And this time around, anyone that uses that 442 days to undermine the Trump's Presidency before he even gets into Office, will be investigated, charged and tried. Trump and his Team have already spread the word to informers - if you see/hear of anyone doing anything to damage Trump's Presidency, keep the evidence and give it to us when we arrive. This time around Trump is prepared and has an Administration already in place - and part of that Team will be those tasked with cleaning out all the 'redbacks' and taking action against anyone that undermined the Trump Presidency.  Last time, Trump was unprepared on this and many other issues, but now he knows what to do and who to trust - the last 4 years were not wasted. 

In other words, he will trample on the Constitution and create a police state. 

10 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yes indeed - many things will happen between 5 November and 20 January - The Trump Effect.  The EU will be scrambling to save their relevance and existence within the USA economic and political 'umbrella', and NATO will be also desperately trying to save their own backsides.  A major issue of whether they will succeed and not have Trump pull out, will be their moves to end the Ukraine war, that no one wants to continue (aside from Zelensky and his cohorts).  Zelensky aligned himself with the Democrats and all their supporters (especially media and celebrities) - he will now have to 'pay the piper' and he will be driven out of town and off the world stage.

 

And this time around, anyone that uses that 442 days to undermine the Trump's Presidency before he even gets into Office, will be investigated, charged and tried. Trump and his Team have already spread the word to informers - if you see/hear of anyone doing anything to damage Trump's Presidency, keep the evidence and give it to us when we arrive. This time around Trump is prepared and has an Administration already in place - and part of that Team will be those tasked with cleaning out all the 'redbacks' and taking action against anyone that undermined the Trump Presidency.  Last time, Trump was unprepared on this and many other issues, but now he knows what to do and who to trust - the last 4 years were not wasted. 

Just like so many Republicans you are ignorant, Trump cannot withdraw from Nato:
"National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024, enacted on December 22, 2023, prohibits the President from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO without approval of a two-third Senate super-majority or an act of Congress."
You are ignorant regarding the consequences of the economic plans of Trump etc etc

2 minutes ago, Steven55 said:

Wow: Quote: ". Trump and his Team have already spread the word to informers - if you see/hear of anyone doing anything to damage Trump's Presidency, keep the evidence and give it to us when we arrive... will be investigated, charged and tried". So, it means NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH under Trump. When I say that Trump is incompetent (I bet not 1 company in the S&P500 would want him as CEO, ha ha!), I am damaging Trump, so I will be prosecuted (which law will be applicable?). Newspapers will be shut down under Trump when they criticize his stupid economic plans, which will increase inflation?

What makes your comment particularly nuts is that William Barr and John Durham did their best to go after the alleged perpetrators. This was after the Inspector General of the Justice Dept found no evidence of any plotting to go after Trump. Barr and Durham publicly disagreed with that finding. Barr even traveled with Durham to Italy to try and gather evidence. Ultimately they came up empty-handed everywhere. The only conviction Durham got was for a minor crime by a low-level lawyer and in that instance the case was based on evidence was provided by the Inspector General.

3 minutes ago, Steven55 said:

Just like so many Republicans you are ignorant, Trump cannot withdraw from Nato:
"National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024, enacted on December 22, 2023, prohibits the President from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO without approval of a two-third Senate super-majority or an act of Congress."
You are ignorant regarding the consequences of the economic plans of Trump etc etc

One thing that has been noted is that Senators and member of Congress who oppose Trump's stance on Russia and the Ukraine, don't seem to have paid a political price for it. 

14 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yes indeed - many things will happen between 5 November and 20 January - The Trump Effect.  The EU will be scrambling to save their relevance and existence within the USA economic and political 'umbrella', and NATO will be also desperately trying to save their own backsides.  A major issue of whether they will succeed and not have Trump pull out, will be their moves to end the Ukraine war, that no one wants to continue (aside from Zelensky and his cohorts).  Zelensky aligned himself with the Democrats and all their supporters (especially media and celebrities) - he will now have to 'pay the piper' and he will be driven out of town and off the world stage.

 

And this time around, anyone that uses that 442 days to undermine the Trump's Presidency before he even gets into Office, will be investigated, charged and tried. Trump and his Team have already spread the word to informers - if you see/hear of anyone doing anything to damage Trump's Presidency, keep the evidence and give it to us when we arrive. This time around Trump is prepared and has an Administration already in place - and part of that Team will be those tasked with cleaning out all the 'redbacks' and taking action against anyone that undermined the Trump Presidency.  Last time, Trump was unprepared on this and many other issues, but now he knows what to do and who to trust - the last 4 years were not wasted. 

Hard to believe that you are so blind folded, biased and st..p.d.
Your quote: "the Ukraine war, that no one wants to continue (aside from Zelensky and his cohorts). " This is THE most st.p.d statement ever: Zelensky doesn;t want war, he wants it to end asap. PUTIN wants war, he wants all Ukr. You are a bizarre id..t.
There should be a IQ test before anyone should be allowed to vote.... 40-60% of the Reps would fail

25 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yes indeed - many things will happen between 5 November and 20 January - The Trump Effect.  The EU will be scrambling to save their relevance and existence within the USA economic and political 'umbrella', and NATO will be also desperately trying to save their own backsides.  A major issue of whether they will succeed and not have Trump pull out, will be their moves to end the Ukraine war, that no one wants to continue (aside from Zelensky and his cohorts).  Zelensky aligned himself with the Democrats and all their supporters (especially media and celebrities) - he will now have to 'pay the piper' and he will be driven out of town and off the world stage.

 

And this time around, anyone that uses that 442 days to undermine the Trump's Presidency before he even gets into Office, will be investigated, charged and tried. Trump and his Team have already spread the word to informers - if you see/hear of anyone doing anything to damage Trump's Presidency, keep the evidence and give it to us when we arrive. This time around Trump is prepared and has an Administration already in place - and part of that Team will be those tasked with cleaning out all the 'redbacks' and taking action against anyone that undermined the Trump Presidency.  Last time, Trump was unprepared on this and many other issues, but now he knows what to do and who to trust - the last 4 years were not wasted. 

Trump is vulnerable regarding blackmail by Russia: sex tapes!
https://www.salon.com/2019/12/10/alleged-pee-tape-incident-wasnt-the-only-trump-sex-party-in-russia-probed-by-steele_partner/

3 minutes ago, Steven55 said:

Just like so many Republicans you are ignorant, Trump cannot withdraw from Nato:
"National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024, enacted on December 22, 2023, prohibits the President from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO without approval of a two-third Senate super-majority or an act of Congress."
You are ignorant regarding the consequences of the economic plans of Trump etc etc

That rule was made on December 2023 - under the President of Joe Biden - I wonder why???

No mate - it is you who are ignorant as per your own words.

Trump will EO to remove the basis of that Act - and it will go to SCOTUS.

Forcing a following President to follow your political desires with regards to Defence Policies is unconstitutional.

The GOP will support the POTUS and overturn that Act section that removes that nonsense condition.

 

Obviously you think like the Dem Party that it is OK to subvert the Constitution to enable your own political views.

Obviously you also agreed to weaponise the DOJ, FBI and the Courts to attack/defame a political opponent.

Trump is going to tear it down - the corrupted rein of your Democrat Party is going to be destroyed.

 

Get yourself ready - and if your lot storm the streets again - The National Guard will be employed this time.

If Antifa raises its ugly illegal head again, they will be arrested and given a military trial.

I am certain you lot will claim 'human rights and Trump is a nazi' - but he and we dont care anymore.

 

Does your ignorance extend to the fact that Zelensky has enacted a state of martial law over the whole of Ukraine and abolished the elections?? He is permanently in charge while the war continues with Russia. Are you ignorant of the fact that this was how Hitler took his first step when taking over Germany??