September 18, 20241 yr Popular Post Picture courtesy: Thai Rath Former Army Chief Apirat Kongsompong is widely speculated to head a new neo-conservative party expected to emerge soon and possibly contest the upcoming general election. This party, still unnamed, is believed to be forming with the aim of recruiting prominent retirees from high-ranking government positions over the past few years. The speculated members of this potential political force include former police chief Chakthip Chaijinda, former undersecretary for interior Chatchai Promlert, as well as Apirat himself. These individuals share close personal and professional ties with former coup leader and Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, who now leads the Ruam Thai Sang Chart party. Today, Suriyasai Takasila, Dean of Rangsit University’s College of Social Innovation, commented on the neo-conservative group. He explained that this party is mainly targeting support from government personnel, both active and retired, who may oppose the reformist People’s Party. The neo-conservative camp aims to secure a solid base amongst governmental figures and older citizens who are less inclined to support the progressive reforms championed by the increasingly popular People’s Party, noted for their appeal to younger voters, reported Thai Newsroom. In recent elections, parties like the ultra-conservative Palang Pracharath, Ruam Thai Sang Chart, and the populist Pheu Thai have struggled to compete with the People’s Party's growing influence. Suriyasai, a former activist against ex-Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, now a de facto leader of Pheu Thai, emphasised the structural gap these current parties face in combating the rising youth-driven politics. As the political landscape continues to evolve, the introduction of a new neo-conservative outfit spearheaded by notable figures like Apirat Kongsompong could mark a significant shift in the forthcoming elections, potentially reconfiguring longstanding alliances and voter bases in Thailand. -- 2024-09-19
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post nice red-rimmed t shirt. I have a feeling that Apirat will have the full backing of the institution. The next election could be fun and games with this guy entering the fray
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post This guy is dangerous and certainly not someone anyone would want to have in government!
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post 2 hours ago, webfact said: In recent elections, parties like the ultra-conservative Palang Pracharath, Ruam Thai Sang Chart, and the populist Pheu Thai have struggled to compete with the People’s Party's growing influence. Yep. Struggled might not be the correct verb but this bunch of ultra royalists military idiots stand only one chance of gaining power and that's through the corruption of the system or a coup.
September 19, 20241 yr Never a dull moment in Thailand - politics, corruption, sexcapades ... What more could one want?
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, nikmar said: nice red-rimmed t shirt. I have a feeling that Apirat will have the full backing of the institution. The next election could be fun and games with this guy entering the fray This party likely to poach votes from PPRP and serve as counter balance to PT Everyone knows who Apirat reports to Seems savvy not to put all his eggs in one basket
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post 39 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Yep. Struggled might not be the correct verb but this bunch of ultra royalists military idiots stand only one chance of gaining power and that's through the corruption of the system or a coup. A % of the electorate are hardcore ultra royalist/military voters. Though they will never form the majority, their numbers aren’t insignificant.
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, nikmar said: I have a feeling that Apirat will have the full backing of the institution. Absolutely, nail on the head.
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, ChrisY1 said: This guy is dangerous and certainly not someone anyone would want to have in government! Oh I think there is someone who wants him in government.
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post 21 minutes ago, Hunz Kittisak said: A % of the electorate are hardcore ultra royalist/military voters. Though they will never form the majority, their numbers aren’t insignificant. Their numbers are absolutely no where near that of the numbers that want a progressive government. What they have is power and connections. They are by far the minority. The "establishment".
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post The military aligned will do anything to keep in power and the hugely-corrupt monetary gains that go with those positions.
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post One of wifeys relatives is a staunch supporter of this man, his politics and any other extreme monarchist group for that matter. Every weekend they either go to Bangkok to protest against PT or the PP or off to a far right retreat to learn how they are the only people who can save the Thai people from themselves. It is genuinely scarey how people get indoctrinated by this cult of a select privileged elite whose sole aim is to trample the rights of the overwhelming majority.
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post 3 hours ago, nikmar said: Apirat will have the full backing of the institution. I still don't understand why the 'Institution' is so scared of a government that wants to move forward..........🤐 it only makes the people dislike the 'institution' even more than they already do. It makes no sense to me.
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post 1 minute ago, brianthainess said: I still don't understand why the 'Institution' is so scared of a government that wants to move forward..........🤐 Because 'moving forward' can happen only with fundamental reform of all related institutions, something the affected parties cannot contemplate. It will happen one day at a time in the future unknown, when the stress becomes more than The System can contain. It's likely to be very violent.
September 19, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, mfd101 said: Because 'moving forward' can happen only with fundamental reform of all related institutions, something the affected parties cannot contemplate. It will happen one day at a time in the future unknown, when the stress becomes more than The System can contain. It's likely to be very violent. The UK has no LM laws, but the majority still love the 'Institution' what it receives in money from the government is still not publicly known. Sorry I can't say anymore.
September 19, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: Their numbers are absolutely no where near that of the numbers that want a progressive government. What they have is power and connections. They are by far the minority. The "establishment". Unless some party gets a landslide next elections like Thaksin used to do else its countless parties coalition government again and that’s when parties like these hold the key swing votes.
September 19, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, brianthainess said: I still don't understand why the 'Institution' is so scared of a government that wants to move forward..........🤐 it only makes the people dislike the 'institution' even more than they already do. It makes no sense to me. When they talked about reform to the military and less military spending then the yellow hackles were raised there. I agree with mr mfd101 - it will happen but not without great knashing of teeth. My son's generation will be eligble to vote in the next election. The vast majority are PP so there will be a bit of friction i think.
September 19, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, brianthainess said: I still don't understand why the 'Institution' is so scared of a government that wants to move forward..........🤐 it only makes the people dislike the 'institution' even more than they already do. It makes no sense to me. Maybe some people longed for a throwback to the good old days. Countries like Saudi, Brunei and Oman are thriving too aren’t they not? Democracy is overrated
September 19, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, nikmar said: When they talked about reform to the military and less military spending then the yellow hackles were raised there. I agree with mr mfd101 - it will happen but not without great knashing of teeth. My son's generation will be eligble to vote in the next election. The vast majority are PP so there will be a bit of friction i think. With all the obstacles in place parties like PP will never win an overwhelming majority. Most importantly parties like PP do not hold the guns. When push comes to shove the guns always win out. 13 successful coups in a century is testament to that.
September 19, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, nikmar said: When they talked about reform to the military and less military spending then the yellow hackles were raised there. I agree with mr mfd101 - it will happen but not without great knashing of teeth. My son's generation will be eligble to vote in the next election. The vast majority are PP so there will be a bit of friction i think. Love or hate Thaksin it was him that reduced military spending, and IMO one of the main reasons to get rid of him. But now he is back.
September 19, 20241 yr Popular Post 5 minutes ago, Hunz Kittisak said: Maybe some people longed for a throwback to the good old days. Countries like Saudi, Brunei and Oman are thriving too aren’t they not? Democracy is overrated Many many very poor people in those countries would disagree with you.
September 19, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Hunz Kittisak said: Maybe some people longed for a throwback to the good old days. Countries like Saudi, Brunei and Oman are thriving too aren’t they not? Democracy is overrated Thriving for a tiny rich elite who hold power by way of draconian law enforcement.....ring any bells?
September 19, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, brianthainess said: Many many very poor people in those countries would disagree with you. Well they are peasants who should know their place. Damn Thaksin for changing the political landscape by giving these folks a voice and helping them realise their vote counts too
September 19, 20241 yr 41 minutes ago, mfd101 said: Because 'moving forward' can happen only with fundamental reform of all related institutions, something the affected parties cannot contemplate. It will happen one day at a time in the future unknown, when the stress becomes more than The System can contain. It's likely to be very violent. If there is reform, then there is a loss of 'revenue' to many in the 'Current System" hence they are fighting to retain access to revenue.
September 19, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, brianthainess said: The UK has no LM laws, but the majority still love the 'Institution' what it receives in money from the government is still not publicly known. Sorry I can't say anymore. The UK spent almost 200 years reforming itself and generally getting its act together. And - as my remark above suggests - there's more than one institution at stake.
September 19, 20241 yr 32 minutes ago, MarkBR said: If there is reform, then there is a loss of 'revenue' to many in the 'Current System" hence they are fighting to retain access to revenue. Yes but it's more than that. It's about how you structure your society (eg hierarchy & how you organize it) and the general concepts of morality that go with that (eg equality of all vs hierarchy of status & power).
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