Trump vs. Taylor Swift: A Battle He’s Bound to Lose

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't think so, and I don't think your friend with over 100 sexual partners is typical.

 

"Married men and women are remarkably similar in their levels of sexual activity before marriage, with 1 in 5 reporting only one lifetime sex partner (20% of men, 19% of women), about 1 in 3 reporting 2 to 4 sex partners (35% of men, 33% of women), about 1 in 4 reporting 5 to 9 sex partners (23% of men, 25% of women), and the remaining 1 in 5 reporting 10 or more sex partners (22% of men, and 23% of women)."

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-report-finds-link-between-strong-marriages-and-sexual-restraint-during-the-dating-years-301802184.html#:~:text=Married men and women are,%2C 25% of women)%2C

 

So whilst there are women who do opt to have more than 10 partners, they are a  very small minority, roughly 80% of men and women have less than 10 partners before marriage.

 

Interestingly the same report also found:

 

"Married men and women who have only had sex with their spouse have a nearly 45% chance of reporting a very high level of relationship stability in their marriage, compared to only 25% of married individuals with 5-9 lifetime sexual partners and only 14% of married individuals with 10 or more lifetime sexual partners.

 

In analyzing the overall trendline, for every additional lifetime sexual partner reported, the probability of the individual being highly satisfied with their marriage decreased by almost 4%, the probability of their marriage being highly stable decreased by 6.5% and the probability of their marriage containing high levels of sexual satisfaction decreased by 4% in comparison to individuals who have only had sex with their spouse.

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-report-finds-link-between-strong-marriages-and-sexual-restraint-during-the-dating-years-301802184.html#:~:text=Married men and women are,%2C 25% of women)%2C

 

So yes, while there undoubtedly are women with 100, even 600 male sexual partners in the case of one Australian famously, the very vast majority of men and women, 80 percent do not go down this route.

 

Indeed, the more sexual partners, the less relationship satisfaction and stability can be predicted.

 

Maybe that's why Taylor Swift feels so bad about her own promiscuity, rather than moral concerns, she can feel her own dissatisfaction with her own life.

 

Can we see your evidence that each and all of Taylor Swift’s relationships was sexual?

 

If you put as much effort into that as you do into your slurs and innuendo you might start building a factual basis for your claims.

 

I say might. 

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Glamour just reported on Swift's interview with Ellen De Generes, so it's on video, Swift herself lamenting her own behaviour.

 

""This makes me feel so bad about myself. Every time I come up here you put a different dude up on the screen. It just makes me really question what I stand for as a human being. There's never been two guys on the screen two visits in a row. It's sad."

 

https://www.glamour.com/story/do-you-think-you-have-too-many

 

So Taylor Swift basically agrees with me, her promiscuous behaviour is sad and a real problem. It certainly makes her feel bad about herself.

From your link.

"She's joking around, of course, and I don't think she has anything to be worried about. For one, as a celebrity she does get linked to a lot of guys she probably had no real relationship with, and for two, can you date too many gorgeous men in your life? Methinks no."

[Will B Good]

28 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Maybe that's why Taylor Swift feels so bad about her own promiscuity, rather than moral concerns, she can feel her own dissatisfaction with her own life.

 

No the main reason she might feel bad is because of people like you who attempt to suppress women, diminish them and denigrate them.

[Cameroni]

19 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

No the main reason she might feel bad is because of people like you who attempt to suppress women, diminish them and denigrate them.

I don't denigrate women at all. I'm saying those women who choose to have more than 10 sexual partners are a minority, and if Swift had 12 she doesn't make good decisions. 

 

It's not a likeable trait in a woman, sleeping around, but I'm not saying all women do that, 80 percent don't. 

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't think so, and I don't think your friend with over 100 sexual partners is typical.

 

"Married men and women are remarkably similar in their levels of sexual activity before marriage, with 1 in 5 reporting only one lifetime sex partner (20% of men, 19% of women), about 1 in 3 reporting 2 to 4 sex partners (35% of men, 33% of women), about 1 in 4 reporting 5 to 9 sex partners (23% of men, 25% of women), and the remaining 1 in 5 reporting 10 or more sex partners (22% of men, and 23% of women)."

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-report-finds-link-between-strong-marriages-and-sexual-restraint-during-the-dating-years-301802184.html#:~:text=Married men and women are,%2C 25% of women)%2C

 

So whilst there are women who do opt to have more than 10 partners, they are a  very small minority, roughly 80% of men and women have less than 10 partners before marriage.

 

Interestingly the same report also found:

 

"Married men and women who have only had sex with their spouse have a nearly 45% chance of reporting a very high level of relationship stability in their marriage, compared to only 25% of married individuals with 5-9 lifetime sexual partners and only 14% of married individuals with 10 or more lifetime sexual partners.

 

In analyzing the overall trendline, for every additional lifetime sexual partner reported, the probability of the individual being highly satisfied with their marriage decreased by almost 4%, the probability of their marriage being highly stable decreased by 6.5% and the probability of their marriage containing high levels of sexual satisfaction decreased by 4% in comparison to individuals who have only had sex with their spouse.

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-report-finds-link-between-strong-marriages-and-sexual-restraint-during-the-dating-years-301802184.html#:~:text=Married men and women are,%2C 25% of women)%2C

 

So yes, while there undoubtedly are women with 100, even 600 male sexual partners in the case of one Australian famously, the very vast majority of men and women, 80 percent do not go down this route.

 

Indeed, the more sexual partners, the less relationship satisfaction and stability can be predicted.

 

Maybe that's why Taylor Swift feels so bad about her own promiscuity, rather than moral concerns, she can feel her own dissatisfaction with her own life.

 

Wow that was a very thorough reply it was also very amusing considering that the study that you cited comes from the Wheatley Institute at Brigham Young University, which is a Mormon Institution. Of course the findings are going to be biased and of course the women are going to lie when asked about a question like this. How many women do you think would actually come out and say "I don't know I think I probably banged about 700 guys, I had at least four guys a week between the age of 13 and 20, so what does that add up to? And does anal count? 

 

Anyway I find it quite amusing your obsession with so called purity, it's almost a Muslim type of obsession. I prefer experienced women, I find them to be a lot more interesting. Virgins are boring! 

 

 

[Cameroni]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Wow that was a very thorough reply it was also very amusing considering that the study that you cited comes from the Wheatley Institute at Brigham Young University, which is a Mormon Institution. Of course the findings are going to be biased and of course the women are going to lie when asked about a question like this. How many women do you think would actually come out and say "I don't know I think I probably banged about 700 guys, I had at least four guys a week between the age of 13 and 20, so what does that add up to? And does anal count? 

 

Anyway I find it quite amusing your obsession with so called purity, it's almost a Muslim type of obsession. I prefer experienced women, I find them to be a lot more interesting. Virgins are boring! 

 

 

 

If you don't like that university, fine, a 2014 study2 of CDC data from 2006 to 2010 found almost identical figures:

 

Ages 30-34: Among women, 22% had 0-1 partner, 31% had had 2-4 partners, 25% had had 5-9 partners, and 22% had had 10+ partners. 

 

https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/the-ideal-number-of-sexual-partners-for-men-women#:~:text=A 2017 survey of 2%2C180,average of 8 sexual partners.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5795598/

 

So again, about 20% women have more than 10 partners, 80% don't.

 

Hyper-promiscuity is just not the norm. If you like hyper-promiscuous women, okay, up to you, but it really is not the norm, it's a bit odd.

 

I don't have an obsession with "purity", not even a little, but when you choose a relationship it would be wise to choose carfefully and indications are that hyper promiscous women make poor partners.

 

From her endorsement of Kamala Harris it would appear they also make poor political decisions.

[LosLobo]

15 hours ago, Cameroni said:

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He's not a serial dater like Swift. 12 exes. That's repugnant.

Don't you find it repugnant that Trump has allegedly sexual assaulted twice as many women as Swift has had exes, that doesn't include three rapes, one his wife, the other a 50-year-old woman and another a 13-year-old girl?

 

[Chomper Higgot]

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

If you don't like that university, fine, a 2014 study2 of CDC data from 2006 to 2010 found almost identical figures:

 

Ages 30-34: Among women, 22% had 0-1 partner, 31% had had 2-4 partners, 25% had had 5-9 partners, and 22% had had 10+ partners. 

 

https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/the-ideal-number-of-sexual-partners-for-men-women#:~:text=A 2017 survey of 2%2C180,average of 8 sexual partners.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5795598/

 

So again, about 20% women have more than 10 partners, 80% don't.

 

Hyper-promiscuity is just not the norm. If you like hyper-promiscuous women, okay, up to you, but it really is not the norm, it's a bit odd.

 

I don't have an obsession with "purity", not even a little, but when you choose a relationship it would be wise to choose carfefully and indications are that hyper promiscous women make poor partners.

 

From her endorsement of Kamala Harris it would appear they also make poor political decisions.

Can we see your evidence that each and all of Taylor Swift’s relationships was sexual?

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

54 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I don't denigrate women at all. I'm saying those women who choose to have more than 10 sexual partners are a minority, and if Swift had 12 she doesn't make good decisions. 

 

It's not a likeable trait in a woman, sleeping around, but I'm not saying all women do that, 80 percent don't. 

Can we see your evidence that each and all of Taylor Swift’s relationships was sexual?

 

[Will B Good]

10 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Don't you find it repugnant that Trump has allegedly sexual assaulted twice as many women as Swift has had exes, that doesn't include three rapes, one his wife, the other a 50-year-old woman and another a 13-year-old girl?

 

 

Expect a load of waffle.....not found guilty in a criminal court, no evidence other than false accusations, smears put out by his enemies......Trump is their God.....there is only one God.....Trump raping women is nothing compared to a woman having more than one consenting sexual relationship.

[spidermike007]

30 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

If you don't like that university, fine, a 2014 study2 of CDC data from 2006 to 2010 found almost identical figures:

 

Ages 30-34: Among women, 22% had 0-1 partner, 31% had had 2-4 partners, 25% had had 5-9 partners, and 22% had had 10+ partners. 

 

https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/the-ideal-number-of-sexual-partners-for-men-women#:~:text=A 2017 survey of 2%2C180,average of 8 sexual partners.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5795598/

 

So again, about 20% women have more than 10 partners, 80% don't.

 

Hyper-promiscuity is just not the norm. If you like hyper-promiscuous women, okay, up to you, but it really is not the norm, it's a bit odd.

 

I don't have an obsession with "purity", not even a little, but when you choose a relationship it would be wise to choose carfefully and indications are that hyper promiscous women make poor partners.

 

From her endorsement of Kamala Harris it would appear they also make poor political decisions.

I sense that you're out of touch, not sure how much time you spend in the US, nor how many people you know with teenage girls, but a dear friend of mine told me about an incident where her 13 year old daughter (who was quite beautifu) was sulking for about a month, and she finally said look we made a deal when you were a little bit younger, that you if anything really strange was ever happened with you, you could come to me and we could discuss it. And that we were always going to be open with each other like that. So, what's up with you? She said okay mom you really want to know, are you sure you want to know? And her mother said yes, she said okay I'm the only girl in my seventh grade class who does not blow her classmates, are you happy now? Her mother said what are you talking about, she said it's so casual right now that I'm being ostracized and I'm a pariah because I won't just casually blow nearly every classmate. And that was 20 years ago, from what I understand now it's escalated to anal instead of oral. So make out of that whatever you will. Would a woman confess to having done 300 classmates over 3 years?

 

Apply whatever puritanical standard you need to apply and then tell me that I'm out of my mind, and that I made this this stuff up. 

[Bkk Brian]

48 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

If you don't like that university, fine, a 2014 study2 of CDC data from 2006 to 2010 found almost identical figures:

 

Ages 30-34: Among women, 22% had 0-1 partner, 31% had had 2-4 partners, 25% had had 5-9 partners, and 22% had had 10+ partners. 

 

https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/the-ideal-number-of-sexual-partners-for-men-women#:~:text=A 2017 survey of 2%2C180,average of 8 sexual partners.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5795598/

 

So again, about 20% women have more than 10 partners, 80% don't.

 

Hyper-promiscuity is just not the norm. If you like hyper-promiscuous women, okay, up to you, but it really is not the norm, it's a bit odd.

 

I don't have an obsession with "purity", not even a little, but when you choose a relationship it would be wise to choose carfefully and indications are that hyper promiscous women make poor partners.

 

From her endorsement of Kamala Harris it would appear they also make poor political decisions.

Look again by country:

 

In the US it also depends on which state, 

 

How many sexual partners does someone from the United States have?
On average, people who live in the United States have between 10 and 11 sexual partners over the course of their lives. However, the average number of sexual partners a person in the US has can vary widely from state to state, based upon local cultures and religious preferences in particular. For example, residents of Louisiana report an average of 15.7 sexual partners. By comparison, the people of Utah, 62% of whom belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, report an average of 2.6 sexual partners.

The age at which someone loses his or her virginity can also impact the number of sexual partners he or she has. In the United States, people tend to lose their virginity at 17 years of age, on average.

 

 

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Look again by country:

 

In the US it also depends on which state, 

 

How many sexual partners does someone from the United States have?
On average, people who live in the United States have between 10 and 11 sexual partners over the course of their lives. However, the average number of sexual partners a person in the US has can vary widely from state to state, based upon local cultures and religious preferences in particular. For example, residents of Louisiana report an average of 15.7 sexual partners. By comparison, the people of Utah, 62% of whom belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, report an average of 2.6 sexual partners.

The age at which someone loses his or her virginity can also impact the number of sexual partners he or she has. In the United States, people tend to lose their virginity at 17 years of age, on average.

 

 

 

 

Don't forget ....numbers of sexual partners is only relevant if you are talking about women......men can have as many as they want.

 

 

 

[cjinchiangrai]

On 9/20/2024 at 9:39 AM, frank83628 said:

why, Trump wants to stop wars, those 2 named are pro war, no wonder they have switched, Dems are the pro-war party now

The one that wanted to nuke hurricanes? Not likely.

[Cameroni]

34 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I sense that you're out of touch, not sure how much time you spend in the US, nor how many people you know with teenage girls, but a dear friend of mine told me about an incident where her 13 year old daughter (who was quite beautifu) was sulking for about a month, and she finally said look we made a deal when you were a little bit younger, that you if anything really strange was ever happened with you, you could come to me and we could discuss it. And that we were always going to be open with each other like that. So, what's up with you? She said okay mom you really want to know, are you sure you want to know? And her mother said yes, she said okay I'm the only girl in my seventh grade class who does not blow her classmates, are you happy now? Her mother said what are you talking about, she said it's so casual right now that I'm being ostracized and I'm a pariah because I won't just casually blow nearly every classmate. And that was 20 years ago, from what I understand now it's escalated to anal instead of oral. So make out of that whatever you will. Would a woman confess to having done 300 classmates over 3 years?

 

Apply whatever puritanical standard you need to apply and then tell me that I'm out of my mind, and that I made this this stuff up. 

 

That was seriously funny, thanks for sharing that story.

 

If you seriously think an entire school class of 13 year olds is engaging in anal sex covertly, though, maybe you need to dial back on the porn a bit, lol.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

It's not a likeable trait in a woman, sleeping around

You are saying Taylor Swift is ‘sleeping around’, something you have stated is not a likable trait in a woman.

 

It is therefore incumbent upon you to produce the evidence that Taylor Swift is sleeping around 

 

Not your pejorative assumption, real evidence.

 

Give it your best go.

[stoner]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You are saying Taylor Swift is ‘sleeping around’, something you have stated is not a likable trait in a woman.

 

It is therefore incumbent upon you to produce the evidence that Taylor Swift is sleeping around 

 

Not your pejorative assumption, real evidence.

 

Give it your best go.

 

Your demand is stupid. Should he provide you a used condom to inspect ?

 

So many white knights in this thread.

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

That was seriously funny, thanks for sharing that story.

 

If you seriously think an entire school class of 13 year olds is engaging in anal sex covertly, though, maybe you need to dial back on the porn a bit, lol.

Sorry to disappoint you but I don't watch that kind of porn. The source was a very dear friend of mine, she had absolutely no agenda, it was something she was very distressed about, and it took her a month to get the truth out of her daughter. So this was truth directly from the source, deny it all you want, it doesn't change anything. 

 

 

[Cameroni]

12 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Sorry to disappoint you but I don't watch that kind of porn. The source was a very dear friend of mine, she had absolutely no agenda, it was something she was very distressed about, and it took her a month to get the truth out of her daughter. So this was truth directly from the source, deny it all you want, it doesn't change anything. 

 

 

Leaving aside that it is hard to believe that an entire class of 13 year olds was engaging in oral sex with each other, you added that now they'd do anal.

 

I find both premises implausible, and would hazard a guess that it is more likely the daughter was trying to shock her mom, if this was indeed a true story.

[bubblegum]

I'm seeing an overload of <deleted>e post on social media about how bad Taylor Swift is. I don't really care for her either but these posters are the dumb far right nitwits who let their political preference dictate what kind of music to like.

 

What if you are a big fan of lets say somebody you liked all your live? And now, suddenly you cannot like this artist anymore? Isn't that just the dumbness thing in the world?

[stoner]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No it’s just the latest slur from a bunch of guys posting from their mum’s spadisbarrigingre bedroom.

 

 

I love how you are steadfast in sticking up for Taylor .....yet at the same time disbarriging others. 

 

Stay classy San Diego.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

I love how you are steadfast in sticking up for Taylor .....yet at the same time disbarriging others. 

 

Stay classy San Diego.

That won’t get better if you keep picking at it.

[stoner]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

That won’t get better if you keep picking at it.

 

Deflect much.

[Chomper Higgot]

58 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

Your demand is stupid. Should he provide you a used condom to inspect ?

 

So many white knights in this thread.

It’s not stupid, it’s completely consistent with the ‘World News’ forum rules. Statements purporting to be fact need to be backed up with credible evidence/links.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

Deflect much.

Says guy dragging some past grievance into the thread.

 

Get over what ever it was already.

 

[stoner]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not stupid, it’s completely consistent with the ‘World News’ forum rules. Statements purporting to be fact need to be backed up with credible evidence/links.

 

It is stupid. It's a stupid gotcha question typical of your kind.

 

 

[KannikaP]

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

and if Swift had 12 she doesn't make good decisions. 

Yeh, bad decision. She could have had me as No. 13. 

[stoner]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Says guy dragging some past grievance into the thread.

 

Get over what ever it was already.

 

 

What ? You are a hypocrite. Sticking up for one at the same time putting down others.

 

Your comment is simply a pathetic attempt to troll. And a personal dig as usual. You seem to get away with it a lot. 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

It is stupid. It's a stupid gotcha question typical of your kind.

 

 

It’s not a stupid gotcha question.

 

Cameroni has made statements that he can’t back up.

 

I’m simply calling out his baseless and pejorative claims.

Why that bothers you personally is a mystery.

 

[stoner]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a stupid gotcha question.

 

Cameron’s has made statements that he can’t back up.

 

I’m simply calling out his baseless and pejorative claims.

Why that bothers you personally is a mystery.

 

 

What bothers me is you standing on a higher moral ground while belittling others. 

 

It's so pathetic.