Why do some Farang worry so much about Thailand being too =hot=?

[fredwiggy]

2 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

people always ask does Thailand have seasons ?  Yes..  Hot, Really F**** Hot, and Hot and Rainy

can't wait for the Really F** Hot to hit..   absolutely love it !

and as far as Rainy ?    at least here in the Hua-Hin area.    the rainy season was pretty weak this year

still got to enjoy plenty of beach days ( with the tide way out) and put some decent milage on my clubs.

This is among the many reasons I will move back to Texas. 4 seasons, cool and cold weather as a break, yet warm enough to do things almost every day outdoors. If it rains, it does for a few days then stops. A lot of rain might fall in those few days to cause local flooding, but it does stop, then back to warm.

[fredwiggy]

10 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I do not know why...

But, HK feels hotter than Thailand when walking in the city of HK.

By comparison, Chiang Mai is far much more comfortable.

 

Maybe it's the humidity of being so close to the harbor, and maybe it is the increased heat-island effect of HK Island.

I do not know.

 

All I know is that CM is more comfortable than HK.....for sure, ...especially this time of year.

 

 

It's the same reason New Jersey in August is unbearably hot. Close to the ocean. Houston has the same problem. Humidity is higher than inland.

[MarkBR]

1 hour ago, AlaskaDave said:

Yes, unfortunately it is getting hotter in Thailand as well as in many other places in the world. That is a consequence of our way of life, a way of life exemplified by the OP who brags about his use of "70,000 BTUs going FULL BLAST" air conditioning. Maybe OP doesn't realize or care that those 70,000 BTUs were quite possibly generated by a coal-burning power source. 

I rent an air conditioned house in Chiang Mai but I try to use A/C only when I'm very uncomfortable with the afternoon heat and even then, only in my office.  Did you ever see the movie, "Don't look up"? It's about people who keep themselves intentionally ignorant about what's happening around them despite reams of evidence that should inform them. People who stay cool with no thought about the consequences of that behavior down the road are disproportionately contributing to climate change. It's a catch-22 — burn more coal to keep your homes cool while the CO2 from the coal burning raises the temperature of the planet which requires more air conditioning. Ad nauseum...

Understand?

 

Tropical rainforests in Antartica here we come!

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

If you understood other languages, and lived amongst other nationalities, you would see that everyone on earth complains. Complaining is how things bad are changed. Complacency is how they stay the same, and how evil is allowed to prosper.

What are you talking about?????

You are not making any sense. 

Different nationalities and languages are my speciality 

 

I work on an offshore drilling rig mate, I've travelled, worked and studied in over 40 countries. 

 

You are one of the complaining foreigners, if you don't like it here, go back to where you come from, SIMPLE. 

 

Leave Thailand alone, I like it the way it is, there's been too many changes already because of you lot. 

 

 

Edited September 21 by SAFETY FIRST

[fredwiggy]

5 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

What are you talking about?????

Youarenot making any sense. 

 

I work on an offshore drilling rig mate, I've travelled, worked and studied in over 40 countries. 

 

You are one of the complaining foreigners, if you don't like it go back to where you come from, SIMPLE. 

 

Leave Thailand alone, I like it the way it is, there's been too many changes already because of you lot. 

 

 

I'm making perfect sense. Again things that are bad can be changed by people complaining about them. This is how laws are written. This is how people are made safer on the roads. This is how gun control can be made to have people live safer lives.  Because you visited 40 countries means you spent little time in any of them. You are mostly around a group of people, and not amongst the people who live in those countries, seeing what the problems are, and not knowing how those problems can be changed.

 

You think it's only foreigners that complain here? That means you don't live amongst them, and hear what they say, daily, about the things that hurt this country. Corruption here is as high as anywhere on earth, and this hurts the populace. Human trafficking here is huge, and this hurts individuals and families, permanently sometimes. Why do you think so many protest downtown in Bangkok? For changes. Problem is, they jail or kill many who protest, unlike western countries where you can say anything you want, as long as it isn't threatening.

 

If you actually lived here, and knew what actually goes on, you might understand why others complain. Westerners know a better way of life, and would like to see some things changed here not only for their good, but for the good of everyone who lives here. It doesn't mean you change everything, but things that are hurting the locals. It doesn't matter what you like about Thailand. This country is still many years behind the standards of safe living. The only way things will improve here is if ideas from other, more developed countries are put in place. The road system sucks here. The  electricity one uses here is outdated. Laws aren't enforced and money can but off most any problems. The way children are cared for is appalling. The schools pass children who are failing, and fathers aren't made responsible for the children they conceive. You think this will change without complaining? Rose colored glasses and brown nosing lets things that are bad continue.

[SAFETY FIRST]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm making perfect sense. Again things that are bad can be changed by people complaining about them. This is how laws are written. This is how people are made safer on the roads. This is how gun control can be made to have people live safer lives.  Because you visited 40 countries means you spent little time in any of them. You are mostly around a group of people, and not amongst the people who live in those countries, seeing what the problems are, and not knowing how those problems can be changed.

 

You think it's only foreigners that complain here? That means you don't live amongst them, and hear what they say, daily, about the things that hurt this country. Corruption here is as high as anywhere on earth, and this hurts the populace. Human trafficking here is huge, and this hurts individuals and families, permanently sometimes. Why do you think so many protest downtown in Bangkok? For changes. Problem is, they jail or kill many who protest, unlike western countries where you can say anything you want, as long as it isn't threatening.

 

If you actually lived here, and knew what actually goes on, you might understand why others complain. Westerners know a better way of life, and would like to see some things changed here not only for their good, but for the good of everyone who lives here. It doesn't mean you change everything, but things that are hurting the locals. It doesn't matter what you like about Thailand. This country is still many years behind the standards of safe living. The only way things will improve here is if ideas from other, more developed countries are put in place. The road system sucks here. The  electricity one uses here is outdated. Laws aren't enforced and money can but off most any problems. The way children are cared for is appalling. The schools pass children who are failing, and fathers aren't made responsible for the children they conceive. You think this will change without complaining? Rose colored glasses and brown nosing lets things that are bad continue.

I'm begging you, please stop, stop, stop the complaining and moaning by all you negative, glass half empty, miserable foreigners.

 

I'm fed up with it. 🙏

 

Edited September 21 by SAFETY FIRST

[fredwiggy]

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'm begging you, please stop, stop, stop the complaining and moaning by all you negative, glass half empty, miserable foreigners.

 

I'm fed up with it. 🙏

 

I'm not moaning. I state things exactly how they are. I'm not miserable either, but this is not a good place for either myself or my daughter to live. If you don't understand what actually goes on here, you shouldn't reply. There are thousands of expats here that don't like living here, but do because they have a woman here that won't leave Thailand.  Remember, you don't have to read, nor reply, on anything posted here. Unless of course you are wanting to discuss things with an open mind or want to give advice. Why, if you are living on an oil platform, do you feel the need to comment if that's where you spend most of your time/ There are many people that actually live here full time and have no clue of what goes on here daily, because they live in a small village outside population centers and rarely leave the house, nor watch the news.

[SAFETY FIRST]

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm not moaning. I state things exactly how they are. I'm not miserable either, but this is not a good place for either myself or my daughter to live. If you don't understand what actually goes on here, you shouldn't reply. There are thousands of expats here that don't like living here, but do because they have a woman here that won't leave Thailand.  Remember, you don't have to read, nor reply, on anything posted here. Unless of course you are wanting to discuss things with an open mind or want to give advice. Why, if you are living on an oil platform, do you feel the need to comment if that's where you spend most of your time/ There are many people that actually live here full time and have no clue of what goes on here daily, because they live in a small village outside population centers and rarely leave the house, nor watch the news.

You must stop the complaining, you encourage the weak, the people with mental illness to follow your negativity. 

 

Try waking up one day, be positive, be a glass half full guy, your family and friends will start to love you again. 

 

Edited September 21 by SAFETY FIRST

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You must stop the complaining, you encourage the weak, the people with mental illness to follow your negativity. 

 

Try waking up one day, be positive, be a glass half full guy, your family and friends will start to love you again. 

 

Complaining, again, is how things are changed. This means negative things. People with depression only help themselves if they are knowledgeable about depression, and know the steps to take, If not, another one who cares about them encourages them to take steps to change their lives, and thinking. Ask yourself, how exactly are things changed for the better. Complaining about them. If enough complain, things can be changed. If politicians want to get elected, they listen to the people's complaints, and if they are smart, they'll do things to encourage change. If they don't make changes, they're fired. My family and friends love me as I am. They actually complain also, just as most people who want changes do. Letting people walk all over you without complaining, is how depression takes a grip. It's called environmental depression, and comes from toxic people that constantly put others down. How do you stop them? By complaining when they try and tear you down, and not letting them take over.

[JAS21]

From my experience if you are getting aged and have health problems then there are times that the heat and humidity will affect  you.

 

I’ve  been her full for around seventeen years … the heat never used to bother me and I didn’t sweat much … used to even sit out in the sun. However since are now a lot older and heart is not that good anymore I sweat a lot and it’s quite uncomfortable at times … my shirt sticking to me affects my golf swing … well that’s my excuse …

 

ps … I’m not fat but I can appreciate that those of you who are may suffer more.

[SAFETY FIRST]

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Complaining, again, is how things are changed. This means negative things. People with depression only help themselves if they are knowledgeable about depression, and know the steps to take, If not, another one who cares about them encourages them to take steps to change their lives, and thinking. Ask yourself, how exactly are things changed for the better. Complaining about them. If enough complain, things can be changed. If politicians want to get elected, they listen to the people's complaints, and if they are smart, they'll do things to encourage change. If they don't make changes, they're fired. My family and friends love me as I am. They actually complain also, just as most people who want changes do. Letting people walk all over you without complaining, is how depression takes a grip. It's called environmental depression, and comes from toxic people that constantly put others down. How do you stop them? By complaining when they try and tear you down, and not letting them take over.

Nothing needs changing, it's why I chose to live in Thailand 

 

No changes required. 

 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

Nothing needs changing, it's why I chose to live in Thailand 

 

No changes required. 

 

Try getting out more, and look at the daily news. Not only here, but worldwide, which covers things here also. I, and many others, have mentioned many things that need changes here, and it's not for us but for everyone who actually lives here. Just a few, since you think things are so great, is the driving habits and lack of enforcement of driving laws. 65 dead daily means things need to be changed. Most involving those not wearing helmets on scooters ,speeding and driving drunk. The exchange of money instead of punishment for crimes against others, a few baht and a wai and all is well, even though uncle was killed by a drunk driver. Men having countless children and never paying any child support, which lets them repeat this behavior as many times as the clueless young girls let them.

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, Nemises said:

Given your failure to admit otherwise, it’s obvious your pool is unshaded. Sorry to hear that you have wasted your money on something unusable during tropical hot season daylight hours - which is often.
 

Keep telling yourself how “wonderfully refreshing” it is during the hot season. We all believe you, DUDE!

🤣🙃

We dont care what you believe Dude. We have a nice pool. You dont, Evidently.

 

Wow you are sooooooo jealous

[SAFETY FIRST]

11 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Try getting out more, and look at the daily news. Not only here, but worldwide, which covers things here also. I, and many others, have mentioned many things that need changes here, and it's not for us but for everyone who actually lives here. Just a few, since you think things are so great, is the driving habits and lack of enforcement of driving laws. 65 dead daily means things need to be changed. Most involving those not wearing helmets on scooters ,speeding and driving drunk. The exchange of money instead of punishment for crimes against others, a few baht and a wai and all is well, even though uncle was killed by a drunk driver. Men having countless children and never paying any child support, which lets them repeat this behavior as many times as the clueless young girls let them.

I'm out and about everyday, enjoying every minute of the day. 

 

Loving life here in Thailand, I have a big family here in Thailand, I tend to avoid foreigners, keeping my socialising to family and close friends. 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'm out and about everyday, enjoying every minute of the day. 

 

Loving life here in Thailand, I have a big family here in Thailand, I tend to avoid foreigners, keeping my socialising to family and close friends. 

 

 

Avoiding foreigners and showing a brown nosing tendency explains why you think foreigners are always complaining. Again, my point was, to change things, complaining is necessary. This means for everyone in any particular country, and not only foreigners, who really have no say in making changes happen and can only pass on advice to locals. Thai people look to the west for almost everything. Almost everything you see people have here was made in the west, and Thais use them daily, which means they are influenced by foreigners and their habits, culture and things they own. Everything they use , from road work, electricity, phones, TV's, computers, music and laws are from western ideals. They aren't enforced as well, as far as the laws, and this is where they still fail their people. Thais complain every day here, but you aren't saying anything about them .

[Nemises]

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

We dont care what you believe Dude. We have a nice pool. You dont, Evidently.

 

 

“We” ? You mean that you are putting the health of others at risk out there in the unbearable tropical midday heat in sun-drenched hot water without a cover over it? Or is it just you stupid enough to endure that torture?

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, Nemises said:

“We” ? You mean that you are putting the health of others at risk out there in the unbearable tropical midday heat in sun-drenched hot water without a cover over it? Or is it just you stupid enough to endure that torture?

The last flailings of the dude in the $50 a month room with a 50 year old rooftop pool. Keep going making a fool of yourself pool boy.

[Nemises]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

The last flailings of the dude in the $50 a month room with a 50 year old rooftop pool. Keep going making a fool of yourself pool boy.

Fool? You’re the fool for wasting your money on an uncovered pond of un-swimmable hot water in the tropics …and even more foolish lying about it being “wonderfully refreshing”. Keep the lies coming fool boy. Its great entertainment!

[Yagoda]

Just now, Nemises said:

Fool? You’re the fool for wasting your money on an uncovered pond of un-swimmable hot water in the tropics …and even more foolish lying about it being “wonderfully refreshing”. Keep the lies coming fool boy. Its great entertainment!

Hahahahahahahahahah.........

 

Keep screeching..........

[SAFETY FIRST]

29 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Avoiding foreigners and showing a brown nosing tendency explains why you think foreigners are always complaining. Again, my point was, to change things, complaining is necessary. This means for everyone in any particular country, and not only foreigners, who really have no say in making changes happen and can only pass on advice to locals. Thai people look to the west for almost everything. Almost everything you see people have here was made in the west, and Thais use them daily, which means they are influenced by foreigners and their habits, culture and things they own. Everything they use , from road work, electricity, phones, TV's, computers, music and laws are from western ideals. They aren't enforced as well, as far as the laws, and this is where they still fail their people. Thais complain every day here, but you aren't saying anything about them .

Crikey, it's you again.

 

You win mate, I'm out of here, you hold the record for having the most replies from me in one thread, well done to you.

 

I'm off to enjoy my day, can I suggest you get off the keyboard and enjoy your day to.

 

 

[Nemises]

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Hahahahahahahahahah.........

 

Keep screeching..........

Ok, Mr “wonderfully refreshing”  🤣🤣

[GammaGlobulin]

13 hours ago, sidjameson said:

How often do you go outside? If used to Aircon that much it must be a struggle.

 

NOTHING so simple in life is a struggle for me.

 

This is ridiculous.

 

Just because one uses AC does not mean that one stops being acclimated to high temperatures while living in a warm climate.

 

The body does not work that way.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

6 hours ago, AlaskaDave said:

Maybe OP doesn't realize or care that those 70,000 BTUs were quite possibly generated by a coal-burning power source. 

 

I used to care...until....it got so hot.

 

Now I do not care.

 

We will soon be breaking through 2 degrees C, and then 3 degrees C.

I now could not care less.

 

I just want to stay cool, myself, until.... KingDomCome

 

[GammaGlobulin]

7 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I love the drizzly, it keeps things cool, it's nice to ride my PCX when it's spitting/drizzling, best ride ever. 

 

Somehow, I can't see the likes of Chomsky on a PCX in the drizzle, and enjoying it.

 

If it's not good enough for Noam, then not for me, either, probably....

 

 

[John Drake]

19 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

I have to laugh, outdoors?

 

I worked in Arlington Texas for five months in 1991, as a software engineer,  it was hot, and I saw no people living the outdoor life, the only people outside were Mexicans etc working in gardens in the blistering heat.

 

Most Texans were in their aircon cars, going to aircon restaurants or shopping malls etc.

 

I decided to walk the half mile to work one day and was stopped by the police, they wondered why I was walking, but once they found out I was a Brit they were OK about it.

 

One of the times in a shopping mall with a few Texans we decided to get in the car to go to a restaurant, we started off and after 100 yards parked again, I said I thought we were going to a restaurant, it is here was the reply, they couldn't be bothered to walk 100 yards. 

 

A bit like Thailand really, I suppose it is different in the sticks though where the poor people live. 

 

I remember taking a drive to Dallas and parked downtown, I ate at a restaurant and asked the waiter if I could leave my car in the car park for an hour or two while I had a walk around the area, it was 8 pm.

 

He said here in Dallas, you drive your car, park where you need to be, and do not walk the streets.

 

As I drove around I noticed gangs of mostly black guys hanging around at street intersections wearing banditos and colors.

 

Maybe it has all changed now but I did not feel any freedom as was the case when I worked in New Jersey for a year.

 

By contrast, I had another contract in Amsterdam, Holland, the two Texans and a few other Americans I was working with could not believe how we could wander about at 2 am without any feel of threat of any kind, they told me they could not do this in major cities back home.

 

 

I grew up in Dallas and lived there some years off and on until I came to Thailand in 2010. Your description, I think, is pretty accurate. It's 45 minutes to "anything" by car. Nobody walks. Few people even spend time in their backyards. Almost nobody does their own yard work, mowing, raking leaves, picking up acorns, or any other landscaping. People in Texas, as a result, have become some of the softest bunch in the US. Growing up, I only got an a/c window unit in our house when I was about 6 or 7--1961 or thereabouts. Didn't notice it was so hot, because you just lived with it. Too, people don't suffer from heat so much if they don't overeat and become overweight. Acclimatization, diet, exercise, and non-sedentary lifestyle makes all the difference.

Edited September 21 by John Drake

[GammaGlobulin]

3 hours ago, John Drake said:

I grew up in Dallas and lived there some years off an on until I came to Thailand in 2010. Your description, I think, is pretty accurate. It's 45 minutes to "anything" by car. Nobody walks.

 

In Dallas....Money Talks....Nobody Walks

 

I often went there, flying out of Taiwan, to see a big customer.

 

I hated Dallas.

 

If you got no money, then just hang out on the street corners, and look tough...

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lacessit]

44 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

In Dallas....Money Talks....Nobody Walks

 

I often went there, flying out of Taiwan, to see a big customer.

 

I hated Dallas.

 

If you got no money, then just hang out on the street corners, and look tough...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dallas was my first experience of the USA, when I was one of the speakers at an international corrosion conference.

 

During my week there, I saw Ricky Nelson live on stage.

 

I can remember going to the jewellery section of Nieman-Marcus, and marveling at the mix of classical beauty and sheer vulgarity in the gold section.

 

My next stop was Gary, Indiana, visiting a steel mill. A socio-economic disparity.

 

 

[stoner]

On 9/20/2024 at 4:45 AM, Red Forever said:

Jeez what a ramble. Are you Donald Trump?

 

octd much ? 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I can remember going to the jewellery section of Nieman-Marcus

 

I once purchased a nice piece of jewelry at Nieman-Marcus in Dallas.

 

Quite a pretty penny, as I recall.

 

I purchased it as a gift for one of my buyers.

 

Also, concerning corrosion and jewelry...

 

Have you ever used a Salt Spray Chamber to test for corrosion resistance of plating on jewelry?

I have.

 

I am experienced....

As Jimi often sang....

 

Are you experienced?

 

 

Those were the good days.....

Protesting against the Vietnam War....

 

JFK found Dallas to be not so much to his liking...or so I have heard....

 

Made out of gold, and can't be sold.....Are You?

 

Gardens of STONE....

 

Voodoo Child is just so.....HOT !!!!!

 

 

Edited September 21 by GammaGlobulin

[Lacessit]

58 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I once purchased a nice piece of jewelry at Nieman-Marcus in Dallas.

 

Quite a pretty penny, as I recall.

 

I purchased it as a gift for one of my buyers.

 

Also, concerning corrosion and jewelry...

 

Have you ever used a Salt Spray Chamber to test for corrosion resistance of plating on jewelry?

I have.

 

I am experienced....

As Jimi often sang....

 

Are you experienced?

 

 

Those were the good days.....

Protesting against the Vietnam War....

 

JFK found Dallas to be not so much to his liking...or so I have heard....

 

Made out of gold, and can't be sold.....Are You?

 

Gardens of STONE....

 

Voodoo Child is just so.....HOT !!!!!

 

 

I witnessed an argument between Robert Baboian (RIP) and Herbert Townsend over the validity of salt spray testing at the conference. Both were at the top of their fields.

 

Baboian was the prime mover in developing salt spray testing as an ASTM standard.

 

Townsend really got under Baboian's skin when he said " Salt spray testing is an excellent means for deciding what material to use when building a salt spray cabinet".