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Homeless Woman Using Illegal Drugs Openly on Pattaya Street Raises Concerns Over City Image


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8 hours ago, webfact said:

and she reportedly urinated and defecated near drainage pipes, which tarnished Pattaya’s tourism reputation.

The first thing that struck me on my initial visit to Pattaya in the early 90's was the pristine condition of the drainage pies and the area adjacent to them . I am horrified that such an outstanding feature has now been disrespectfully soiled,  

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3 hours ago, Sig said:

Finally, at the very end of the article, their real concern comes out. They couldn't give a rat's a** about the woman, just the reputation of the world class family friendly tourist destination.🤮

of coarse they couldn't  ... that's thais. 

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The story is a good illustration of why governments have never won a "war on drugs" anywhere in the world. When people with mental health issues are left to live on the streets, one cannot be surprised if they want to deaden the pain.  

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9 hours ago, webfact said:

The woman is often seen using drugs under the cover of a yellow umbrella, and she reportedly urinated and defecated near drainage pipes, which tarnished Pattaya’s tourism reputation.

Soi Buokaew is a sewer. It's dirty, and it smells, and I won't blame the poor woman for it. I can't take my 17-year-old near it. He hates the hookers with 70-year-old men, and he's right; it stinks. 

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47 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

You are joking right ?    immigrants are treated as vip's in the uk    it native brits who have become second class citizens in their own country.

2nd class? It's further down the totem pole. 

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Addicts, the abused, and the mentally ill know that their best changes for survival are in those places where their behavior is least disturbing to those around them (bad begets bad). If nothing else, this does not degrade Pattaya, but simply confirms facts #chithole

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Distressing scene...I call the other side of Thailand Burma Chiang Rai border of Tachileik a crackden..it's mad ! People on their side gluesniffing in the street...drugs awash in that town.

 

Not some single woman having a suck of glass distressing...haha

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13 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

So great concern for the potentially tarnished image of  Pattaya,  but little concern for a very vulnerable , homeless woman who obviously has serious issues.

 Apparently some passers by offered her money , but what did the "local reporters" do other than stand and stare whilst taking photos of her on their mobile phones? 

 What image do the authorities think Pattaya has globally ?   and more importantly, how have they  actually arrived at that conclusion?   

   

Soi Hong Nan as it is referred to by many, is a toilet and you see people cooking over top of a grey water drain and vent with the vent directly under the food being prepared.  It should be closed.

 

But I have to ask, why does anybody care about the image of one of the largest “reasonably safe” brothels in the world?  I have been here since 1997 and I came for exactly that reason alone - not for cheap food or warm sunshine.  Vancouver is and was too expensive for girls.  

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13 minutes ago, kuzmabruk said:

Soi Hong Nan as it is referred to by many, is a toilet and you see people cooking over top of a grey water drain and vent with the vent directly under the food being prepared.  It should be closed.

 

But I have to ask, why does anybody care about the image of one of the largest “reasonably safe” brothels in the world?  I have been here since 1997 and I came for exactly that reason alone - not for cheap food or warm sunshine.  Vancouver is and was too expensive for girls.  

             I came in 1995  for exactly the same reason,  I think back in those days everybody came for the same reason, and  , people were a bit less pretentious.  Thailand was a lot more fun back then and nobody even mentioned the words "family resort" it was sin city simple as that and I loved it. 

             Sadly the world is full of puritans and kill joys,  they don't like to see people having fun , some have tried their best to have it all stopped and the "family resort " was their intended aim,   but they never quite managed to achieve their intentions so what's  left is a bit of a sad hybrid , there maybe a few water parks and other stuff for families to do but there is still a lot of mongering going on, but its far from ideal and a poor imitation of what it used to be.   It puts me in mind of "soft porn" narrow minded people don't like to watch it  and neither do those who like hard core porn

               I haven't been there (properly) for a long time must be 20+ years but I did spend a couple of days there with the missis a couple of years before the covid scam, I was not very impressed, the bar girls all seemed to have got a bit fatter and more ugly,  and the place just did not have the same vibe it used to have , 

                I doubt I will ever go there again,  and I feel a bit sorry for those who never really experienced it back in its heyday   

              

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16 hours ago, Slocum said:

Perfect Country to legilise Drugs...What a beautiful Scene...Go back to basic...it's all the country doing......nobody to blame....

Looks like weed will be criminalized again here..... not an experiment that really worked out. 

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10 hours ago, ModdaPunk said:

 

Westerners

 

 

Thais

 

 

Kind of interesting... Most "Westerners" aren't doing these things with "making merit" in mind. Whether Christian or not, the vast majority of Westerners are influenced by a Christian culture/moral/value system over many centuries. It would seem that Thais would be more likely (than apparent in this article) to want to help her out, with their very conscientious making of merit in mind. I definitely don't know the inner workings of their Buddhism... is it more important to go out of one's way to the temples, to make merit, to help build more edifices with shiny glass bits on them and help the Abbots get nicer cars than to help those who fate has brought along one's path, as if a test, and see how sincere one's merit making is by helping where one's help isn't likely to be seen by anyone? Maybe sincerity in merit making doesn't matter at all? I have no idea. I doubt the Abbots and other monks, enjoying their lives in the temples, care if the donations came with sincerity in mind or not.... It reminds me of an acquaintance who was head of a department at one of the top Thai universities (in BKK). He only cared about getting funded. He was a monk until his education was finished - through his PhD. Then he quit monkhood and used his newfound credentials to start a business as well as begin his teaching career. I guess monkhood can be a good scholarship program. That was a bit of a rabbit trail!
Anyway... this is very curious to me - this image of Westerners trying to help her out, and the Thais apparently using her for sensationalism and complaining. To be fair, I'm sure there are Thais who care about her and would want to help, just as some Westerners did. But very strange how the reporting came out like this.

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For years and decades, day in, day out, from morning to evening and even at night, the constantly repeated, countless, disgusting scenes have been tarnishing the family-friendly destination of Pattaya... Are you planning a trip to Pattaya with your family in the future? Find out about it with TAT...!

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17 hours ago, Purdey said:

The story is a good illustration of why governments have never won a "war on drugs" anywhere in the world. When people with mental health issues are left to live on the streets, one cannot be surprised if they want to deaden the pain.  

Lots of poor Thais with mental problems in rural Thailand, not just in touristy places.

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23 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

Yeah, this government should be ashamed of itself corruption from the top to the bottom, but it comes to helping a person that obviously has some mental issues. They do absolutely nothing justice in Thailand so where is the Red Bull TIT?

Bulls don't have TITS.

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9 hours ago, Sig said:

Kind of interesting... Most "Westerners" aren't doing these things with "making merit" in mind. Whether Christian or not, the vast majority of Westerners are influenced by a Christian culture/moral/value system over many centuries. It would seem that Thais would be more likely (than apparent in this article) to want to help her out, with their very conscientious making of merit in mind. I definitely don't know the inner workings of their Buddhism... is it more important to go out of one's way to the temples, to make merit, to help build more edifices with shiny glass bits on them and help the Abbots get nicer cars than to help those who fate has brought along one's path, as if a test, and see how sincere one's merit making is by helping where one's help isn't likely to be seen by anyone? Maybe sincerity in merit making doesn't matter at all? I have no idea. I doubt the Abbots and other monks, enjoying their lives in the temples, care if the donations came with sincerity in mind or not.... It reminds me of an acquaintance who was head of a department at one of the top Thai universities (in BKK). He only cared about getting funded. He was a monk until his education was finished - through his PhD. Then he quit monkhood and used his newfound credentials to start a business as well as begin his teaching career. I guess monkhood can be a good scholarship program. That was a bit of a rabbit trail!
Anyway... this is very curious to me - this image of Westerners trying to help her out, and the Thais apparently using her for sensationalism and complaining. To be fair, I'm sure there are Thais who care about her and would want to help, just as some Westerners did. But very strange how the reporting came out like this.

 

Thailand is a tough country for locals. So they are tough with one another. When you have to deal with a significant load of garbage yourself, you're probably less likely to help others.

 

You're probably right about the influence of Christianity in our behaviours. Could add to that socialist, the wellfare state, the enlightment. But all of these are also rooted in Christianity in a way or another.

 

Westerners should give themselves more credit. We are a great civilisation. Not perfect but we are overall pretty decent people compared to many.

 

You're also right that the reporting is pretty biased.

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On 9/20/2024 at 7:16 PM, RichardColeman said:

Maybe is a sad life if you cannot sell it in the hope of finding a husband or give it away in the hope of finding a husband anymore !!! 

One wonders how much sadness is behind her..... I recall coming across a middle aged Thai woman one Sunday morning wailing at the top of her lungs.... there on Klang near the Bangkok Bank... really shook me up. 

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2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

One wonders how much sadness is behind her..... I recall coming across a middle aged Thai woman one Sunday morning wailing at the top of her lungs.... there on Klang near the Bangkok Bank... really shook me up. 

I think poverty & mental health issues are strongly intertwined in Thailand.  So, have no hope for betterment in the quality of their lives, especially in the rural areas.  So, young people run away to the Big City or descend into the abyss of Yabaland.

HiSO do not care much. it seems.

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On 9/20/2024 at 2:54 PM, shackleton said:

I have to 😃 to myself everytime a incident of negatively is quoted in the news Media of Pattaya 

Everytime it's quoted tarnishing the Image of Pattaya 

What image of  Pattaya is  the Thai authorities trying to protect 🥱

Pattaya is  known as the Sin city capital of the World and its not going to change  

In the near future 😱

Exactly.

"Clowns" changed mostly anything, anytime, anywhere,

into the negative only.

No matter, how hard they tried to achieve the opposite.

That's the clown's destiny.

 

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