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[couchpotato]

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

This post is almost 100 per cent wrong in everything.

 

Literally almost every sentence is dripping with ignorance and ill-informed nonsense.

 

One would correct it, but it would take so long.

If you are going to write that the post is almost 100% wrong, then you should back up your comments with facts to dispute the post, or your interpretation. If you don't, then the ignorance belongs with you.

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, couchpotato said:

If you are going to write that the post is almost 100% wrong, then you should back up your comments with facts to dispute the post, or your interpretation. If you don't, then the ignorance belongs with you.

 

I really can't be bothered, it's just total nonsense.

[Cameroni]

9 hours ago, rickudon said:

Although there is no black and white as to who was lied too and who is right and who is wrong in the Ukraine war,

 

What are you talking about, there is a massive trail of statements by the West going back to 1989 where the West lies to Russia that it would not expand NATO. Russia repeatedly tells the West clearly that it feels threatened by NATO expansion and that Ukraine joining NATO is a red line, that it concerns their national security.  In 2008 at the Bucharest conference NATO reveals Ukraine will become a member. So it was, very clearly, the West that lied to Russia. 

 

10 hours ago, rickudon said:

There was very little negotiation,

 

There have been endless rounds of negotiation with Ukraine. When Ukraine tried to stiff Russia over gas, before that the Russo - Ukrainian friendship Treaty, endless rounds from 2014 to 2022.

 

https://www.declassifieduk.org/lets-just-fight-how-britain-prefers-war-over-peace-in-ukraine/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

 

Of course it's very hard to negotiate when the British prime minister flies in and tells Ukraine "Don't sign, if you do the West will not support Ukraine. We will send you billions and arms, let's just fight".

 

Though of course, it was a miracle that Russia would negotiate at all, since Ukraine had repeatedly ignored the  provisions of any treaty with Russia it agreed to and taken military and  other steps, such as banning Russian social media in Ukraine, to provoke Russians in Ukraine.

 

10 hours ago, rickudon said:

and then a Russian invasion of Crimea and fomenting of an insurrection in the Donbass

 

Russia did not "forment" any insurrection in the Donbass, the civil unrest in the majority Russian Donbass region was a result of the pro West demonstrations in the Western parts of Ukraine, which were gainst the interests of the Russian majority in Donbass. And of course the Crimean invasion was the result of the NATO disclosure in 2008 that Ukraine would join NATO, and the constant provocations of Russia by Ukraine before that, not paying their gas bill, prohibiting Russian websites and social media, etc.

 

10 hours ago, rickudon said:

But the Donbass? Just pure greed.

 

The Donbass is 90% Russian, Kiev had neglected the region so badly that they voted to rejoin the CIS again for the Russian language to be the main language, 90% voted in favour of this. The people of the Donbass wanted to rid themselves of the neglectful and incompetent Ukrainian government.

 

10 hours ago, rickudon said:

Economically, Russia is suffering. It is diverting a large percentage of its GDP to a war economy, but  there military-industrial complex is in disarray, due to corruption, lack of maintenance and sanctions. They are unable to replace many of the weapons they loose; without the help of North Korea, Iran and China, they would be short of ammunition and drones. At current rates of expenditure of weapons, Russia will only have infantry left in 2 years.

 

This is total nonsense on stilts, the Russian economy is NOT a war economy, it is very much a majority civil economy at the moment and the Russian economy is blooming at the moment.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68823399

 

If you are so completely ignorant on basically everything, rickudon, it would be better you don't comment on things you have no information or  do not understand at all.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/8/2024 at 5:44 AM, rickudon said:

As to Russia's standing in the world, it may be abysmal in the west, but the rest of the world doesn't care - like China, there help comes without lectures on Democracy, corruption and human rights. The west, and particularly USA and France, are loosing ground in Africa, because they find it insulting to be lectured too and treated like naughty children. They also see that israel can do no wrong in western eyes, even though they have caused chaos for over 50 years in the middle east.

 

The second half of this century will be very different, just in what way it is hard to say, but not looking good.

As to Russia's standing in the world, it may be abysmal in the west,

 

IMO only to those that support giving all the money to Ukraine and not using it for local people instead.

 

They also see that israel can do no wrong in western eyes, even though they have caused chaos for over 50 years in the middle east.

Ain't that the truth?

 

[BarraMarra]

What a load of crap anyone that launches Missiles into Shopping centers, hospitals, deliberately targeting civilians in apartment blocks infrastructure needs to be stopped at all costs, and before the bleaters come online saying Israel is doing the same as Putin like it or not there targeting areas Hamas are firing Rockets from, civilian areas using there own people as human shields stock piling weapons under hospitals and Mosques and finally the hundred so hostages that remain. They are already dead or will be killed once there use is not needed.   

[Cameroni]

4 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

What a load of crap anyone that launches Missiles into Shopping centers, hospitals, deliberately targeting civilians in apartment blocks infrastructure needs to be stopped at all costs, and before the bleaters come online saying Israel is doing the same as Putin like it or not there targeting areas Hamas are firing Rockets from, civilian areas using there own people as human shields stock piling weapons under hospitals and Mosques and finally the hundred so hostages that remain. They are already dead or will be killed once there use is not needed.   

 

No. That's wrong. And a juvenile approach.

 

Clearly they do not have to be stopped at ALL cost, if the cost is a nuclear war that would destroy the whole planet, then that cost is too high.

 

 

 

[BarraMarra]

Pathetic there will be no Nukes. People like you would hold your hands up and surrender, People like my late father stood up to a bully called Hitler. You do not appease tyrants. Remember the Village in Iraq Saddam Gassed men woman and kids and you want to allow these tyrants Camaroni ?

[rickudon]

Cameroni, if you think Russia is justified in invading Ukraine, murdering civilians and killing Ukrainian POWs, threatening nuclear war, suggest you go back and fight for Russia. Wonderful human rights for those mobiks sent to the meat grinder.

[Cameroni]

4 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Pathetic there will be no Nukes. People like you would hold your hands up and surrender, People like my late father stood up to a bully called Hitler. You do not appease tyrants. Remember the Village in Iraq Saddam Gassed men woman and kids and you want to allow these tyrants Camaroni ?

 

No your later father didn't stand up to Hitler, it was the Russians that stood up to Hitler and stopped him. This worn out narrative that everyone we don't like is a Hitler and if you negotiate you're Chamberlain, blah blah blah, it's a Clown from the past. Just like Saddam was supposedly Hitler and had Weapons of mass destruction, all lies, instigated by NeoCons who wanted a war for their ends. Pathetic are people like you who buy into this nonsense. So that hundreds of thousands of women and children die, for nothing.

[Cameroni]

41 minutes ago, rickudon said:

Cameroni, if you think Russia is justified in invading Ukraine, murdering civilians and killing Ukrainian POWs, threatening nuclear war, suggest you go back and fight for Russia. Wonderful human rights for those mobiks sent to the meat grinder.

 

Of course Russia is justified to invade the Ukraine, the Ukraine issue threatened Russia's national security. Civilians and POWs are sacrosanct. Just as the Ukrainians who committed war crimes in Russia should be punished for it, so should those Russians responsible for such crimes. However, you can take your suggetions and stick them where the sun don't shine.