Trump's Claim of Gaza Visit Draws Scrutiny Amid Factual Discrepancies

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

No. Certainly not in your case. You are one of the truly reasonable and articulate guys on this forum. 

Thanks for that.

 

Other than on Trump we have a lot in common on other subjects, and I often agree with what you have to say.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

And might still be in four years......now that is worrying......especially with a loaded SCOTUS giving him immunity to go after......Google, NYT, opponents...??????

Be afraid, be very afraid. If one believes everything your side says on here, you all will be heading for incarceration.

 

Sarcasm warning, Trump didn't even lock Clinton up, much to my disappointment, so IMO you guys are only fearing what is in your imagination.

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, neeray said:

Just carrying on the discussion that you initiated, After all, this is a discussion forum.

A/ I did not start the thread

 

B/ Best to just stow it if that's all you have.

Is not part of any discussion- it's trying to shut me up- not that it will.

[neeray]

FYI .... It was you who told me "to stow it" in a previous thread. Not trying to "shut you up". Actually, I get a great kick out of the rationale (or lack thereof) of die hard Trumpers.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, neeray said:

FYI .... It was you who told me "to stow it" in a previous thread. Not trying to "shut you up". Actually, I get a great kick out of the rationale (or lack thereof) of die hard Trumpers.

 

I don't say things like that on here, so IMO you have confused me with a different poster. Perhaps you can quote the actual post in question, or I doubt that you are correct.

[neeray]

29 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't say things like that on here, so IMO you have confused me with a different poster. Perhaps you can quote the actual post in question, or I doubt that you are correct.

Yes, you are correct, the "stow it" comment was by somebody else. But unlike Trump, I can admit when I'm wrong and take responsibility, thus, on this point, I give you my apologizes.

[Danderman123]

20 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Wasn't Trump talking about the Middle East when he stated that he's been there ?

In your dreams.

 

“It could be better than Monaco. It has the best location in the Middle East, the best water, the best everything,” Trump responded. “I’ve been there, and it’s rough. It’s a rough place, before the, you know, before all of the attacks and before the back and forth what’s happened over the last couple of years.”

 

Was Trump lying, or just confused? Maybe @thaibeachlovers can tell us.

Edited October 11 by Danderman123

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, neeray said:

Yes, you are correct, the "stow it" comment was by somebody else. But unlike Trump, I can admit when I'm wrong and take responsibility, thus, on this point, I give you my apologizes.

You apology is appreciated and accepted.

 

Never mind Trump, I think you are the first on your "side" to apologise after I call them out for wrong things they say about me. It's not like its a rarity either.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

In your dreams.

 

“It could be better than Monaco. It has the best location in the Middle East, the best water, the best everything,” Trump responded. “I’ve been there, and it’s rough. It’s a rough place, before the, you know, before all of the attacks and before the back and forth what’s happened over the last couple of years.”

 

Was Trump lying, or just confused? Maybe @thaibeachlovers can tell us.

I already gave my take on it. It's not like there are lots of pages, so you have no excuse for not reading all the posts.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/10/2024 at 5:04 PM, Presto said:

That Trump is lying and bragging is nothing new.

The gross aspect of this is that he's talking about Gaza, which is completely in ruins with 1.5 million people displaced, as beach property that could be developed. That guy is beyond despicable. 

By the way, Trump said the same about North Korea. And Jared Kushner has floated the same ideas about Gaza. I'm sure that as part of ethnic cleansing and land grabbing there's some rich Americans just waiting to make a buck there.

Obviously didn't read the OP properly or you'd know that Trump was talking about before the assault on Gaza began.

 

You'd also know that Trump was responding to a question. Blame Hugh Hewitt for asking the question, why don't you?

[candide]

On 10/10/2024 at 4:04 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Not just geographically distinct from israel, it's not and has never been part of modern israel. It was excluded in 1947, and has never become part of israel since.

 

It might have been possible for Trump to have a quick wander over the border in the past without official notification, in the same way as western tourists to israel didn't get an official israeli stamp in their passport, in case they wanted to go work in Saudi, which banned anyone with an israeli stamp in their passport from entering.

 

I'm not saying he did, just that it might have been possible, but probably not as POTUS.

On top of it, Gaza is a popular destination for tourists, and famous for its golf resorts! 🤣

Edited October 11 by candide

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Obviously didn't read the OP properly or you'd know that Trump was talking about before the assault on Gaza began.

 

You'd also know that Trump was responding to a question. Blame Hugh Hewitt for asking the question, why don't you?

Trump stated he went to Gaza.

 

He has never gone to Gaza.

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump stated he went to Gaza.

 

He has never gone to Gaza.

 

   Gaza is in Israel , Trump has been to Israel 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/12/2024 at 12:13 AM, Danderman123 said:

Trump stated he went to Gaza.

 

He has never gone to Gaza.

I thought you didn't believe anything he says anyway, so who cares if he tells another porky?

Lets put it in the same category as HRC claiming she landed under fire in her campaign.

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I thought you didn't believe anything he says anyway, so who cares if he tells another porky?

Lets put it in the same category as HRC claiming she landed under fire in her campaign.

You are correct.

 

Except Hillary shaded the truth, whereas Trump made something up completely. And Trump lies every day.

 

You know he does, but you don't care. Because of that cult thing.

[Danderman123]

On 10/11/2024 at 6:30 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Gaza is in Israel , Trump has been to Israel 

Gaza is not in Israel. 

 

You are confused.

 

More to the point, he talked about Gaza being like Monico. Is Israel like Monico?

Edited October 13 by Danderman123

[0ffshore360]

On 10/11/2024 at 12:48 AM, spidermike007 said:

No. Certainly not in your case. You are one of the truly reasonable and articulate guys on this forum. 

Even if a little politically Deviant when it comes to Trumpeting?

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Gaza is not in Israel. 

 

You are confused.

 

More to the point, he talked about Gaza being like Monico. Is Israel like Monico?

 

   It is , Israel are the occupying force in Gaza .

(You will have to find someone else to talk to about what Trump said about Monaco) 

[still kicking]

On 10/10/2024 at 8:14 AM, theshu25 said:

You can always tell when The orange idiot is lying,   His lips move.

But he is a good dancer

[metisdead]

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[puck2]

On 10/11/2024 at 1:54 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

You apology is appreciated and accepted.

 

Never mind Trump, I think you are the first on your "side" to apologise after I call them out for wrong things they say about me. It's not like its a rarity either.

@neeray wrote:

Yes, you are correct, the "stow it" comment was by somebody else. But unlike Trump, I can admit when I'm wrong and take responsibility, thus, on this point, I give you my apologizes.

 

Concerning @neeray*s coment, you even are not  able to understand irony

 

Edited October 13 by puck2

[spidermike007]

5 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Even if a little politically Deviant when it comes to Trumpeting?

As I've said many times in the past I have major issues with Trump and Vance. I do not have issues with his supporters, I do not have issues with conservatives, I understand why they want to vote for him, I understand that many of the issues they have are different than mine. And that is totally valid. Some of my best friends and some very close family members are conservatives, we have dialogues, and when we discuss politics it is done with mutual affection and respect. 

 

When we start degenerating into a hateful mob, reduced to insults and memes, that's when we really have a problem.

[still kicking]

3 hours ago, puck2 said:

@neeray wrote:

Yes, you are correct, the "stow it" comment was by somebody else. But unlike Trump, I can admit when I'm wrong and take responsibility, thus, on this point, I give you my apologizes.

 

Concerning @neeray*s coment, you even are not  able to understand irony

 

Well he is a Kiwi 

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

As I've said many times in the past I have major issues with Trump and Vance. I do not have issues with his supporters, I do not have issues with conservatives, I understand why they want to vote for him, I understand that many of the issues they have are different than mine. And that is totally valid. Some of my best friends and some very close family members are conservatives, we have dialogues, and when we discuss politics it is done with mutual affection and respect. 

 

When we start degenerating into a hateful mob, reduced to insults and memes, that's when we really have a problem.

Thank you. I appreciate that you are unlike some on here that think it's OK to throw insults around, and keep the invective to Trump instead of fellow posters.

Seems there is always someone that makes a verbal mess of things.

 

Seems we didn't have to wait very long for such.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, puck2 said:

@neeray wrote:

Yes, you are correct, the "stow it" comment was by somebody else. But unlike Trump, I can admit when I'm wrong and take responsibility, thus, on this point, I give you my apologizes.

 

Concerning @neeray*s coment, you even are not  able to understand irony

 

Given I can no longer be bothered to comment on such posts, I'll just "irony" you out of my sight. Bye.

[Danderman123]

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It is , Israel are the occupying force in Gaza .

(You will have to find someone else to talk to about what Trump said about Monaco) 

Trump said he went to Gaza.

 

Do you believe him?

[thaibeachlovers]

31 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump said he went to Gaza.

 

Do you believe him?

Does it matter if he did or didn't?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Does it matter if he did or didn't?

It matters that he lies.

 

And it matters that he often has no idea where he is.

 

His latest trashing of Detroit while in Detroit speaking to the people of Detroit being just one example.

[Tug]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Does it matter if he did or didn't?

Yes it does we don’t want or need a person who is not capable of being truthful you should know this he has no integrity whatsoever none nada zip.

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Does it matter if he did or didn't?

Do you think it's okay for politicians to distort reality?