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When Kamala Harris refused to seek the death penalty against a gang member accused of killing a police officer nearly two decades ago, she stood firm in her opposition, even under immense pressure. Dianne Feinstein, then a Democratic senator, called for the death penalty at the officer’s funeral, receiving a standing ovation. Yet Harris, only 39 at the time and the first female district attorney in San Francisco, remained steadfast. “There can be no exception to principle,” Harris wrote in a 2004 op-ed, vowing to honor her opposition to capital punishment, regardless of the emotional weight of the case.

 

Just four years later, however, Harris adjusted her stance as she announced her run for California attorney general. Though she personally opposed the death penalty, she pledged to “enforce the death penalty as the law dictates” if elected. This shift in position is just one example of the challenges Harris has faced as she walks the line between a tough-on-crime prosecutor and a progressive politician.

 

Her critics often label her as inconsistent, with Republican Senator JD Vance even calling her “a chameleon.” Supporters, however, argue that Harris is willing to evolve when faced with new evidence. As Brendon Woods, Oakland’s top public defender, put it, “I think people can evolve, and I think that’s what she’s done.”

 

Throughout her career, Harris has had to navigate complex and often contradictory expectations. As attorney general, she advocated for enforcing laws that penalized parents of chronically truant children but later expressed regret, saying that prosecuting parents was never the law’s intention. During her time as California’s top prosecutor, she introduced programs that required body cameras for special agents but stopped short of endorsing statewide regulations. After George Floyd’s murder, she supported independent investigations into police misconduct but had declined to provide such scrutiny for controversial police shootings while serving as attorney general. 

 

Critics argue that Harris could have done more to support criminal justice reforms, particularly after high-profile police shootings in Los Angeles and Anaheim, where she chose not to launch independent investigations. Despite the criticism, Harris’s supporters acknowledge her role in shaping laws that now require the attorney general’s involvement in investigating fatal police shootings. As Assemblyman Kevin McCarty, who had once criticized Harris for not doing enough, later said, “I applaud Kamala Harris for helping lay the foundation to make this a reality.”

 

While Harris has faced scrutiny over her changing positions, she maintains that her values have remained consistent. Asked about her shifting stances, she said, “My values have not changed.” Her campaign spokesperson, James Singer, added, “Kamala Harris has fought to protect people and hold bad actors accountable.”

 

Based on a report from CNN 2024-10-15

 

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1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

I have a lot of issues with many of the policies that Harris had as Attorney General of California. However the important thing to realize here is that the death penalty is not a functional punishment in California, the appeals process can take as long as 30 years and it can cost the state as much as 60 million dollars for one inmate, during that appeals process.

 

The second thing to consider here is that you cannot discuss Harris's past without discussing Trump's past, the draft deferrments, the five huge bankruptcies, the Trump University thefts, the felonies that he's been convicted of, and the billions of dollars that he's stolen from small contractors. There has to be some equivocation here. We are talking about an attorney general who made some bad decisions, versus a career criminal and a morally bankrupt grifter, who is one of the greatest scam artists who has attempted to seek the office of the presidency. 

Totally agree with these statements - neither is qualified IMHO to be any elected official, let alone the President of the USA!

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Only idiots are always right, never experiencing a change of heart or mind during their whole life.

Good leaders must have the ability to change opinion, which is possible only if they have the ability to listen.

 

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No mention of the mother she had arrested for her daughter missing so many days off school- the girl was in hospital most of the time. Mother lost her job and home over it.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

And as is common, a discussion of the VP turns, in the very first response, into a "b-b-but Trump!" bitchfest. THe man truly lives rent free in so many places. No wonder he is a real estate genius. 

Haggie this is discussion about presidential a presidential candidate to compare is obviously the most natural thing to do.Especially when the apposing candidate is as flawed as Mr trump the twice impeached 34 times convicted felon who tryed to pull of a coup wants to suspend the constitution…….

3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

He clearly is a genius, if the number of rent-free spaces he can enjoy is any indication. Including yours apparently. 

If your country was under threat of a mentally ill felon wouldn’t you try to defend it?or would you just let it slide?

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1 hour ago, Snackbar said:

The Starmer School of principals

 

Say whatever ya told to say, regardless 

 

Harris is a weak dummy

Attorney,DA,AG,SENATOR,VICE PRESIDENT……all achieved by a woman growing up in a single parent household of modest means……..I dono  snack bar that’s  one smart charismatic dummy   Healthy to!

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Just four years later, however, Harris adjusted her stance

 

What a shock, she is so steadfast and principled normally. Her values never change.

 

This little snippet of an article does not examine her records as a prosecutor in detail, if you do that you'll really be filled with wonder how this person is a candidate for president.

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23 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Apparently as part of he attempt to reach out and appeal to black men, she wants to legalize marijuana and involve them in the  new industry that results. I wonder if the ones she sent to prison want to become a partner with her in an organized drug syndicate? LOL You can't make stufff like this up.

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/13/nx-s1-5151968/harris-weed-crypto

 

 

I trust you don’t live in Thailand where this drug went from being highly illegal to a successful and legalized business overnight.

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2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

But you are not comparing. You are just using it as another opportunity to sling mud at the guy you don't like. Which is fine, but it's not as if there are not 426 OTHER threads to do that. You didn't even address the topic, just got right on to the character assassination. 

 

My country is not under threat from a mentally ill felon, but neither is yours. Mine IS being governed by an empty suit, an idealistic non-entity who parlayed good looks and a famous last name into poltical power. And we have been paying the price ever since. Now, my cousins to the south are in a similar situation. One of their options is also an empty (pant)suit, an idealist with little political depth who is trying to parlay her gender and race into political power. 

To zero in specifically on the thread being a DA is bound to make you unpopular it’s a task that puts people behind bars as far as her decision not to seek the death penalty in the case of the cop killer tho I disagree I do commend her for keeping her campaign promise of not backing the death penalty.Mrs Harris is an accomplished jurist and has risen to the pinnacle of her profession far from an (empty suit) im not sure I’m buying the Canadian enuendo perhaps the longitude is a bit off …..to much backing of the common enemy….

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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I trust you don’t live in Thailand where this drug went from being highly illegal to a successful and legalized business overnight.

 

Thats how it happens everywhere. It is illegal until it's not. So she was basically on the wrong side of history and boasts about how tough she was and is now offering jobs to black people to deal drugs. Got it.

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10 hours ago, Tug said:

Attorney,DA,AG,SENATOR,VICE PRESIDENT……all achieved by a woman growing up in a single parent household of modest means……..I dono  snack bar that’s  one smart charismatic dummy   Healthy to!

She did not earn those position... She screwed her way to them with a married man

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/who-is-willie-brown-what-role-did-kamala-harris-former-lover-play-in-her-career/articleshow/112168665.cms

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7 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Thats how it happens everywhere. It is illegal until it's not. So she was basically on the wrong side of history and boasts about how tough she was and is now offering jobs to black people to deal drugs. Got it.

She’s on the wrong side of history for wanting to legalize a drug she didn’t legislate to make illegal?

 

Or are you criticizing her for upholding the law when it was her job to prosecute people who broke the laws that she did not legislate into being?

 

 

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