New Guidelines Introduced for Safer School Trips

[MikeandDow]

2 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

I want to believe that, but after going to the RTP station for 3 different accidents in my car, and one in my wife's car. The RTP officer in charge sided with us on all four incidents, at least the traffic officer in charge definitely knows the laws and applied them correctly. So either they only have a few officers with enough knowledge of the Thai laws, or they are blatantly ignoring the lawbreaking, and refusing to do their jobs.

I think you were lucky to find a RTP who new the Law, in my experience they just blatantly do not want to their job,  take the easy way out

[lordgrinz]

Just now, MikeandDow said:

I think you were lucky to find a RTP who new the Law, in my experience they just blatantly do not want to their job,  take the easy way out

 

Each time I brought dashcam footage, so they really couldn't say much, but they still had to understand the law to apply it correctly.

[MikeandDow]

6 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Each time I brought dashcam footage, so they really couldn't say much, but they still had to understand the law to apply it correctly.

All very well but this is going off topic

I wonder why Thai hospitals have ISO certification and schools don't

By implementing ISO 45001:2018 certification, you receive proof of your organizations ongoing commitment to the health and safety. do schools have a safety officer ??

[lordgrinz]

1 minute ago, MikeandDow said:

All very well but this is going off topic

I wonder why Thai hospitals have ISO certification and schools don't

By implementing ISO 45001:2018 certification, you receive proof of your organizations ongoing commitment to the health and safety. do schools have a safety officer ??

 

When I complained about an issue with seatbelts disabled on a school minibus at my daughters school, they didn't seem to have a safety officer, so I would say "no".

[Will B Good]

On 10/15/2024 at 8:59 AM, webfact said:

The guidelines include requirements for vehicle inspections, the presence of parents for younger students, limiting travel to nearby locations, providing travel insurance, conducting emergency drills, and securing official permission at least three days before a trip. Provincial private education offices have also been instructed to review trips and cancel any deemed unsafe.

 

Vehicle inspections...... weren't they already in place?

 

The presence of parents will achieve what?

 

Limiting travel distances could help reduce risks slightly

 

Travel insurance will help how?

 

Emergency drill....good idea if done properly and regularly

 

Official permission? People were just taking kids away?

 

Review and cancel......good idea if they know what they are doing.

 

Let's prey whatever they do....... the children will be safe(r).

[MikeandDow]

3 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

When I complained about an issue with seatbelts disabled on a school minibus at my daughters school, they didn't seem to have a safety officer, so I would say "no".

 Think that needs to change especially with kids involved, again this is lack of enforcement and training  Schools are the perfect place for kids to be aware of safety

[MikeandDow]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Vehicle inspections...... weren't they already in place?

 

The presence of parents will achieve what?

 

Limiting travel distances could help reduce risks slightly

 

Travel insurance will help how?

 

Emergency drill....good idea if done properly and regularly

 

Official permission? People were just taking kids away?

 

Review and cancel......good idea if they know what they are doing.

 

Let's prey whatever they do....... the children will be safe(r).

Agree but also Note these are only guidelines NOT mandatory can be ignored  

[Will B Good]

Just now, MikeandDow said:

Agree but also Note these are only guidelines NOT mandatory can be ignored  

 

Good point....and subject to the usual lubrication?

[chickenslegs]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

The presence of parents will achieve what?

I just selected part of your post for my reply, but I understand and agree with what you are saying overall.

As far as I can tell, there were just 6 staff members looking after about 30 kids aged 4-14. That does not seem like sufficient staff to evacuate a bus in an emergency.

Maybe recruiting some parents to help is not a bad idea.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, chickenslegs said:

I just selected part of your post for my reply, but I understand and agree with what you are saying overall.

As far as I can tell, there were just 6 staff members looking after about 30 kids aged 4-14. That does not seem like sufficient staff to evacuate a bus in an emergency.

Maybe recruiting some parents to help is not a bad idea.

 

 

Staffing ratios should be fixed (UK is, or used to be 8:1, unless it is a term-time ski trip then management have to go and it drops to 1:1).....parents cannot be counted as part of the staffing ratio......it is recognised that in any traumatic event they will focus on one thing only....their own child/children.....but they can certainly go and help....but they cannot be counted upon come the crunch.

 

 

 

[MikeandDow]

Bus company's By Thai Law  are supposed to have a Safety officer What is this guy doing he is the one ultimately responsible

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, MikeandDow said:

Bus company's By Thai Law  are supposed to have a Safety officer What is this guy doing he is the one ultimately responsible

 

 

Feet up, opening envelopes I imagine......or he was.

[lordgrinz]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Feet up, opening envelopes I imagine......or he was.

 

Those were the only qualifications for the job, well that and sending a certain cut of the money up the chain of command.

[MikeandDow]

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Feet up, opening envelopes I imagine......or he was.

 Well it will be business as usual  nothing will be heard of again