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[Georgealbert]

 

 

A fatal incident involving multiple vehicles occurred on Rama 2 Road, inbound towards Bangkok, near the Phanthai Chili Paste factory in Muang District, Samut Sakhon. The crash involved two 10-wheeler trucks and a pickup truck.

 

The crash which occurred at 18.50 on October 17, resulted in the death of a 10 year old girl, who was a passenger in the pickup. Three other people were injured, including the driver of one of the trucks and the pickup driver, plus a passenger in one of the trucks, an 8 year old boy. Rescue teams from the Poh Teck Tung Foundation and emergency personnel worked quickly at the scene, extricating the victims from the wreckage.

 

 

According to initial reports, the pickup travelling at speed and attempting to weave through traffic and undertaking, collided with the back of the truck causing a chain reaction with the truck dragging the pickup and slamming into the second 10-wheeler. 

 

Emergency services rushed to the scene to assist the injured, who were trapped inside their vehicles. The injured drivers and the 8 year old boy were transported to Mahachai Hospital for treatment, while the young girl’s body was taken to Samut Sakhon Hospital.

 

Police investigations are ongoing.

 

Picture from responders and dash-cam footage below.

-- 2024-10-18

 

 

 

 

[ChrisY1]

Excellent driving skills on display!

I travel the Cha Am--BKK nightmare regularly....drivers like this lunatic, are everywhere...and it's almost always pick-up delivery vehicles....exactly the same as this example.

[NE1]

It's usually the ones with the high sides, we call them Market or Vegetable trucks.

Either going like the clappers to get to market or get back for a second load.

[kcpattaya]

I hope the driver of the pickup will meet with Karma soon...
Perhaps he already did if the 10-year-old was his daughter.
RIP for her senseless death.

[brianthainess]

4 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

According to initial reports, the pickup travelling at speed and attempting to weave through traffic and undertaking,

Just normal Thai driving, and with a child on board. Go anywhere on any highway this is how they drive. RIP young girl.

[hotchilli]

8 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

According to initial reports, the pickup travelling at speed and attempting to weave through traffic and undertaking, collided with the back of the truck causing a chain reaction with the truck dragging the pickup and slamming into the second 10-wheeler. 

And there you have it... 

[kwilco]

6 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Excellent driving skills on display!

I travel the Cha Am--BKK nightmare regularly....drivers like this lunatic, are everywhere...and it's almost always pick-up delivery vehicles....exactly the same as this example.

Not helpful.....just shows how you haven't acclimatised ti driving in Thailand..

The number of deaths in 4 wheeled vehicles per 200k is about the same or slightly less than in the US..

[cardinalblue]

Weaving  thru traffic at speed is all you need to know….hold the driver for involuntary manslaughter at  the least….probably a relative 

 

need to make an example of him for training purposes

[steve187]

2 hours ago, kwilco said:

Not helpful.....just shows how you haven't acclimatised ti driving in Thailand..

The number of deaths in 4 wheeled vehicles per 200k is about the same or slightly less than in the US..

so are you saying US drivers are dangerous drivers as well, that clip shows that Thai drivers have no concerns about road safety.

what about children's car safety seat law, i wonder if there has ever been a prosecution or enforcement

[Will B Good]

 

 

See that  kind of driving all day every day on route 6.....and you (I) get drawn into do the same as there is no lane discipline.

 

Lorries in the fast lane doing 40mph, cars in the middle lane 30mph and never ever changing lanes.....just sit there.

[realfunster]

3 hours ago, kwilco said:

Not helpful.....just shows how you haven't acclimatised ti driving in Thailand..

The number of deaths in 4 wheeled vehicles per 200k is about the same or slightly less than in the US..

 

How do you know he has not acclimatised to Thai driving ?

 

I have been driving here 20 years, consider myself acclimatised and would call the driving in the clip objectively idiotic and reckless...the fact it is the sort of driving we will fairly regularly observe is by the by. It is still idiotic and reckless.

 

It's about time they changed the Thai driving code to ban undertaking, which (IIRC) is allowed on dual carriageways and above here. You can see the occasional outcome of this in the clip, a fast moving undertaking vehicle mixing with slow traffic in the inside lane. 

 

 

[kwilco]

6 hours ago, steve187 said:

so are you saying US drivers are dangerous drivers as well, that clip shows that Thai drivers have no concerns about road safety.

what about children's car safety seat law, i wonder if there has ever been a prosecution or enforcement

 

You are saying you don't understand the first thing about road safety so you just pick up random issues because you think it makes it look like you do.

[kwilco]

4 hours ago, realfunster said:

 

How do you know he has not acclimatised to Thai driving ?

 

I have been driving here 20 years, consider myself acclimatised and would call the driving in the clip objectively idiotic and reckless...the fact it is the sort of driving we will fairly regularly observe is by the by. It is still idiotic and reckless.

 

It's about time they changed the Thai driving code to ban undertaking, which (IIRC) is allowed on dual carriageways and above here. You can see the occasional outcome of this in the clip, a fast moving undertaking vehicle mixing with slow traffic in the inside lane. 

 

 

Clearly you haven't - there are so many people who have resided in Thailand for a long time and even before moving here didn't know a thing about road safety - they think they are superb drivers and all Thai people are inferior - this is simply racism.

If you think it's possible to change the situation in Thailand by cherry-picking a few issues then you don't even begin to understand.

Like so many racists, you refer to "third person plurals" to make sweeping stereotypes that insult Thai people and re-inforce you own feelings of superiority.

[kwilco]

6 hours ago, steve187 said:

so are you saying US drivers are dangerous drivers as well,

 

THis shows you are completely out of touch with what is road safery - you just think that it's down to "driver" - you can't even begin to understand.

[lordgrinz]

Typical Thai driver, I could make videos all day long with hundreds of insane maneuvers, Thai's lack any kind of road safety discipline. This is what lack of drivers training, and lack of any road testing brings, add no enforcement of laws to the mix and you have one of the highest road death/injury rates in the World.

[kwilco]

Why do people think they are “experts” on things they know nothing about.

(Why do they keep trying to use that word as a derogatory term or erroneous concept?)

 

…… If they drive a car they think they are "experts" on driving,

….. because they went to school they are "experts" on education

……. and because they have been in hospital they think they are "experts" on health care?

 

Many people mistake their personal experience with these topics as way more informative than it really is. They mistake the significance of personal experience (of bad habits) as a general overview of a topic far more complex than they ever conceive.

 

It is important to be aware of the cognitive biases that can lead people to overestimate their knowledge and abilities. If you find yourself thinking that you are an expert on something you know little about, it is important to take a step back and assess your knowledge critically. You may be surprised at how little you actually know.

 

Here are examples of the cognitive biases that lead to the nonsense promulgated on this thread.

 

The Dunning-Kruger effect is when people with limited knowledge in a particular area overestimate their abilities in that area. Because they lack the knowledge and experience to actually understand how much they don't know. For instance they may think they can’t be a backseat driver because they have a driving licence

 

Confirmation bias is when people  seek out only information that confirms their existing beliefs, and ignore or dismiss information that contradicts those beliefs.

These people to believe that they are experts on a topic even if they have only superficial knowledge of it.. They are often “one quote wonders” – e,g,, someone who believes that vaccines cause autism will only seek out information that supports that belief, and they might ignore or dismiss any evidence to the contrary.

 

The “availability heuristic” is a mental shortcut that we use to make judgments about the likelihood of something happening based on how easily examples of it come to mind. Or how often they see them on YouTube etc….. This leads people to overestimate their own expertise and they don’t realise the relative insignificance of the few examples or the  times when they appeared to get it right. For example, someone who has successfully driven a car a few times might think they are an expert driver, even all they have done is driven a lot of miles or never had an accident themselves. They are like someone who backs a winner in the Derby horse race and then claims they are an expert on horse racing.

All this sees the same false syllogism repeated all over threads on road safety…..

 

The false syllogism goes thus……

Premise 1: There are frequent road accidents in Thailand.

Premise 2: Most of the people involved in these accidents are Thai.

Conclusion: Therefore, all Thai people are bad drivers, and by contrast, Westerners are good drivers

 

Total racist rubbish – but it also prevents people from taking an objective viewpoint on road safety in Thailand.

[kwilco]

7 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

Typical Thai driver, I could make videos all day long with hundreds of insane maneuvers, Thai's lack any kind of road safety discipline. This is what lack of drivers training, and lack of any road testing brings, add no enforcement of laws to the mix and you have one of the highest road death/injury rates in the World.

 

You just don't geddit - there are videos all over the world of that. In fact it just shows how uncritical you are of what you see (search for, even) on line.

You don't understand "big number" or how to get an accurate overview by using statistics - in fact you just don't have the education to grasp the basics here - there are several millions of road users in Thailand trying to make naive, childish conclusions because of what you, one person has seen just shows how little you understand - I bet left to your own devices, you'd think the world was flat.

 

[lordgrinz]

5 hours ago, realfunster said:

 

How do you know he has not acclimatised to Thai driving ?

 

I have been driving here 20 years, consider myself acclimatised and would call the driving in the clip objectively idiotic and reckless...the fact it is the sort of driving we will fairly regularly observe is by the by. It is still idiotic and reckless.

 

It's about time they changed the Thai driving code to ban undertaking, which (IIRC) is allowed on dual carriageways and above here. You can see the occasional outcome of this in the clip, a fast moving undertaking vehicle mixing with slow traffic in the inside lane. 

 

 

 

You can change Thai Driving Code all you want, they just ignore all road rules and laws, they won't even stop for a Red light or a STOP sign. They drive straight through Zebra crossing with pedestrians inside them, they pass over solid yellow lines, they pass over hash mark areas, they park completely blocking traffic lanes, they park completely blocking Zebra crossings, they park and drive on the sidewalks, they drive in the wrong direction. There is no way any new driving codes would do anything, the only thing that will work is proper training/testing, and enforcement by the useless entity known as the RTP (Royal Thai Mafia). 

Edited 1 hour ago by lordgrinz