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[snoop1130]

 

Immigration officers at Phuket International Airport apprehended a 35 year old Uzbek man on allegations of using forged stamps. The arrest occurred at the international arrivals hall around 9pm yesterday, October 23.

 

A team from the Phuket Immigration Bureau, acting on the orders of Police Major General Chengron Rimphidi, Commander of Immigration Bureau 2, carried out the operation, according to an online report by immigration officers at the airport.

 

The officers involved in the arrest included Police Colonel Rungroj Nilamongkol, Deputy Commander of Immigration Bureau 2, and Police Colonel Atisak Panya, Superintendent of Immigration Bureau 2.

 

The investigation, led by Police Lieutenant Colonel Akkaraphon Keawkiattiyot and Senior Sergeant Major Aksorn Chawkamkhet from the Phuket Immigration Checkpoint, detained the suspect on charges of using a forged seal, stamp, or stamping sheet, as confirmed by the report.

 

The Uzbek man was taken into custody at the airport and subsequently transferred to Sakhu Police Station for further legal proceedings, reported The Phuket News.

 

The suspect’s name was not disclosed in the report, and the specific stamps in the passport that were allegedly forged were not detailed.

 

In related news, the Thai police arrested three agency operators for forging documents to submit visa applications to various embassies, seizing numerous counterfeit items. The suspects confessed to their crimes and are now facing legal proceedings.

 

At 11am on May 28, at the Immigration Office in Mueang Thong Thani, Deputy Commander-in-Chief Panthana Nuchnarot, along with Deputy Commander-in-Chief Ratchachot Chotikoon and other relevant officers, announced the results of an investigation coordinated with several embassies in Thailand.

 

These embassies had raised suspicions that hundreds of Thai nationals applying for visas to European countries were submitting fake documents. Upon receiving these concerns, the Immigration Bureau’s specialised unit was instructed to verify the documents.

 

The investigation revealed that many of the documents submitted by Thai applicants, such as employment certificates, bank statements, and financial endorsements, were counterfeit.

 

By Bright Choomanee

Picture courtesy of Phuket Airport Immigration

 

Source: The Thaiger

-- 2024-10-24

 

 

[Middle Aged Grouch]

It's also the current Immigration system and hassles that can encourage dishonest agents to fraud. Other countries in Asia do not make so much fuss with their immigration rules.

[watchcat]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thai police arrested three agency operators for forging documents to submit visa applications to various embassies, seizing numerous counterfeit items.

 

Good. get rid of the agents.

[hotchilli]

6 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

Good. get rid of the agents.

Agreed.....

[RichardColeman]

41 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

Good. get rid of the agents.

Many of the people I know use agents - probably 95% actually.

 

Your suggestion of getting rid of agents will mean destitution for most of them, no money for family , wife, kids etc. Suggesting this is an insult to many of them

 

If you want rid of agents, then at least make marriage mean a path to citizenship 

 

 

 

[Andrew65]

I had a few old frends who had paid 30k Baht to get visas for Thai girlfriends who had previously been refused them.

[watchcat]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

f you want rid of agents, then at least make marriage mean a path to citizenship 

 

That's up to the imigration or higher up.

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Your suggestion of getting rid of agents will mean destitution for most of them, no money for family , wife, kids etc.

 

Same as your suggestion about  marriage and citizenship.

[newbee2022]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Many of the people I know use agents - probably 95% actually.

 

Your suggestion of getting rid of agents will mean destitution for most of them, no money for family , wife, kids etc. Suggesting this is an insult to many of them

 

If you want rid of agents, then at least make marriage mean a path to citizenship 

 

 

 

95% of people you know use an agent???? Really,?😳

But tell me why???

I can't see any reason to use an agent!

Please, tell me, because your post did not clarify anything.

[watchcat]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

I can't see any reason to use an agent!

 

If you can't show 400K/800K in other word skint, you can use an agent to fix this. Highly illegal in my opinion.

[black tabby12345]

Fake High-Brand goods for locals.

False official stamps for aliens.

Both of them with the Same-Same roots?

 

[Olmate]

33 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

If you can't show 400K/800K in other word skint, you can use an agent to fix this. Highly illegal in my opinion.

Your opinion dont mean jack cat! 

[Andre0720]

2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

95% of people you know use an agent???? Really,?😳

But tell me why???

I can't see any reason to use an agent!

Please, tell me, because your post did not clarify anything.

If you cannot see any reason to use an agent, this does not mean that there are no good reasons to do so.

Every time such a post is raised, some people will ask to be educated on the subject. But it has been done so many times already...

[watchcat]

24 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Your opinion dont mean jack cat! 

 

Well it is illegal if it would end up in court, like it or not.

[Olmate]

18 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

Well it is illegal if it would end up in court, like it or not.

Its not illegal to borrow 400k/800k bht from anagent  cat,  best get some facts right before sharing your ill informed opinions! 

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, Andre0720 said:

If you cannot see any reason to use an agent, this does not mean that there are no good reasons to do so.

Every time such a post is raised, some people will ask to be educated on the subject. But it has been done so many times already...

So, YOU can't give any reason? Why do you post it then? Looking for attention 😂🤗😁

[newbee2022]

2 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

If you can't show 400K/800K in other word skint, you can use an agent to fix this. Highly illegal in my opinion.

Not only YOUR opinion. Everybody who goes that way is with one of already back home/jail. Obviously not the brightest candles.

[Olmate]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Not only YOUR opinion. Everybody who goes that way is with one of already back home/jail. Obviously not the brightest candles.

 Seems you already need a leg up for next years extension, stiff titties, rates go up for newbies😭

[newbee2022]

39 minutes ago, Olmate said:

 Seems you already need a leg up for next years extension, stiff titties, rates go up for newbies😭

???? What????😳

[nahkit]

Looking at the photo it appears it was bring your child to work day.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, watchcat said:

8 hours ago, Olmate said:

Your opinion dont mean jack cat! 

 

Well it is illegal if it would end up in court, like it or not.

And that has been reported as happening precisely zero times in god knows how many decades.

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Everybody who goes that way is with one of already back home/jail.

Huh?  Could you put that in intelligible English?

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Not only YOUR opinion. Everybody who goes that way is with one of already back home/jail. Obviously not the brightest candles.

"Obviously not the brightest candles".

You said it.

[Andre0720]

20 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

So, YOU can't give any reason? Why do you post it then? Looking for attention 😂🤗😁

Well it gave you a chance to look it up for yourself, as I wrote that reasons were explained many times in the past.

So since you are not one of the brightest candles, I will go ahead and educate you as well, by re-posting ONE of the numerous informational posts on this subject... 

 

"

Well, re-posting this, again, for you sir....

 

"

Re-posting this one here... Seems like you might need this knowledge as well.....  

"Well yes, in this land, situations are mostly related to money and territory.  

I am located in Phuket, and there are many Agents who offer a service of dealing with an IO on a customer behalf, for a fee. And this fee is shared between the Agent, and at a very high level at the IO, then further shared...

And strangely, some of the Agents are able to conduct their business directly with the local IO, while others go through a remote IO, such as Nakhon Sawan, Krabi or Trang or.... Now why is that, I have no idea. Appears like Agents must be 'accredited' for the use of such a service at a given IO.

And those Agents who appear to not be able to be accredited locally here, are always able to find a remote IO that is willing to offer such a service to Agents.

But the consequence of getting a 'retirement extension' from a remote location, would mean that the IO doing a 90 day for example, would be required to do that 'free' work, while knowing very well that a non-local IO got a share of the money for the initial 'extension' work. Not happy with that.

So some Agents who deal with a non-local IO, for whatever reason, will offer a free service of obtaining all 90 day reports from the IO that was used to obtain the 'retirement visa'. This of course would entail having to send the passport again and again through mail to obtain the 90 day stamps.

Something that of course anyone would like to avoid. An IO can tell what process was originally used to obtain a service, through a quick glance at the passport. That is what they do for a living. A few seconds will do it...  

And to add to the complexity of this situation, once a foreigner has used an Agent, the IO will try as they can to keep this individual to keep on putting money in the system. Lots of money in there. Trying to do further 'retirement extensions' on your own, at the lower fee of course, will get you to be faced with all sorts of problems, being raised by the IO, to make the process as long and difficult as possible. With the aim of breaking you down and getting you back at an Agent's office, and paying the bigger fee. If one is intent on not paying for an Agent, make sure that your income taxes are in order in your country, make sure that your embassy will offer a service of confirming your income, and accept to be patient time and time again when you are told that "Oh, the for that you used is an out-dated one. Use this one, and come back some other day.....

 

I was initially forced to go see an Agent, after the onset of the Covid era, with airport closed here, borders of neighboring countries closed, so not being able to leave the country to extend my OA visa, and not being able to stay in the country, as my visa would soon expire. 2019, 2020.

When I explained that at the IO, I was told that there was nothing that they could do. The law was written this way.

Then I was told in a whisper, go see an Agent, they will fix it up for you.

And Agent, Oh yes."

 

Was either using an 'Agent', or becoming an illegal in Thailand, and NOT becoming an illegal through the use of an 'Agent'. So the use of an 'Agent" is the opposite of what some people, out of ignorance, have come to believe.

[newbee2022]

31 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

Well it gave you a chance to look it up for yourself, as I wrote that reasons were explained many times in the past.

So since you are not one of the brightest candles, I will go ahead and educate you as well, by re-posting ONE of the numerous informational posts on this subject... 

 

"

Well, re-posting this, again, for you sir....

 

"

Re-posting this one here... Seems like you might need this knowledge as well.....  

"Well yes, in this land, situations are mostly related to money and territory.  

I am located in Phuket, and there are many Agents who offer a service of dealing with an IO on a customer behalf, for a fee. And this fee is shared between the Agent, and at a very high level at the IO, then further shared...

And strangely, some of the Agents are able to conduct their business directly with the local IO, while others go through a remote IO, such as Nakhon Sawan, Krabi or Trang or.... Now why is that, I have no idea. Appears like Agents must be 'accredited' for the use of such a service at a given IO.

And those Agents who appear to not be able to be accredited locally here, are always able to find a remote IO that is willing to offer such a service to Agents.

But the consequence of getting a 'retirement extension' from a remote location, would mean that the IO doing a 90 day for example, would be required to do that 'free' work, while knowing very well that a non-local IO got a share of the money for the initial 'extension' work. Not happy with that.

So some Agents who deal with a non-local IO, for whatever reason, will offer a free service of obtaining all 90 day reports from the IO that was used to obtain the 'retirement visa'. This of course would entail having to send the passport again and again through mail to obtain the 90 day stamps.

Something that of course anyone would like to avoid. An IO can tell what process was originally used to obtain a service, through a quick glance at the passport. That is what they do for a living. A few seconds will do it...  

And to add to the complexity of this situation, once a foreigner has used an Agent, the IO will try as they can to keep this individual to keep on putting money in the system. Lots of money in there. Trying to do further 'retirement extensions' on your own, at the lower fee of course, will get you to be faced with all sorts of problems, being raised by the IO, to make the process as long and difficult as possible. With the aim of breaking you down and getting you back at an Agent's office, and paying the bigger fee. If one is intent on not paying for an Agent, make sure that your income taxes are in order in your country, make sure that your embassy will offer a service of confirming your income, and accept to be patient time and time again when you are told that "Oh, the for that you used is an out-dated one. Use this one, and come back some other day.....

 

I was initially forced to go see an Agent, after the onset of the Covid era, with airport closed here, borders of neighboring countries closed, so not being able to leave the country to extend my OA visa, and not being able to stay in the country, as my visa would soon expire. 2019, 2020.

When I explained that at the IO, I was told that there was nothing that they could do. The law was written this way.

Then I was told in a whisper, go see an Agent, they will fix it up for you.

And Agent, Oh yes."

 

Was either using an 'Agent', or becoming an illegal in Thailand, and NOT becoming an illegal through the use of an 'Agent'. So the use of an 'Agent" is the opposite of what some people, out of ignorance, have come to believe.

Nice elaborate. And it took days to write. I'm pleased, indeed.

What I learned is you try to find excuses to use an agent by drifting into illegality. 

Not my cup of tea. But if you like it... it's up to you.

[stevenl]

21 hours ago, Olmate said:

Its not illegal to borrow 400k/800k bht from anagent  cat,  best get some facts right before sharing your ill informed opinions! 

Correct. How about keeping it in your name in the bank for the required amount of time?

[Olmate]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Correct. How about keeping it in your name in the bank for the required amount of time?

Correct, thanks for the tip! It is kept in my name and BB  bank a/c for the required time, hence the ext. is approved annually no fuss!