Let The Fraud Begin

[radiochaser]

  On 11/5/2024 at 3:46 AM, Yellowtail said:

So what happens when it is sent to voter register to process? 

Really? 

As I understand it, you check yes that you want to be registered, they notify voter registration, and voter registration registers you. 

 

It's the same if you check that you want to be an organ donor, they don't register you as an organ doner either, they notify the organ doner department, and they register you. 

 

 

 

 

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Actually, the reason my brother in law and his wife were getting their licenses, is because the DMV told them, I was there, that they needed to return when they had their green cards before they would be issued drivers licenses.   So DMV knew that they were not U.S. citizens. 

 

As for organ donor status, I think I did check a box about that.   

[Dan O]

  On 11/5/2024 at 3:45 AM, radiochaser said:

 .. .and then, a few days later, the voter registrars office sends you a voter registration card to the address you gave to the DMV!

You really have no clue!   

 

This, if you read it, is what I copied and pasted from one of the links! 

 

"Pennsylvania’s new system is most akin to the front-end system: The registration is automatic and takes the onus off of the voter, but is not instantaneous like in some states." 

 

You can register to vote at the DMV, if you already have a license or ID card.  A person such as a high school student that has a license at 16 but not registered to vote, can go to the DMV instead of driving half an hour or more, up to Doylestown to register at the registrars office there!   

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You are deflecting from your original comments. If you cant understand what you read i cant help you. Making a selection that you want to vote is not the same as registering. the registration office must do the registration in their data base. You claimed you were never asked at dmv and that bs. Stick to the fact you claimed and stop changing what happened

[transam]

  On 11/5/2024 at 2:59 AM, Yellowtail said:

So now, because you got caught making stuff up that you are not able to support with facts, you change the subject to (apparently) voter fraud is okay, as long as it's not massive. 

 

Again, you must be a Harris supporter, yes? 

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I hope he is, after 'your' Trumps diabolical, ridiculous, anti-democratic and embarrassing charade of a campaign, you should yourself feel embarrassed to even post.....😬

[radiochaser]

  On 11/5/2024 at 3:48 AM, Yellowtail said:

But but but that's a different window! 

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I just go to what ever window they announce.  Number 574 window B2!

[Dan O]

  On 11/5/2024 at 3:46 AM, Yellowtail said:

So what happens when it is sent to voter register to process? 

Really? 

As I understand it, you check yes that you want to be registered, they notify voter registration, and voter registration registers you. 

 

It's the same if you check that you want to be an organ donor, they don't register you as an organ doner either, they notify the organ doner department, and they register you. 

 

 

 

 

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You have now written exactly what I wrote yet  its the same thing you have been arguing against. You just proved my point. Stop with your nonsense comments 

[radiochaser]

  On 11/5/2024 at 3:50 AM, Will B Good said:

 

 

1. Voter Registration Forms: Federal law requires that voter registration forms explicitly ask applicants to confirm their U.S. citizenship under penalty of perjury. This self-attestation is significant because falsely claiming citizenship on these forms is a federal crime that carries penalties, including fines and possible deportation for noncitizens.

2. Database Verification: Many states cross-check voter information against databases, like the Social Security Administration and DMV records, to verify identity. Additionally, some states use the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) database to confirm citizenship status before finalizing registration.

3. Motor Voter Law Protections: The National Voter Registration Act mandates that public assistance and DMV offices provide voter registration options, but only for citizens. The process includes clear reminders and requires that only those eligible register to vote, with oversight by state election authorities to catch errors or cases of ineligible registration attempts.

4. State-Level Protections: States like Georgia and South Carolina have conducted audits to identify any noncitizens attempting to register. Findings indicate that cases of noncitizens mistakenly attempting to register are extremely rare and often stem from unintentional errors rather than attempts at fraud.

 

 

 

Sources Brennan Center, Houston Chronicle, Bipartisan Policy Center.

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That was a concern of mine.  Still the voter registrars office kept him on the voter roles.   Again, I was there when his drivers license was issued, after he took and passed the written test (actually on a computer).  When they asked my brother in law a question, I would translate into Thai for him.  I also translated for my sister in law.    Fortunately, for me, they did not ask any complicated questions beyond my limited Thai language skills.   My sister in law was not registered to vote back then. 

Both are now eligible to vote, if they wish to, both now, being Naturalized U.S. citizens. 

[Yellowtail]

  On 11/5/2024 at 3:58 AM, Dan O said:

You have now written exactly what I wrote yet  its the same thing you have been arguing against.

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I have not been arguing against you. 

  On 11/5/2024 at 3:58 AM, Dan O said:

 

You just proved my point.

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So your point, like mine, is that anyone that checks yes, that they want to be registered, gets registered, yes? 

  On 11/5/2024 at 3:58 AM, Dan O said:

Stop with your nonsense comments 

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You agree with my comments, yet you claim I'm making nonsense comments. You seem a bit hateful brother. 

[Will B Good]

  On 11/5/2024 at 4:06 AM, radiochaser said:

That was a concern of mine.  Still the voter registrars office kept him on the voter roles.   Again, I was there when his drivers license was issued, after he took and passed the written test (actually on a computer).  When they asked my brother in law a question, I would translate into Thai for him.  I also translated for my sister in law.    Fortunately, for me, they did not ask any complicated questions beyond my limited Thai language skills.   My sister in law was not registered to vote back then. 

Both are now eligible to vote, if they wish to, both now, being Naturalized U.S. citizens. 

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Do they have to wait five years to vote ? Or can they vote as soon as they gain naturalization?

[Yellowtail]

  On 11/5/2024 at 4:06 AM, radiochaser said:

That was a concern of mine.  Still the voter registrars office kept him on the voter roles.   Again, I was there when his drivers license was issued, after he took and passed the written test (actually on a computer).  When they asked my brother in law a question, I would translate into Thai for him.  I also translated for my sister in law.    Fortunately, for me, they did not ask any complicated questions beyond my limited Thai language skills.   My sister in law was not registered to vote back then. 

Both are now eligible to vote, if they wish to, both now, being Naturalized U.S. citizens. 

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And when Viginia tried to remove thousands of people that had checked "non-citizen" on the DMV form, the Biden-Harris Administration sued Virginia to try and keep them on the voter rolls. 

[radiochaser]

  On 11/5/2024 at 3:54 AM, Dan O said:

You are deflecting from your original comments. If you cant understand what you read i cant help you. Making a selection that you want to vote is not the same as registering. the registration office must do the registration in their data base. You claimed you were never asked at dmv and that bs. Stick to the fact you claimed and stop changing what happened

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When the picture for your ID or drivers license is taken, the lady/man that takes your picture, asks you, do you want to register to vote?   If you say yes, they ask which party, then they do whatever they do and print out your new ID/drivers license.   

 

The after a few days (I don't recall how many) the ID/drivers license applicant receives in the mail, a voter registration card, from >>> the voter registrars office <<<<< !! 

 

Again, have you ever, been to Pennsylvania, or any other state in the United States and applied for an ID/drivers license?  Yes?  No?  

 

 

[radiochaser]

  On 11/5/2024 at 4:09 AM, Will B Good said:

 

Do they have to wait five years to vote ? Or can they vote as soon as they gain naturalization?

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They are eligible to register to vote as soon as they are Naturalized. 

 

I am a little vague on this, but I think that my daughter was told she could register to vote right after she was sworn as a citizen, at what ever office we were at in Philadelphia Pennsylvania.   She was very pregnant and the woman in charge of the office decided that she would swear my daughter in as a citizen before the baby was born.  Daughter was sworn in with only the three of us in the room.   Not in the big room with the other 50 or so other people.   Granddaughter was born 5 days later, if I remember correctly.  That was 8 years, 8 months ago.  😀

 

It was my thinking that a person had to be in the U.S. of A. 5 years before they could apply for citizenship, but if memory serves me, I was told I was wrong about that.  

 

Granddaughter told me earlier today, she asked her mom, who are you voting for?   Mom said she wasn't telling her!  We all vote tomorrow on November 5.   

[Yellowtail]

  On 11/5/2024 at 4:09 AM, Will B Good said:

 

Do they have to wait five years to vote ? Or can they vote as soon as they gain naturalization?

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It depends on how old they are. If they are 13 when they become citizens, they have to wait five years to vote, except for class president and whatnot. 

[Will B Good]

  On 11/5/2024 at 4:29 AM, radiochaser said:

They are eligible to register to vote as soon as they are Naturalized. 

 

I am a little vague on this, but I think that my daughter was told she could register to vote right after she was sworn as a citizen, at what ever office we were at in Philadelphia Pennsylvania.   She was very pregnant and the woman in charge of the office decided that she would swear my daughter in as a citizen before the baby was born.  Daughter was sworn in with only the three of us in the room.   Not in the big room with the other 50 or so other people.   Granddaughter was born 5 days later, if I remember correctly.  That was 8 years, 8 months ago.  😀

 

It was my thinking that a person had to be in the U.S. of A. 5 years before they could apply for citizenship, but if memory serves me, I was told I was wrong about that.  

 

Granddaughter told me earlier today, she asked her mom, who are you voting for?   Mom said she wasn't telling her!  We all vote tomorrow on November 5.   

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Don't get it 'wrong'.....5555

[Dan O]

  On 11/5/2024 at 4:07 AM, Yellowtail said:

I have not been arguing against you. 

So your point, like mine, is that anyone that checks yes, that they want to be registered, gets registered, yes? 

You agree with my comments, yet you claim I'm making nonsense comments. You seem a bit hateful brother. 

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Nope you need to go back and read what you wrote. You changed your position and now state what I wrote with a change trying to gaslight. If you mark yes at the dmv  that you want to register but the dmv doesn't actually register you, the info goes to the voter registration office and they register you. 

[Yellowtail]

  On 11/5/2024 at 5:35 AM, Dan O said:

Nope you need to go back and read what you wrote. You changed your position and now state what I wrote with a change trying to gaslight. If you mark yes at the dmv  that you want to register but the dmv doesn't actually register you, the info goes to the voter registration office and they register you. 

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No. you are just lying about what I said. 

 

 

[Dan O]

  On 11/5/2024 at 4:18 AM, radiochaser said:

When the picture for your ID or drivers license is taken, the lady/man that takes your picture, asks you, do you want to register to vote?   If you say yes, they ask which party, then they do whatever they do and print out your new ID/drivers license.   

 

The after a few days (I don't recall how many) the ID/drivers license applicant receives in the mail, a voter registration card, from >>> the voter registrars office <<<<< !! 

 

Again, have you ever, been to Pennsylvania, or any other state in the United States and applied for an ID/drivers license?  Yes?  No?  

 

 

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Yes I've been all over the usa   stop with your bs. Go back and read your original claim and see how closely it matches what you now claim. As I have said multiple times the voter registration office registers you and send the card not the dmv

[Dan O]

  On 11/5/2024 at 5:41 AM, Yellowtail said:

No. you are just lying about what I said. 

 

 

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Nope  go back and read what you wrote 

[Yellowtail]

  On 11/5/2024 at 5:43 AM, Dan O said:

Nope  go back and read what you wrote 

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[Dan O]

  On 11/5/2024 at 5:49 AM, Yellowtail said:

 

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You only show I post.  Read the others before that

[Yellowtail]

  On 11/5/2024 at 5:51 AM, Dan O said:

You only show I post.  Read the others before that

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This one: 

[RetiredNavy71]

  On 11/4/2024 at 1:41 AM, RetiredNavy71 said:

Then show us

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Well where is it bitch?

[Dan O]

  On 11/5/2024 at 5:58 AM, Yellowtail said:

This one: 

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You posted a number so you can spend your time reading them as they are your posts. I already wasted too much time on your nonsense

[Yellowtail]

  On 11/5/2024 at 6:17 AM, Dan O said:

You posted a number so you can spend your time reading them as they are your posts. I already wasted too much time on your nonsense

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That's what I thought. Go with God brother! 

[BarraMarra]

  On 11/4/2024 at 10:46 PM, radiochaser said:

War can be hell.   One Radio Research unit I was with had an associated aviation company that would fly and make close range radio direction finding (ARDF) on North Vietnamese enemy radio transmitters.   When they had an accurate geo coordinate fix on the transmitter, a crew member would contact a group of B52 bombers circling overhead and pass the coordinates to them. 

 

The B52 crews were supposed to wait 5 minutes before dropping their bomb loads, to allow the ARDF aircraft to fly out of the area.   Several times they were right over the coordinate location and dropped bombs immediately after receiving the coordinates, nearly hitting the ARDF aircraft with 250 or 500 pound bombs!  Fortunately they missed.  

 

Not so lucky was one of our aircraft was shot out of the air in the vicinity of Quan Tri by a surface to air missile (SAM) during the Spring Offensive of 1972.  Sam missiles carried a 1000 pound war head.   Both during the war, shortly after the SAM hit, and years later after searches were made and they could not find any part of the aircraft.  Those were Beech King aircraft in the civilian field.  

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Whats this got to do with Fraud in the US elections ?

[TroubleandGrumpy]

  On 11/4/2024 at 11:00 AM, wwest5829 said:

You are gonna be sorely disappointed at the written history based on the documented facts. But you will not be alone by any means, The zdonald will lead the denunciation.

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Only a day or so to go, and as long as 100K+ ballot votes all 100% Kamala dont arrive at 3am in swing States (again), Trump will be POTUS and your pain will be over (or just beginning).

[Jingthing]

  On 11/5/2024 at 11:22 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Only a day or so to go, and as long as 100K+ ballot votes all 100% Kamala dont arrive at 3am in swing States (again), Trump will be POTUS and your pain will be over (or just beginning).

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Disgusting that you're still spreading the BIG LIE from the last election that has zero basis in truth. It's not really about facts, is it? 

[impulse]

Speaking of fraud, they tried to do it again...

 

“Early this morning we learned that Republican poll watchers in Philadelphia, York, Westmoreland, Allegheny, Lehigh, Cambria, Wyoming, and Lackawanna Counties were being turned away,” RNC Chair Michael Whatley posted on X.

 

“We deployed our roving attorneys, engaged with local officials, and can now report that all Republican poll watchers have been let into the building,” he wrote.

 

Kudos to the RNC for being ready this time...

 

https://www.westernjournal.com/republican-election-attorneys-score-early-morning-victory-pennsylvania-report/

 

https://www.rt.com/news/606985-trump-harris-election-live/  (14:23 GMT update)

 

[radiochaser]

  On 11/5/2024 at 5:42 AM, Dan O said:

Yes I've been all over the usa   stop with your bs. Go back and read your original claim and see how closely it matches what you now claim. As I have said multiple times the voter registration office registers you and send the card not the dmv

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Do you mean the DMV does not start the process as was allowed in the motor voter bill signed into law by President Bill Clinton on May 20, 1993?

[radiochaser]

  On 11/5/2024 at 8:21 AM, BarraMarra said:

Whats this got to do with Fraud in the US elections ?

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Wasn't I responding the to war is hell comment by another poster?   

[kwonitoy]

  On 11/5/2024 at 4:18 AM, radiochaser said:

When the picture for your ID or drivers license is taken, the lady/man that takes your picture, asks you, do you want to register to vote?   If you say yes, they ask which party, then they do whatever they do and print out your new ID/drivers license.   

 

The after a few days (I don't recall how many) the ID/drivers license applicant receives in the mail, a voter registration card, from >>> the voter registrars office <<<<< !! 

 

Again, have you ever, been to Pennsylvania, or any other state in the United States and applied for an ID/drivers license?  Yes?  No?  

 

 

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Each state would be different though.

As a Canadian working in the US I've had drivers licenses in Texas, Mississippi, and West Virginia and have never been asked if want to  register to vote. or organ donation for that matter.